Trump to win?

[Thailandnotes]

Re: Trump to win?

Speaking of nailing it...

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/...son-of-brexit/

[Thailandnotes]

Re: Trump to win?

Speaking of nailing it...

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/...son-of-brexit/

[vt]

Re: Trump to win?

No more Clinton or Bush

[gwynedd1]

Re: Trump to win?

But wait! The Democrats may have a Bench after all!

http://nypost.com/2016/11/10/chelsea...-for-congress/

Voting for a hereditary monarchy seems a little inefficient.

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump Appointments

It remains to be seen. I hate to be the person who seems to be the Trump apologist but it may be that the names being thrown about are the Joseph Kennedys of today: people who know where the bodies are buried and are useful in that regard. They must be kept on a tight leash.

I'm fairly certain Trump will make mistakes with certain appointments. I am hoping that when he makes a mistake, he is very quick to take corrective action: "You're fired," and appoint someone else.

Didn't Trump get rid of two campaign managers during this election? I cannot recall any other other presidential candidate in the past few decades having changed campaign managers even once.

Winner winner, chicken dinner! He's fired.

According to the WSJ, Chris Christie was removed as Trump campaign transition chairman on Friday, a position that will now be filled by Vice President-elect Mike Pence, the transition team confirmed. Christie will remain on the transition team’s executive committee as a vice chairman, along with Ben Carson, both largely figured positions; they will be also joined by retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Mr. Sessions.

The most drastic change on staff was the elevation of Rick Dearborn, the staff chief of Mr. Sessions’ Washington office, into the role of transition director. The move sidelined Rich Bagger, a top ally of Mr. Christie’s who held that role for the last several months. Mr. Bagger couldn’t be reached for comment.

Chris Christie Booted As Trump Transition Team Chairman

[vt]

Re: Trump to win?

But wait! The Democrats may have a Bench after all!

http://nypost.com/2016/11/10/chelsea...-for-congress/

[gwynedd1]

Re: Trump to win?

No, I don't think it's quite as grim as that. There are hundreds of Democrats in the House and Senate, thousands more in the state houses, tens and hundreds of thousands working the various agencies, and they dominate K street and the NGOs. Not dead yet.

We need to give this time to shake out and see what Trump will do. See what the Democrats will do in counter. Both parties need to go after and keep/win the voters who put Trump in the White House by promoting policies that help them directly and with immediacy. There are powerful and massively capitalized centrifugal forces that will move Heaven and Earth to keep Trump and the Democrats from doing precisely that, because it's their ass if they don't.

Its their relative strength that is the biggest threat to them. The Democrats were the stronger party. As they were dancing on the Republican grave , they forgot about the dangers of a power vacuum.
Trump easily drove out the neocons and old guard wack job social conservatives, and swept in labor. Old guard capitalists in the Republican party certainly prefers them over financial feudalism.
So floor managers opened the doors to welcome their old rivals against the financial class. Now the social conservatives are boxed in with nowhere to go(Utah is your bellwether).
Fawning all over Islam gives them no choice. This allowed segments of social progressives into the Trump rebellion, lead by the likes of Milo.

So the Democrats may in fact be too viable for their own good. They are not weak enough to collapse and be reformed, and may not be strong enough to win.
The other weakness of the Democrats is their racism and bigotry against whites and against each other. They will not turn out for a white liberal, and blacks will not turn out for a Latino.
White bigotry is far more suppressed. A black person, a Latino, or a woman will not be punished nearly as much if they have the right ideology . Republicans can field women and Latinos.
Meanwhile Democrats are trying to have LGBT and radical Islam under the same tend.

That's what the Republicans were for so long, strong enough to lose , and too strong to change. It was like holding on to an over the hill superstar instead of developing young talent.

[Milton Kuo]

Re: Trump to win?

i just hope, for your sake GRG - that your town doesnt get overrun by the 'wave of refugees' that
are apparently going to be fleeing the US - like any day now, eh?

GRG55 and our friends up north probably don't have to worry too much. I don't think the U.S.A. is that lucky.

[lektrode]

Re: Trump to win?

This nails it, IMO.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/10/trump...ommentary.html

Seizing on the loosening of regulations and laws that previously kept corporate money and excessive special interest money out of elections, the Democratic Party began catering to Wall Street, big oil, big pharmaceutical companies, and the "professional class."

yep = just exactly what thomas frank says in my post above

[LazyBoy]

Re: Trump to win?

This nails it, IMO.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/10/trump...ommentary.html

Trump's victory over Clinton was sealed 40 years ago

...
Democratic leaders—including emerging ones like a young, charismatic Arkansas laywer named Bill Clinton—saw a fork in the road, and the path to victory was in abandoning working people.
Sure, in later years, Bill and new wife, Hillary Clinton, would talk the populist talk as they began their climb to power in Arkansas politics on the road to the White House.

But as Ronald Reagan assumed power and began America's shift to a country based on social Darwinism and "I'm gonna get mine," the Democratic Party, now led by the neoliberal, Clinton-backed Democratic Leadership Council, sat to the side—complicit.

Seizing on the loosening of regulations and laws that previously kept corporate money and excessive special interest money out of elections, the Democratic Party began catering to Wall Street, big oil, big pharmaceutical companies, and the "professional class."

[jk]

Re: Trump to win?

democrats are hoping that ruth bader-ginsburg [83yo] and stephen breyer [78yo] live to 100, and they even have good wishes for anthony kennedy.

[lektrode]

Re: Trump to win?

If the Dems get pushed to the far left by Warren et al the vacuum in the center of the spectrum will give rising Republican talent like Rubio all the room they need to institutionalize the results of this election for a generation. That's the real danger facing the Dems...years in the wilderness.

yeah and altho it's more than a bit disappointing, my respect for warren went right into the dumper
the day she fell into it 'with her'

which proves conclusively how she's just another demorat bloviator who 'stands for nothing, falls for anything' including being OK with all the documented and nefarious to just flatout criminal activities...

it's quite a bunch that the clintonistas have 'inspired' aint it?

Anti-Trump Protests Continue Across The US Overnight: Burn American Flags, Smash Windows

• 131,700
• Nov 10, 2016 12:28 PM

but, but, but....
guess there's not enough 'safe spaces' to keep them... uhhh... contained?

Oakland Mayor Explains Why Local Police Can't Stop Looting Rioters

"I want to explain why it seems our police department cannot stop them. The police who are responsible for the safety of the crowds and our community during these protests are very often the target themselves. When they step in to stop an act of vandalism while it is happening, they become the new focal point for the crowds which can lead to an escalation of violence, not a decrease in the vandalism."

• 67,869
• Nov 10, 2016 3:30 PM

and over there in that ohhhh soooo 'progressive and tolerant' capitol of the PNW,
they're just 'voicing their frustrations' (but NOT over bernie getting f'kd-over?)

Stun Grenades, Rubber Bullets Deployed In Portland After Anti-Trump Protest Devolves Into "Riot"

• Nov 11, 2016 8:01 AM

particularly in the bluestate areas where dead people were voting and voting often/multiple times at that:

Trump Voter Beaten By Black Mob: "You Voted Trump. You Gonna Pay For That Sh*t"

“You voted Trump,” the mob screams, “You gonna pay for that sh*t.”Another woman shouts “beat his ass,” while another man is heard laughing before remarking, “Don’t vote Trump.”

• Nov 10, 2016 9:50 PM

not that you'll ever see anything like that on theCNN (clinton news network)

and hey...
NOW look who's NOT accepting the results:

Over 2 Million Hillary Supporters Sign Petition To Overturn Election Results

Having called the now president-elect's response "horrifying," accusing him of "talking down our democracy," it turns out that Clinton’s supporters are the ones who are refusing to accept the election results as they were announced in the early morning of Nov. 9.

• Nov 11, 2016 8:14 AM

yes, its just soooo inspiring, all of this open mindedness and tolerance for viewpoints they dont agree with.

and look who's 'delivering' the retribution (none other than 'the new economy' king pins)

Grubhub CEO Faces Backlash After Telling Trump-Supporting Employees "You Have No Place Here"

Many faux-liberal tech firm CEOs have responded to the election of Donald Trump in the same "stunned" memos to staff reassuring them "our firm is a safe space" with some even promising to fund a so-called CaliExit secession from the Union. However, as Fox News reports, GrubHub CEO Matt Maloney has - to some who have begun to boycott the food-delivery app - gone too far by implying in a company-wide email that Trump-supporting staff are not welcome and should resign.

• Nov 10, 2016 9:25 PM

it's a good thing that hill&co's, along with all their fans - have 'taken the high road'
and encouraging level headed civility within themselves and their loyal minions....
an all that:

Caught On Tape: Devastated Democrats Freaking Out Over Trump Victory

"This has to be a joke. I can not believe this is happening. I'm literally about to ******* kill myself and I'm not kidding. You better ******* fix this shit right now. I'm literally going to die. I need an ambulance."

• 95,687
• Nov 10, 2016 5:00 PM

with some inspiring and 'progressive' advice for a more 'hopeful future'

"Democrats Failed Us Miserably" Michael Moore Unleashes Post-Election "To-Do" List

Having nailed the results (and reasons) for Trump's election victory when all the liberal intelligentsia had their head in the sand, filmmaker Michael Moore exclaims that "Democrats failed us miserably" and lays out his 'morning-after to-do list' for the country.

• 140,600
• Nov 10, 2016 3:31 PM

i just hope, for your sake GRG - that your town doesnt get overrun by the 'wave of refugees' that
are apparently going to be fleeing the US - like any day now, eh?

Celebrities Urge Fans To "Fight Trump", Say They Were Only Joking About Leaving The US

• 51,171
• Nov 10, 2016 11:40 AM

[jk]

Re: Trump to win?

If the Dems get pushed to the far left by Warren et al the vacuum in the center of the spectrum will give rising Republican talent like Rubio all the room they need to institutionalize the results of this election for a generation. That's the real danger facing the Dems...years in the wilderness.

i worry that eliz warren, as much as i like her, could become the american jeremy corbyn. the dems don't have a bench.

[Milton Kuo]

Re: Trump Appointments

what a shocker! (not). I can't wait to see how wall street manages to solidify their control in ways they've only dreamed of under Trumps administration.

It remains to be seen. I hate to be the person who seems to be the Trump apologist but it may be that the names being thrown about are the Joseph Kennedys of today: people who know where the bodies are buried and are useful in that regard. They must be kept on a tight leash.

I'm fairly certain Trump will make mistakes with certain appointments. I am hoping that when he makes a mistake, he is very quick to take corrective action: "You're fired," and appoint someone else.

Didn't Trump get rid of two campaign managers during this election? I cannot recall any other other presidential candidate in the past few decades having changed campaign managers even once.

[verdo]

Re: Trump Appointments

I'm starting to get a bad deja-vu. According to Zerocred, Trump is considering his financial advisor, Mnuchin, a 17-year-veteran of Goldman Sachs for Treasury Secretary: "[Mnuchin] ... who now works as the chairman and chief executive of the private investment firm Dune Capital Management. Mnuchin has also worked for OneWest Bank, which was later sold to CIT Group in 2015."

This, IMO is akin to Obama naming Geithner to Treasury.

what a shocker! (not). I can't wait to see how wall street manages to solidify their control in ways they've only dreamed of under Trumps administration.