Trump to win?

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

"Um…sure ... white nationalist Steve Bannon, the guy who runs Breitbart.com...sick ... death ... dead ... Fuck ... dead ... racist, misogynist, anti-Semite, white nationalist ... KKK ... old white guy... white people with little education and by older white men ... old white guy ... undereducated white guys, (“I love the poorly educated”), and old, white, guys ... Jim Crow."

And so it goes.

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

Um…sure. This is why his campaign CEO is the white nationalist Steve Bannon, the guy who runs Breitbart.com...

I know the cognitive dissonance of having a Donald Trump (Donald Friggin' Trump!) fight the "smartest person in the world" to a draw must be excruciating to suffer. That on top of the fact that he's doing it against the headwind of the combined resources of the DNC machine (and even his own party), the news and entertainment media, and seemingly the whole of the establishment nomeklatura, well that must be so maddening and infuriating. I mean, it's Donald Trump? WTF? This was not supposed to happen!

Being human, I too might resort to palliative fantasies as you and others have adopted. Although I'm sure I would have picked something a bit more convincing than calling him a Klansman and Putin's favorite spy.

Does the irony of the Democratic Party - whose primary cheating and round-the-clock collusion with so-called objective parties was writ large the entire season by Wikileaks - register here at all among the Clintonistas? And the WaPo article complaining about "total war" against a candidate (written by a Democrat on the David Brock/DNC payroll, no less), now that's some chutzpah!

Pull the other one, fellas. You've hit the comedy motherlode!

[bpr]

Re: Trump to win?

Imagine if a group of FBI agents were leaking damaging information on Donald Trump in violation of longstanding departmental policy, and it turned out that they were basing their innuendo on a book published by the Center for American Progress, which Clinton campaign chair John Podesta founded and used to run. Republicans would be crying bloody murder, and I’m pretty sure the entire news media would be backing them up every step of the way.

And please, spare me any explanations for this phenomenon that rely on how “divided” Americans are. Are we divided? Sure. But there’s only one party that is so vigorously undermining core democratic institutions in this way. You may not like what Democrats stand for, but they aren’t engaging in widespread official vote suppression, chanting that should their candidate win her opponent should be tossed in jail, promising to prevent any Republican president from filling vacancies on the Supreme Court, suggesting that they’ll try to impeach their opponent as soon as he takes office, cheering when a hostile foreign power hacks into American electronic systems, and trying to use the FBI to win the election.Only one party is doing all of that. And we should all be very worried about what Republicans will do after November 8, whether they win or lose.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ld-be-immense/

[bpr]

Re: Trump to win?

Voters are being purged in record numbers in North Carolina. I'm sure it's just chance but almost all of them are black Dems.

Not just NC:

https://www.thenation.com/article/go...voting-rights/

[santafe2]

Re: Trump to win?

Voters are being purged in record numbers in North Carolina. I'm sure it's just chance but almost all of them are black Dems.

"At an emergency hearing Wednesday in Winston-Salem, a federal judge called the state's process for challenging voter registrations "insane" and "something that was put together in 1901," according to the Associated Press."

The Feds will be in North Carolina observing precincts. George Wallace rises, as I said, hopefully for the last time.

http://www.fayobserver.com/news/elec...3db6e8ce5.html

The above is one of many stories covering this issue.

[santafe2]

Re: Trump to win?

That's not his core message and never was.

Um…sure. This is why his campaign CEO is the white nationalist Steve Bannon, the guy who runs Breitbart.com.

Before there was Bannon, there was the sick but talented, Breitbart himself who Matt Taibbi addressed upon his untimely but much appreciated death: “So Andrew Breitbart is dead. Here’s what I have to say to that, and I’m sure Breitbart himself would have respected this reaction: Good! Fuck him. I couldn’t be happier that he’s dead.”

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...ouche-20120301

Bannon isn’t as talented a douche as Breitbart, but he’s just as big a racist, misogynist, anti-Semite, white nationalist. Trump could hire the entire KKK, (who’ve endorsed him by the way), and you’d still have your old white guy sun shades on.

Enjoy the stories you tell yourself. There is a new generation taking over this country and while you may not like it, women also do have the vote. I’m with them. Clearly, you are not. Your position is massively supported by white people with little education and by older white men. That is your demographic. Your argument may sound strong here in the old white guy echo chamber but when we break down voting by demographic groups it’s clear there are only two groups massively backing Trump; undereducated white guys, (“I love the poorly educated”), and old, white, guys.

This election is, I hope, the last horrible gasp of Jim Crow.

[santafe2]

Re: Trump to win?

the 3 disparate wings of the democratic party
Hillary Clinton’s Juggling Act

This article didn't seem thoughtful or well organized jk. The author begins by grouping Dems in 3 areas, globalists, (Rockefeller Republicans), "underdog" minority wing, (that's almost as bad as Trump making black folk and inner city synonymous), and organized labor. That might be half of her support. I'm sure she has other constituencies but somehow he missed Millennials until he found time to characterize them as "idealistic" and "anti-business". I know a lot of Millennial Bernie supporters and I would characterize most of them as very realistic and none of them as anti-business. They're just tired of this trickle up nonsense. While Bernie was only my safety vote if he beat HRC, I can't be critical of young people who think Bernie could have turned the corner on this long term trend.

Millennials are a huge voting block for HRC. Only one state, West Virginia, is solidly in the Trump camp with 54% of WV Millennials indicating they will vote for Trump. He has a 29% advantage there. No surprise, HRC has been very open about shutting down coal. He's also winning the Millennial vote in 8 other states but only by an average margin of 5.6%. He doesn't have 50% support in any of those states. Clinton on the other hand is winning the Millennial vote in 40 states, (there's a tie in one state). Her average margin of victory is 24%. The great majority of young people in the US hate Trump. He stands for everything they are against.

If Millennials turn out to vote, the angry old white guys will lose. If they don't turn out, they may wish they had.

[jk]

Re: Trump to win?

the 3 disparate wings of the democratic party
Hillary Clinton’s Juggling Act

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

How about a full pardon contingent on public service as a Foreign Service officer?

If it turns out she loses, Obummer will give her one contingent that the poor girl has suffered enough. Podesta, et. al. not so much.

[gwynedd1]

Re: Trump to win?

We need an independent prosecutor with staff and a budget to get through this mess. As always, the Clintons taint everything they touch and we've seen that DOJ can't seem to play this one straight. Whoever wins, it starts in Congress in the next session.

How about a full pardon contingent on public service as a Foreign Service officer?

[gwynedd1]

Re: Trump to win?

Maybe we can get back to real issues. Like the collusion of the DOJ with the Clinton campaign:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-1...-heads-podesta

Using the Department of State as a conduit to bribing foreign governments to enrich the Clinton family smells of racketeering.

Surely , however its seems to me that what remains in the Clinton camp can only be one determined to vote for her purely for the stated(public) political position. They don't care how they get their fried chicken.
The only thing that would move the electorate much more away from her is something emotional and easy to understand like killing puppies. That would tend to even things out because they know Trump, deep in his heart , hates puppies. We all thought he was just some real estate investor with bling even last year . Turns out he is a host inhabited by Satin and Hitler.


Take another shot of course , we might still yet flip the vote of a few moral philosophers.

[vt]

Re: Trump to win?

Maybe we can get back to real issues. Like the collusion of the DOJ with the Clinton campaign:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-1...-heads-podesta

Using the Department of State as a conduit to bribing foreign governments to enrich the Clinton family smells of racketeering.

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

The Clinton Foundation is the key issue here.

"the manner in which the State Department was put in the service of the Foundation during Hillary Clinton’s tenure as secretary is shocking. It is suggestive of a pattern of pay-to-play bribery, the monetizing of political influence, fraud, and obstruction of justice that the Justice Department should be investigating as a possible RICO conspiracy under the federal anti-racketeering laws."

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ch-obstruction

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/clinton-foundation-scandal-a-justice-dept-cover-up-exposed/

We need an independent prosecutor with staff and a budget to get through this mess. As always, the Clintons taint everything they touch and we've seen that DOJ can't seem to play this one straight. Whoever wins, it starts in Congress in the next session.

[gwynedd1]

Re: Trump to win?

This is total "race card" BS and you know it. How is Trump supposed to disavow every idiot ad out there. Has Hillary disavowed the Democrat ops guys that tried to formet violence at Trump rallies.

You are now being a racist yourself for using the race card on a tiny, tiny group of people who may be that way.

In fact Trump is reaching out to blacks and making gains:

http://nypost.com/2016/09/18/black-v...p-in-new-poll/

Trump is also reaching out to Hispanics:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...nap-story.html

I don't support Trump or Clinton but your continued attempts to inject the race card are disgusting.

There are more white nationalists every year . I think I even became one recently ever since they redefined it as not having intense self loathing and guilt. If you don't think Europeans and their culture are the cause of every ill on earth, you are probably a white nationalist.

I have a lot in common with white nationalists. I drink tap water just like they do. I like to encourage local agriculture because I believe in food security and self determination. I think societies work better when they can agree on certain modalities without having to codify it . I think it is important to maintain independence from foreign domination. I don't mind the Amish, who seem to have a nation of sorts and they seem white. I kinda liked Finland as well, but hey why not make room for more , after all there are lots of Finns , like 5 million of them. Who cares about some Finno-Uralic back water culture when it could be another piece of North Africa.

Thing is I also remember being on Great Exuma as some might recall . Looked like a bunch of black people to me. I got to thinking that last thing I would want to see was anyone else moving in, en mass, changing their way of life , up turning the apple cart. Guess I might be a black nationalist as well, huh.

Remove the vast central power of the Federal state, most of this crap goes away. People will be with whom they want. They will marry whom they want. People who want to be with "their own , will. People who want to be multicultural will as well.
People don't care about Italian Irish miscegenation because it happened so slowly and organically ,no one gave a crap. When a race of people over 5 generations change, no one knows or cares. When a central state pits Western Ukrainians against Eastern Ukrainians, people seem to end up dead.

Do people realize that if everyone got along so well there would be no culture? I like a little racism. I like it that there might be a core group of people to tell carpet baggers to go away. I have no problem if some people don't want my kind around, especially if its going to be a strip mall with a Dairy Queen and a Currency Exchange with a the cookie cutter brick facade . It the racists that preserve the cultures. They are the reason we can have multiculturalism at all. I am happy to see multicultural international cities , just as I am grateful that the stand offish hinterlands provide the feed stock for all this cultural diversity.

What a wonderful tool of central government that can destroy all local organized resistance , painting them up as racists. What a great way to end up with globalist monoculture.

Or you could Try Mama's bakery on Great Exuma . You won't find a Dunkin nothin. Maybe they just haven't let in enough Pakistanis.

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

Win or lose, this is one of the "alt-right", white nationalist racist groups piggy-backing on the Trump "phenomenon". As the ad says, this is only the beginning.

While not all individuals supporting Trump are avowed racists, this has been one of Trump's core messages. There is a reason they can use only his words...

That's not his core message and never was. The Donald's first of its kind presidential announcement laid out the message - make a America great again by renegotiating bad trade deal, ending illegal immigration, recognition of the failure in Iraq and a focus against ISIS, return of jobs and the improvement of the economy, ending Obamacare, reforming lobbying and ending influence peddling and corruption, the general failure of the political class, his awesome Trump leadership, moneyed independence and general bad-assness, his support for the Second Amendment, for ending common core, for rebuilding infrastructure, and for preserving Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. If you can stand the stream of consciousness prose, read for yourself. I've been posting speeches and he's covered all of those themes consistently. Anyone who wants can see for themselves what Trump's message is.

This fixation on an invisible and amorphous phantasm called alt right is a smear intended to shut down debate and redirect people's attention. Now that I've thought about it, it's so clever that it has a whiff of COINTELPRO to it, especially where the campuses and social media are involved. And whatever the case, it's not working.