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    Master Shake;163326]By Tom Hoffman

    John Wayne epitomized the rugged individual who was committed to fighting "the bad guy," but he was only one of a whole host of competing figures cut out of the same cloth. What happened?
    An aside on the Great Man:

    I had the pleasure of serving in the US Army in 1957-58 - pleasure because it was between wars and served as a transition for me into adult maleness. At that time, many of our lifers were veterans of WW2 and Korea who had remained in the service as a career move. Many sergeants first class had been brevet captains, majors and, in at least one case, a lieutenant colonel commanding a regiment in Europe, the entire command staff of that unit having been killed or severely wounded.

    These worthies uniformly looked upon Wayne as a draft-dodging, wife-beating phony and made sure the recruits heard that opinion. Consequently, calling a fellow serviceman "John Wayne" constituted an insult more deadly than any of the colorful scatological military vocabulary commonly in use.

    Charles A. Leach

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    • #77
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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckjuux3UE7E

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        John Wayne was a man and an actor, nothing more. With flaws like all of us. But calling him a draft dodger ignores the fact he was 34 and had a family at the time of Pearl Harbor, and was in the middle of a lucrative career. I'm sure all of you would give that up in a heartbeat. He probably did more good for the country acting anyway. He did everything legal to avoid going to war. Perhaps that makes him a hypocrite? But some people confuse Hollywood with reality. He played a gung ho soldier. He didn't claim to be one. I know and have interviewed a lot of WWII veterans. When I ask them if they volunteered, most say, "Hell no, I was drafted". And even then they put it off as long as possible. Many would tell me, "I'm glad I served and wouldnt trade the experience for anything, but I also wouldn't want to ever go through it again." As for the wife beating part I don't know, but one of his wives supposedly took a shot at him.

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