Trump to win?

[jk]

Re: Trump to win?

even if a 3rd party got 40% of the vote i would be skeptical of its electoral college success. to win, a candidate must win STATES.

[touchring]

Re: Trump to win?

Very much agreed it's the longest of longshots. But who would have predicted a year ago Trump would win the Republican nomination or that Sanders would almost upset Clinton for the Democrat nomination.

We have three months to go before the election and we may still see some unusual things happen.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN10G2BQ

There's a lot of illegal things done for this American presidential election, I won't be surprised that unusual things will happen. The US is not the UK.

The American Kleptocracy seems hell bent on pushing up Clinton for some reason, like their very lives depend on it.

Trump is not the ideal choice for the Republicans, given his attitude towards minorities, but Clinton is worst, don't the Democrats have got a better candidate than Clinton? Is it because she is easier to control?

[vt]

Re: Trump to win?

Very much agreed it's the longest of longshots. But who would have predicted a year ago Trump would win the Republican nomination or that Sanders would almost upset Clinton for the Democrat nomination.

We have three months to go before the election and we may still see some unusual things happen.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN10G2BQ

[touchring]

Re: Trump to win?

Americans need to get the Libertarians to poll above 15% before the debates start in order to get them into the debates. It's a long shot but possible.

The only way to do this is to have it go viral by peer to peer discussion, then have the media pick it up and show the potential. The media also has to stress that a third party can win the election with as little as 35% of the vote and not 50%. Clinton only got 42% in 1992.

I don't really know about the third party but I think getting the third party to win is 10 times harder than to make North Korea a democracy. Why would any kleptocracy back a third party that doesn't work for them?

Without money, influence, how will a third party win? Trump with all his billions and Hollywood fame /infamy can't dislodge the system, there's no way a third party can win.

[vt]

Re: Trump to win?

Americans need to get the Libertarians to poll above 15% before the debates start in order to get them into the debates. It's a long shot but possible.

The only way to do this is to have it go viral by peer to peer discussion, then have the media pick it up and show the potential. The media also has to stress that a third party can win the election with as little as 35% of the vote and not 50%. Clinton only got 42% in 1992.

[shiny!]

Re: Trump to win?

Clinton Cash documentary based on the book of the same name. It's excellent IMO. Fair warning on propaganda techniques in use: There's some heavy-handed visual imagery and music in the beginning, a transparent attempt to create emotional thinking. It almost made me stop watching. Mostly I just listened while playing mahjongg:

I'd like to encourage everyone who is so disgusted with Trump and Clinton that they're thinking of staying home on election day to instead vote the Libertarian ticket. You don't have to agree with the Libertarian platform 100%. A large third-party showing this election will help put a dent in the corrupt two-party system.

[LazyBoy]

Re: Trump to win?

Harvard Republican Club won't back Trump.

https://www.facebook.com/HarvardGOP/...90758900944693

[touchring]

Re: Trump to win?

Only one sentence,

"Americans overestimate themselves".

[vt]

Re: Trump to win?

jeeeeeze, vt - what?

its same as it ever was.

STILL NOBODY GOES TO JAIL ???

and the crimewave/syndicate known as 'the clinton foundation' rolls on....

Of course it's the same. Large campaign contributions (bribes) are get out of jail currency!

[lektrode]

Re: Trump to win?

First bankers were dying, now Sander's supporters? What the devil is going on?

jeeeeeze, vt - what?

its same as it ever was.

tween her (and their thugs) and the dept of juicetess, the end game is squarely in their target zone.

Goldman Sachs Fined $36 Million by Fed Over Leaked Documents


'fined?' (!!!!!!!!!! WTF, over????? like its a 'speeding ticket' or something...)

and yet,
STILL NOBODY GOES TO JAIL ???

and the crimewave/syndicate known as 'the clinton foundation' rolls on....

[vt]

Re: Trump to win?

First bankers were dying, now Sander's supporters? What the devil is going on?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...ng-dnc-papers/

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

Agree to agreeably disagree but can't promote HRC to all one of her prospective fans on iTulip Woody, summers are short here so we're off to camp in the mountains. Mountains here are like ocean in the Sunshine State, they're pretty much everywhere you look and not to be missed.

Oh, tell me about it. I was Albuquerque and Santa Fe a few weeks back and fell in love with the place. Even took the tourist tram up Sandia Peak.

Of course the altitude kicked my butt and for the entire weekend I had about 1/3 less get up and go than is usual for me. Otherwise a fine time. Looking forward to coming back and visiting Taos soon.

[santafe2]

Re: Trump to win?

Then we disagree. So let's do it agreeably, shall we?

Funny you mention. We go out again Friday. No news, no internet, nothing but sea and sun. And man, I need it. You have all weekend to turn all the Tulipers into raving Hillary fans, SF. Better get at it!

Agree to agreeably disagree but can't promote HRC to all one of her prospective fans on iTulip Woody, summers are short here so we're off to camp in the mountains. Mountains here are like ocean in the Sunshine State, they're pretty much everywhere you look and not to be missed.

[LazyBoy]

Re: Trump to win?

Sure you can; just vote for the Green party or write in Bernie Sanders. You'll never see a pure left or pure right candidate on either major party ticket. 70% or more of the public will never vote left or right. That's why candidates try to move to the center to win the independents.

You can, Jill Stein is a fine candidate.

True enough. I should've said I wish the Democratic candidate was left of center rather than someone that might move left if millions protest for years.

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

Then we disagree. So let's do it agreeably, shall we?

Funny you mention. We go out again Friday. No news, no internet, nothing but sea and sun. And man, I need it. You have all weekend to turn all the Tulipers into raving Hillary fans, SF. Better get at it!