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  • #61
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    They didn't have Nukes & IBCM's in 1939..........

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    • #62
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      I think we face a real problems:-

      Israel wants Greater Israel, to do that she requires Iran/Syria out of the game.........she also knows that the US is broke & before long will loose its power. She MUST get the US to act NOW!

      The US/West is in Deep sh1t, unlikey the Cuban missle stand off (Where both sides had nothing to gain/lose) if she fails here its down hill fast.

      The British are in Deep trouble........they only have 2 sources of income, the City of London (Fruad) which is collasping & Northsea Oil/Gas production.........which is collasping.........

      Europe is in deep trouble, all except Germany are going to be forced to live with in their means....the riots will get worse & worse..

      Suddenly, pushing a button might be an easy way out.........

      Mike

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      • #63
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        Originally posted by Mega View Post
        I think we face a real problems:-

        Mike
        I know you are real down on the UK, but it still has a lot of positives outside of oil and FIRE. It didn't become the power (and subsequently wax and wane constantly) it has because it had no prospects. Will the UK be able to go on? Most definitely, but it will be much harder than it otherwise should have been. It is such a shame that the generations of people that led us down this path did not invest in the future of their children. At least a lot of them will still be around to feel the pain of what they wrought.

        I just don't see how pushing a button ever becomes an attractive option. The USSR didn't go out obliterating the world when it fell.

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        • #64
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          Originally posted by astonas View Post

          Please PM me if you feel you might benefit from information about resources that are available.
          I am sorry, man. I have severe depressive tendencies that can really be inflamed at times. Other times, I am much more hopeful and can-do. Thanks for your kind words and offers.

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          • #65
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            Originally posted by Mega View Post
            I think we face a real problems:-

            Israel wants Greater Israel, to do that she requires Iran/Syria out of the game.........she also knows that the US is broke & before long will loose its power. She MUST get the US to act NOW!

            The US/West is in Deep sh1t, unlikey the Cuban missle stand off (Where both sides had nothing to gain/lose) if she fails here its down hill fast.

            The British are in Deep trouble........they only have 2 sources of income, the City of London (Fruad) which is collasping & Northsea Oil/Gas production.........which is collasping.........

            Europe is in deep trouble, all except Germany are going to be forced to live with in their means....the riots will get worse & worse..

            Suddenly, pushing a button might be an easy way out.........

            Mike
            Your dreaming if you think that, UK is building two expensive aircraft carriers to defend its maritime interests around the globe Argentina might get a share of the natural resources in the Falklands if they behave themselves.
            Its creative industries are second only to Americas and are big exporters.
            The biggest spending in the West is social security which will get cut by inflation and or broken promises.

            Europeans are used to struggling, a thousand years of history and two world wars indicate that the problems we face to day are not insurmountable.

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            • #66
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              The Carries, ah yes let me laugh a mo.............
              The funny thing is they gone with F35 V takeoff version...........the sad thing is the US might very well decied NOT to build that version............leave the limeys in deep sh1t.
              Mike

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              • #67
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                Victor Frankel observed that concentration camp prisoners were more likely to survive if they had a cause larger than themselves---family, God, or some "higher purpose". He quoted the protestant maxim of "justification by faith".

                However, I think beliefs should be grounded in information and reason, not obedience to tradition.

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                • #68
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                  I remember growing up in the sixties and seventies. If we go back to that economic level things will actually improve. People might hang out outside because they can't afford to run the AC, pay for cable, and drive to the mall to shop. Then they might talk to other people in the neighborhood, instead of being made to think their life sucks because their big houses aren't filled with cheap crap.

                  Since we have had multiple, multi day power shortages this summer, I have made some new friends in the neighborhood, and gotten caught up with some old ones.
                  I bought a small generator, led lanterns to make life a little more comfortable when the next one hits. A Chain saw is next on the list. The last storm I had to
                  do all the tree removal with a bow saw. My tools and labor are always available for the neighbors to use.

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                  • #69
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                    Originally posted by charliebrown View Post
                    I remember growing up in the sixties and seventies. If we go back to that economic level things will actually improve. People might hang out outside because they can't afford to run the AC, pay for cable, and drive to the mall to shop. Then they might talk to other people in the neighborhood, instead of being made to think their life sucks because their big houses aren't filled with cheap crap.
                    I definitely want to see the overwhelmingly, ridiculous levels of consumption in the USA drop. I'll probably still spend as much time on the Internet as I do now, though. My redneck neighbors do not interest me much. :P

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                    • #70
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                      I see some of that in Greece right now. People are much more social and helpful, at least where I live.

                      People that have some farmable land are putting it to use. Which is kind of ironic because at the height of the bubble, massive farm subsidies were squandered on BMWs, villas, etc... while the farms were hardly worked. Now people are actually using their own money to grow food. Everywhere I look people are exchanging things. Just last winter, I would give family members wood for their fireplaces, and lemons and oranges from our trees. They in turn often invited me over to dinner. I see this a lot - the exchange of foods and services which strengthens the community.

                      Less people show off now. Actually, to show off an expensive car or clothes now has the opposite effect. It is seen as crude, antisocial behavior.

                      However, crime is up big time. And this is for a country that usually has the lowest crime rates in the western world. Burglaries are frequent in my town - luckily I have a tough Missouri-born Chesapeake Bay Retriever with me that I brought from the US. Thankfully, the recent increase in burglaries does not involve violence.

                      From what I hear in Athens, suicides are skyrocketing. And again, Greece has traditionally rated very low in suicide rates. I guess it's all relative. Talking to my father about his childhood during WWII, when the Germans were committing atrocities, you didn't hear too much about suicides then. People were in survival mode during WWII. But now, people lose their life savings, their jobs etc, and their world looks like it is crashing down around them. It's all perspective, and unfortunately, our priorities are so out of whack, life has gotten so hypercomplex, that the definition of "personal crisis" has changed into something that was nothing to be that concerned about 70 years ago. Back then, during WWII in Greece, people were lucky and thankful, just to be alive and have a loaf of bread for the day. (Not too many mortgages and no property taxes back then - so the house was always safe from being taken for nonpayment of debt or taxes)

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                      • #71
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                        Originally posted by charliebrown View Post
                        I remember growing up in the sixties and seventies. If we go back to that economic level things will actually improve. People might hang out outside because they can't afford to run the AC, pay for cable, and drive to the mall to shop. Then they might talk to other people in the neighborhood, instead of being made to think their life sucks because their big houses aren't filled with cheap crap.

                        Since we have had multiple, multi day power shortages this summer, I have made some new friends in the neighborhood, and gotten caught up with some old ones.
                        I bought a small generator, led lanterns to make life a little more comfortable when the next one hits. A Chain saw is next on the list. The last storm I had to
                        do all the tree removal with a bow saw. My tools and labor are always available for the neighbors to use.
                        Yeah, it's one of the best things of a big snow storm that shuts down the electricity. Everyone's out on the streets, shoveling off the sidewalks, sledding down the streets, kids helping out the old folks. It's an immediate injection of communitarianism into the neighborhood.

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                        • #72
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                          Originally posted by EJ View Post
                          This isn't about buying food or hoarding water. The required preparation is emotional and spiritual.

                          It can be summed up in a word: courage.
                          EJ - could you expand on how you, personally, have prepared for what you see coming?

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                          • #73
                            Poorer and happier?

                            Originally posted by charliebrown View Post
                            I remember growing up in the sixties and seventies. If we go back to that economic level things will actually improve. People might hang out outside My tools and labor are always available for the neighbors to use.
                            I think a higher level of cooperation and social interaction would be very beneficial. Watch the Alain Botton video about Epicurus.

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irornIAQzQY

                            Unfortunately, the higher standard of living was used to create a more autonomous life style, exactly what does not bring happiness. The emphasis should have been on social activity and liesure time instead of "bigger territory".

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                            • #74
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                              Originally posted by EJ View Post
                              Paris backs Syria no-fly zone as fighting grows

                              BEIRUT (AP) France signaled Thursday that it was prepared to take part in enforcing a partial no-fly zone over Syria, piling pressure on President Bashar Assad's embattled regime as it widens a major offensive against rebels in Damascus and surrounding areas.


                              Most of these last two months I have spent trying to figure out how to ease you all into this but I have still not yet devised a way.

                              I hope you have all enjoyed this last summer of our innocence and that you are prepared for what comes next.

                              I don't like the sound of that. Involuntary recruitment to an Arctic mining colony?

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                              • #75
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                                Originally posted by globaleconomicollaps View Post
                                I think the problem is not that he is worried about crushing the fragile flowers here. More that he doesn't want to encourage Mad Max hysteria and a "Gold Bug" atmosphere.

                                Also, What exactly is EJ predicting? A war in the middle east? Hasn't there been a war in the middle east for like 20 years? 30? Bad economy? unemployment? We already have that.
                                If people die faster than demand for goods and services tapering off we should be good, but should I invest in caskets, wooden and card board boxes, or dozers?

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