Re: China downgrades Britian! (F*cking YES!)
OK so we agree on that good.
You're letting yourself get distracted by small potatoes. Illegal immigration is a problem but its one that is solvable only by a government that wants to solve it. We have to fix our leadership issue first and then our FIRE economy before we can even begin to worry about immigration. Priorities and all that.
If you eliminate the reason for people to come AND give them viable options the immigration problem will largely solve itself. Work programs (ie. braceros) and going after employers who hire illegals will probably virtually eliminate illegal immigration. Which will also virtually eliminate many of the "coyotes" business too...
Then you legalize pot, which is what provides a huge chunk of the drug cartels cash, well over half of it. Without the cash from pot most of them will have to close up shop and go back across the border. Harder drugs will still be a problem but most of that is actually home grown via quick and dirty meth on the go production methods (aka shake n' bake).
Doing those things will do far more to protect our borders from the cartels and illegals than guns ever could. It'd probably be far cheaper and easier too. edit: It should also be pointed out that its incredibly dangerous for many illegals to make the effort to cross the border already. So its highly debatable wether soldiers shooting border crossers would do anything to deter more illegals. Likely what would happen is for everyone shot several would still come. And never forget we're talking about people here. People who are desperate in most cases and have a family to think of. We should not be so quick to shoot them for moral reasons alone.
I would say the FIRE economy was established during the so called backlash which just a bunch of nonsense drummed up by the media and gov. at the time.
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Then you legalize pot, which is what provides a huge chunk of the drug cartels cash, well over half of it. Without the cash from pot most of them will have to close up shop and go back across the border. Harder drugs will still be a problem but most of that is actually home grown via quick and dirty meth on the go production methods (aka shake n' bake).
Doing those things will do far more to protect our borders from the cartels and illegals than guns ever could. It'd probably be far cheaper and easier too. edit: It should also be pointed out that its incredibly dangerous for many illegals to make the effort to cross the border already. So its highly debatable wether soldiers shooting border crossers would do anything to deter more illegals. Likely what would happen is for everyone shot several would still come. And never forget we're talking about people here. People who are desperate in most cases and have a family to think of. We should not be so quick to shoot them for moral reasons alone.
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