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    Soldier in Iraq Loses Home Over $800 Debt

    Gives a new meaning to the word "neighborliness" :mad:

    Michael Clauer is a captain in the Army Reserve who commanded over 100 soldiers in Iraq. But while he was fighting for his country, a different kind of battle was brewing on the home front. Last September, Michael returned to Frisco, Texas, to find that his homeowners' association had foreclosed on his $300,000 house—and sold it for $3,500. This story illustrates the type of legal quagmire that can get out of hand while soldiers are serving abroad and their families are dealing with the stress of their deployment. And fixing the mess isn't easy.

    Michael went on active duty in February 2008 and was sent to Iraq. After he shipped out, his wife May slipped into a deep depression, according to court documents. "A lot of people say that the deployment is more stressful on the spouse than the actual person who's being deployed," Michael, 37, says in an interview with Mother Jones. May Clauer had two kids to take care of—a ten-year-old and a one-year-old with a serious seizure-related disorder. In addition, she was worried sick about her husband. Michael's company was doing convoy security in Iraq—an extremely dangerous job. "It was a pretty tough year for the whole company," he says. "We had IEDs, rocket attacks and mortar attacks, and a few soldiers that were hurt pretty bad and had to be airlifted back to the States."
    Seeking to avoid hearing about the situation in Iraq, May stopped watching the news. She rarely answered the door, and Michael says he couldn't tell her when he went "outside the wire"—off-base. May also stopped opening the mail. "I guess she was scared that she would hear bad news," says Michael. That was why she missed multiple notices from the Heritage Lakes Homeowners Association informing her that the family owed $800 in dues—and then subsequent notices stating that the HOA was preparing to foreclose on the debt and seize the home.

    In Texas, homeowners' associations can foreclose on homes without a court order, no matter the size of the debt. In May 2008, the HOA sold the Clauers' home for a pittance—$3,500—although its appraisal value was $300,000, according to court documents. The buyer then resold the house to a third person. (Select Management Co., the company that manages Heritage Lakes, declined to comment for this story.)

    It wasn't until June 2009 that May realized what had happened. Around that time, the new owner started demanding rent from the Clauers. She told Michael, who was still in Iraq. "At first I didn't believe it," he says. "I didn't understand how someone can take your house and not give you anything for it." When Texas Gov. Rick Perry visited Iraq in July, Michael says he told him about the problem. According to Michael, Perry called May and put lawyers in touch with the Clauers' attorney, but couldn't do much to alleviate the situation.
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    Quite different from this -- don't you think?


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    Re: Soldier in Iraq Loses Home Over $800 Debt

    Originally posted by Rajiv View Post
    Soldier in Iraq Loses Home Over $800 Debt

    Gives a new meaning to the word "neighborliness" :mad:



    Quite different from this -- don't you think?

    Sad story, but his wife fucked up big time, no?
    Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho

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      Re: Soldier in Iraq Loses Home Over $800 Debt

      Are you as clueless as you come across as?

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        Re: Soldier in Iraq Loses Home Over $800 Debt

        Originally posted by Rajiv View Post
        Soldier in Iraq Loses Home Over $800 Debt

        Gives a new meaning to the word "neighborliness" :mad:

        Rajiv, wait it gets worse: losing your mortgage-free home over a $363 water bill.


        Runtime: 10min.

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        • #5
          Re: Soldier in Iraq Loses Home Over $800 Debt

          Yes. This leads me to think that society is in fact breaking down. I think this increases the pressures to become as self sufficient as you can. Being debt free alone is not going to do it. Solar roof, water well, and septic tank -- may become a necessity for those who can afford it and haven't done so yet.

          Normally I would have thought that a water bill would only lead to a disconnect of the water supply -- this sort of behavior is unconscionable.

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          • #6
            Re: Soldier in Iraq Loses Home Over $800 Debt

            Originally posted by Rajiv
            this sort of behavior is unconscionable.
            yup .
            Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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            • #7
              Re: Soldier in Iraq Loses Home Over $800 Debt

              Dimitri Orlav and his 5 stages of collapse are an excellent read. I just hope we can do as well as the russian and stop the collapse at stage 3.

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                Re: Soldier in Iraq Loses Home Over $800 Debt

                Originally posted by jtabeb View Post
                Dimitri Orlav and his 5 stages of collapse are an excellent read. I just hope we can do as well as the russian and stop the collapse at stage 3.
                My guess is we stop before stage 3 (plus or minus 2 stages, depending on location.)

                From CLUBORLOV: The Five Stages of Collapse, the stages are:
                Stage 1: Financial collapse. Faith in "business as usual" is lost. The future is no longer assumed resemble the past in any way that allows risk to be assessed and financial assets to be guaranteed. Financial institutions become insolvent; savings are wiped out, and access to capital is lost.

                Stage 2: Commercial collapse. Faith that "the market shall provide" is lost. Money is devalued and/or becomes scarce, commodities are hoarded, import and retail chains break down, and widespread shortages of survival necessities become the norm.

                Stage 3: Political collapse. Faith that "the government will take care of you" is lost. As official attempts to mitigate widespread loss of access to commercial sources of survival necessities fail to make a difference, the political establishment loses legitimacy and relevance.

                Stage 4: Social collapse. Faith that "your people will take care of you" is lost, as local social institutions, be they charities or other groups that rush in to fill the power vacuum run out of resources or fail through internal conflict.

                Stage 5: Cultural collapse. Faith in the goodness of humanity is lost. People lose their capacity for "kindness, generosity, consideration, affection, honesty, hospitality, compassion, charity" (Turnbull, The Mountain People). Families disband and compete as individuals for scarce resources. The new motto becomes "May you die today so that I die tomorrow" (Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago). There may even be some cannibalism.
                My sense is that the respect that Americans have for their government lies deeper than we realize. Even as 90% of us figure that most politicians are scoundrels, we remain proud to be Americans. The U.S.S.R. came into being after World War I, and deeply abused it's "right to power" many times since, to the tune of murdering tens of millions of its citizens. The U.S.A. came into being over 200 years ago, and has inspired strong loyalty from many of its citizens most of the time since, with the last major internal killings being in the Civil War of the 1860's. Some states, such as Texas where I live now, also maintain the trust of its citizens, even if we'd like to vote certain politicians out of office.

                It's also important to understand that the United States is big and diverse. I've traveled all over this nation and lived in a dozen states. We don't all go down together. Some urban cities may continue to collapse (Detroit is already in about Stage 4) even as other areas (many parts of fly over country) are in Stage 1 and a few areas (North Dakota) are doing just fine.

                To me, the question has been for decades now in which state to live, not which country to emigrate to. California made fine sense during the computer and real estate booms; Texas (away from the coast, Louisiana and Mexico) looks like one of many relatively healthy places now.

                Do not underestimate the variations across America; do not underestimate the trust Americans have in their governments (even as we rip our politicians.)

                I expect the U.S. Federal government to stand, as it leads us into austerity, tyranny and debt slavery. Over time, that will erode the trust Americans have in their government, leaving the possibility of a major government collapse in the next major crisis, in another generation or two ... perhaps. But not now.
                Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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                  Re: Soldier in Iraq Loses Home Over $800 Debt

                  Originally posted by Rajiv View Post
                  Are you as clueless as you come across as?
                  Are you as sophomoric?

                  What do you think this story (and it is a bummer what happened to this family) represents other than Homeowner Associations blow and you ought to open, read, and respond to your mail, especially legal notices? You don't need to go Doomer Porn to make sense of what happened.
                  Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho

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                  • #10
                    Re: Soldier in Iraq Loses Home Over $800 Debt

                    I've lived through the collapse of the USSR and I still remember the nineties like it happened yesterday. Try to avoid going through this horror. I did not know there were stages, but now that I see them, I recognize them.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Soldier in Iraq Loses Home Over $800 Debt

                      Originally posted by deflateIT View Post
                      I've lived through the collapse of the USSR and I still remember the nineties like it happened yesterday. Try to avoid going through this horror. I did not know there were stages, but now that I see them, I recognize them.
                      So Orlav has it right, you were there?

                      "Therefore, as part of your exercise, assume that every supermarket and big box store is out of business, driven bankrupt by the high cost (and low availability) of diesel, electricity, and natural gas. Shop only at the local farmer's markets, small neighborhood groceries, and thrift stores. Buy as few new things as possible: trash-pick what you can, and repair items instead of replacing them. Learn to grow or gather at least some of your food. If you do not wish to go strictly vegetarian, raising chickens and rabbits is not so hard. To buy staples such as rice, travel into town and buy them in bulk from small immigrant-owned groceries – you can be sure that these will be around even after the supermarkets are gone.


                      "If your lease or mortgage requires you to have a full-time job in order to afford it, find a way to change your living situation to one that you can keep even when there is no more work. If you can cash out your equity and buy a place that is smaller, but that you can own free and clear, do so.

                      "Pay particular attention to how difficult a place will be to heat; do not assume that heating oil, natural gas, or large quantities of firewood will be available or affordable. Also, pay very close attention to the neighbors. Are they people you know and trust."

                      http://nosedive.org/backup/orlov.htm

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                      • #12
                        Re: Soldier in Iraq Loses Home Over $800 Debt

                        [QUOTE=LargoWinch;162976]Rajiv, wait it gets worse: losing your mortgage-free home over a $363 water bill.
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                        This is absurd.
                        You park your car, feed the meter, meter expires,
                        you lose your car?

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                          Re: Soldier in Iraq Loses Home Over $800 Debt

                          [QUOTE=Thailandnotes;163070]
                          Originally posted by LargoWinch View Post
                          Rajiv, wait it gets worse: losing your mortgage-free home over a $363 water bill.
                          [CENTER]

                          This is absurd.
                          You park your car, feed the meter, meter expires,
                          you lose your car?
                          I believe we are saying the same thing Thailandnotes.

                          Let me ask you this; do you feel the action (foreclosure) is justified in my above-noted clip?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Soldier in Iraq Loses Home Over $800 Debt

                            Originally posted by Master Shake View Post
                            Sad story, but his wife fucked up big time, no?
                            Well, if you call slipping into a deep depression "f***ing up big time", I suppose. I'd call that "getting sick", myself.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Soldier in Iraq Loses Home Over $800 Debt

                              Originally posted by nitroglycol View Post
                              Well, if you call slipping into a deep depression "f***ing up big time", I suppose. I'd call that "getting sick", myself.
                              There are all kinds of chemical treatment for depression and most start working within a week or so.

                              What happened to this family sucks, but I don't see any overarching meaning here, other than read your Homeowner Association by-laws closely and open and respond to your mail.
                              Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho

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