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  • #16
    Re: The Man and the Monkeys: A Wall Street Fable

    Originally posted by metalman View Post
    The Man and the Monkeys: A Wall Street Fable

    Once upon a time in a village a man appeared and announced to the villagers that he would buy monkeys for $10 each.

    The villagers knew that there were many monkeys in their forest. They left their farms on the plains and went into the forest to catch them. The man bought thousands at $10.

    As the supply of monkeys started to diminish the villagers stopped looking. Finding and catching monkeys was soon no longer worth the effort for $10. They started to return to their farms to plant the spring crop.

    The man then announced that he would buy monkeys for $20 each. This new higher price renewed the effort of the villagers and they headed back into the forest to find and catch monkeys again to sell.

    When the monkey supply diminished even further that summer and the people started to return to their farms, worried they had not made enough money selling monkeys to buy all the food they needed but had not planted any crops yet either, the man raised the price he'd pay for monkeys to $25 each. The hunt was on again.

    Soon the supply of monkeys became so small that a villager didn't see a monkey in a day of hunting let alone catch one. Even at $25 each the effort was not profitable so the villagers finally headed back to their farms that fall. After nine month's absence from their farms they knew the time had passed to produce enough food for the coming winter, but at least now they had enough money from selling monkeys to buy food to eat.

    But the man wasn't finished. He announced that he would buy monkeys for $50 each! The villagers became very excited. He also explained that he had to go to the city on business and that his assistant was to stay behind to buy monkeys on his behalf.

    As soon as the man left the assistant told the villagers, "So you think you have made a lot of money selling monkeys, don't you? But do you want to really get rich?"

    "Yes, yes!" said the villagers.

    The man's assistant went on. "I have a gigantic, enormous cage filled with monkeys. I will sell them to you for only $35 each and when the man returns from the city you can sell them to him for $50 each and make a fat profit. You don't even have to work to find monkeys at all. Then you can not only buy all the food you need for this winter you call all buy flat panel TVs, too."

    The villagers were thrilled. They collected all of their savings together and bought all the monkeys in the assistant's cage then awaited the man's return.

    They never saw the man nor his assistant again. All the monkeys that were once in the woods were now in the village. All of the villager's savings were gone. That winter, half the villagers starved.

    Moral: Substitute housing for monkeys. As the winter of the US economy arrives, you still have the house you had before the price was bid up. Now that prices are falling back down, who has your savings? But don't worry. The government won't let you starve. To ensure re-election it will by inflation redistribute wealth from savers to debtors.

    Now you know how Wall Street works an asset bubble racket.

    (Original by Anonymous, improvements by metalman.)
    Hey U calling me a monkey??? U don't really know me that well. OK I may be a monkey but why point it out? If anyone doesn't like your stuff they can - well U know how us monkeys are lol

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    • #17
      Re: The Man and the Monkeys: A Wall Street Fable

      Originally posted by metalman View Post
      tell ya what, pal. i'm not much of a writer. you, on the other hand, are a maniac. how about i turn my forum over to you? you game? everyone for it?
      I vote that he gets the Richard Cranium award, with the noise cluster & ribbons...

      http://www.NowAndTheFuture.com

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      • #18
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        • #19
          Re: The Man and the Monkeys: A Wall Street Fable

          Originally posted by Lukester View Post
          Thanks for the glowing endorsement El Bartos. I see you can barely contain your enthusiasm. To what do I owe this warm reception?

          Couldn't possibly be lack of insight.
          Jim 69 y/o

          "...Texans...the lowest form of white man there is." Robert Duvall, as Al Sieber, in "Geronimo." (see "Location" for examples.)

          Dedicated to the idea that all people deserve a chance for a healthy productive life. B&M Gates Fdn.

          Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement. Unknown.

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          • #20
            Re: The Man and the Monkeys: A Wall Street Fable

            Originally posted by Lukester View Post
            Thanks for the glowing endorsement El Bartos. I see you can barely contain your enthusiasm. To what do I owe this warm reception?
            Your post #8 above was way out of line:

            The management here gave you your own forum to post pithy commentary. I notice you've been a real slacker lately and don't post anything. No free ride pal. You better gird yourself up and start using this bully pulpit! And that goes for Bart and Finster and Aaron too! At least Sapiens keeps doing a proper day's work around here. The rest of you guys are maybe getting lazy? Resting on your laurels? Yeesh.
            http://www.NowAndTheFuture.com

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            • #21
              Re: The Man and the Monkeys: A Wall Street Fable

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              • #22
                Re: The Man and the Monkeys: A Wall Street Fable

                Originally posted by Lukester View Post
                Bart -

                You gotta be kidding. That was posted entirely in jest. Are you going all humorless on me now? You are one of the guys I've most enjoyed cracking jokes with. If we lose the ability to laugh (at ourselves as well as others) we not only become bores, we've lost the zest in life.

                Sorry you concluded that Bart. You know I think very highly of all of you posting in this section and indeed everywhere here. Maybe you are getting upset about an imaginary slight? I'm the very last person who would have been slighting you.
                You need to make it *much* clearer that it was in jest or just poking at folk. There was actually a :rolleyes: emoticon there at the end of your original post, and "rolling eyes" is not humor... and the sarcasm also implied was not welcome.

                You need to take into account both the amount of new folk on iTulip and how comments like yours can easily be misunderstood to the detriment of both those posters and iTulip itself... and even much more importantly, that the general mood of the country and world is at the beginning of and undergoing some massive shifts, and they're not in a positive direction.

                In other words, humor - yes... but either much lighter or much more obvious.
                http://www.NowAndTheFuture.com

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                • #23
                  Re: The Man and the Monkeys: A Wall Street Fable

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                  • #24
                    Re: The Man and the Monkeys: A Wall Street Fable

                    Originally posted by Lukester View Post
                    Ah, I see. I need to labor the humor with comments in parentheses leaving not a shred of doubt that it was intended with full solidarity, lest our new readers conclude you senior posters are really slackers?

                    Bart I have no idea what's gotten into you. Humor has all the sparkle of a one week old flat Coca-Cola if you 'explain' it every time you employ it. "Explained" humor is pedantic humor. OK so just for you, I will either avoid any trace of humor in the future even remotely including you, or I will put in copious footnotes that it is 'just kidding'.

                    You talk as though we were just getting acquainted, or as though you have a severe concern that newcomers here will think badly of you because I made a crack about slackers?

                    But how could that be Bart? All anyone has to do is do a search of your posts, and the calibre of your contributions is plain for anyone to see? Do you really think your good reputation has been tarnished by my backhanded compliment ('resting on your laurels')? I can see your mood has darkened notably, that you are apprehensive about nameless mal-intentioned things being directed at you - and I regret to see it. Do I really have to be "delicate" around you now?


                    You didn't get it man... first, I'm not the only one that was negatively affected. Just look above at the two others who weren't happy.
                    And I'm not asking for huge disclaimers - just a ;) would work to more clearly mark your intent... and yes, I was actually insulted.

                    Being light hearted most of the time does not mean that insults can't arrive or that misunderstandings can't occur. And light heartedness or humor is also not appropriate all the time either... keep in mind that we just barely have escaped a real live global economic meltdown within the last week or so.

                    But even more: You need to take into account ... much more importantly, that the general mood of the country and world is at the beginning of and undergoing some massive shifts, and they're not in a positive direction.

                    In other words, humor - yes... but either much lighter or much more obvious.



                    I'm not concerned much about opinions of me (or my reputation, whatever it is) or my posts since that's way more someone else's problem than my own, and screw solidarity and similar things.
                    I really really am saying that clarity is more important today, and will get *much* more so as the weeks and months go by.

                    You have just seen it happen with three negative reactions to that post and all I'm trying to do is to get you to see that things are changing hugely... and in my opinion, you need to change with it and be a bit more cautious.
                    http://www.NowAndTheFuture.com

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                    • #25
                      Re: The Man and the Monkeys: A Wall Street Fable

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                      • #26
                        Re: The Man and the Monkeys: A Wall Street Fable

                        Originally posted by Lukester View Post
                        Very weird post indeed Bart. Are you sure there is not some 'projection' in here? Yes, some bad things are happening in the economy - but as far as I can tell we have not stepped through any kind of airlock into any dank dark netherworld just yet.
                        I've done my best to urge you to consider a change in tone and behavior, and have obviously completely failed considering your use of the word 'projection' and the 'dark dank netherworld' characterization.
                        So be it...
                        http://www.NowAndTheFuture.com

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                        • #27
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                          • #28
                            Re: The Man and the Monkeys: A Wall Street Fable

                            Originally posted by Lukester View Post
                            Very weird post indeed Bart. Are you sure there is not some 'projection' in here? Yes, some bad things are happening in the economy - but as far as I can tell we have not stepped through any kind of airlock into any dank dark netherworld just yet.

                            As for Jim Nickerson, I believe his last comment in my direction was a veiled wish that I should not live long enough to see much of my retirement?


                            Very pleasant comment, eh? In your minute observations regarding my lack of courtesies (and mine were actually well intentioned) I wonder that you've not balanced your observations of my shortcomings with Jim's most recent exercise in Enlightened Southern Good Manners? LOL. Why don't I see you commenting even marginally on another's remarks which inadvertently reveal a murderous inclination? Is your field of vision here perhaps a little too selective?

                            My percieved discourtesies may be rescued from appearing quite so crude in comparison to Jim's here? I'll take a poke at someone, but I would find it feeble to resort to saying childishly venomous things like "I hope you die" which seems to be more Jim's style. I find your resulting exclusive concern for his sensibilities a bit droll Bart. :p

                            Another point we could observe is that although I receive such comments from lugs like this from time to time, I shrug them off quite cheerfully, which is why people like Jim (who have difficulty expressing their animosity in subtler ways) feel their 'hate-message' is not getting through to me. Your observation of comparative manners would appear to be highly selective here El Bartos.

                            Our impeccably mannered Jim has not managed to 'introduce' himself to me very favorably in the past. My earliest recollections were of his openly calling me a "liar" for not posting the names of all the junior cap uranium stocks in my portfolio that were up 5000% - 20,000%. Excuse me - you are declaring me in this community to be a "what"? :rolleyes:

                            The fact that his calling me a "liar" was an abjectly transparent attempt to just get the names of those stocks (he could care less whether I was a liar or not, he is rather what you may term AVID IN HIS PURSUIT OF MONEY 365 days a year - 24/7) immediately informed me that Jim sometimes seems to progress towards his aims at financial bonanzas on all fours, rather than on two feet.

                            Your tender skinned Jim Nickerson openly advocates the virtues of "starvation to reduce overpopulation" - yet I have an intuition he would turn into an urgent proponent of "protecting the weakest" were his ass personally ever on the line to starve. That would come as a terrible shock to his Randian perspective on things. You can admire that, but I don't. Sorry for being so blunt about it, but that way I make sure I'm well understood.

                            Criticise is fine. Just be objective.

                            I really do apologise to you Bart. I think you are a real gentleman. As to your friend Jim, well, frankly you can keep him.
                            Luke, if I had any notion I wanted, or wished you dead, I would write just that. If I didn't write then I didn't insinuate it.

                            I will tell you in my rather much longer considered opinion than whenever I first wrote it after you burst onto the scene here, you are totally full of yourself and nothing has changed for the better with regard to that unfortunately.

                            Now I could suggest, Lukester, you are absolutely full of shit, but actually I think what you are is apparent, and my perceptions of you may be clouded with objectivity.
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                            Jim 69 y/o

                            "...Texans...the lowest form of white man there is." Robert Duvall, as Al Sieber, in "Geronimo." (see "Location" for examples.)

                            Dedicated to the idea that all people deserve a chance for a healthy productive life. B&M Gates Fdn.

                            Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement. Unknown.

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                            • #29
                              Re: The Man and the Monkeys: A Wall Street Fable

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                              • #30
                                Re: The Man and the Monkeys: A Wall Street Fable

                                Originally posted by Lukester View Post
                                Jim -

                                Yap yap yap. Yappity yappity yap.
                                Lukester, you just proved me wrong, at least to a degree. I would have bet 10bonars, my comment would have evoked a full screen of retort, I am so thankful it didn't.
                                Jim 69 y/o

                                "...Texans...the lowest form of white man there is." Robert Duvall, as Al Sieber, in "Geronimo." (see "Location" for examples.)

                                Dedicated to the idea that all people deserve a chance for a healthy productive life. B&M Gates Fdn.

                                Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement. Unknown.

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