Is Obama our Gorbachev?

[Ghent12]

Re: Is Obama our Gorbachev?

I just now caught this post. I said essentially the same thing in a post just a while back.

Confirming Parallel (near) simultaneous independent conclusions are not to be trifled with.

I just caught this post as well. If President Obama is our Gorbachev, does that make Ahmadinejad the world's Reagan?
I can hear it now: "Mr. Obama, tear down this wall! Also, the Jews did 9/11."

[GRG55]

Re: Is Obama our Gorbachev?

Well that leaves out "biker leather" Palin then...[insert sound of sigh of relief here]...

[jk]

Re: Is Obama our Gorbachev?

Did you mean Palin?:eek:

somewhere recently i read a quote of upton sinclair, that when fascism comes to america it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.

[jtabeb]

Re: Is Obama our Gorbachev?

yes, he'll be running against a republican chernenko. [if we're lucky, and it's not a republican stalin.]

Did you mean Palin?:eek:

[jtabeb]

Re: Is Obama our Gorbachev?

Was talking with a friend today who was asking how Paulson, Geither would be thought of ten years from now. I said they'd be remembered for trying to reboot a failed system.

Then I casually said "Obama is our Gorbachev"

And the more I thought about it, the more it made a weird kind of sense. Younger guy from a new generation trying to take a failed system and right it. But the he grew up as part of the system and can't recognize that it is a failure at this point (which needs revamping to a level that it wouldn't be recognizable anymore as the old system) or the bureaucracy and entrenched interests won't *let* the required changes happen (or fight it so long both sides are exhausted and die on the battlefield)

I just now caught this post. I said essentially the same thing in a post just a while back.

Confirming Parallel (near) simultaneous independent conclusions are not to be trifled with.

[jk]

Re: Is Obama our Gorbachev?

The difference is that unlike Brezhnev, Obama eventually has to go to the polls...

yes, he'll be running against a republican chernenko. [if we're lucky, and it's not a republican stalin.]

[GRG55]

Re: Is Obama our Gorbachev?

i'd like to think you're right. but i'm beginning to think that obama is our brezhnev. brezhnev displaced the erratic krushchev and made the soviet union safe for entrenched elites.

The difference is that unlike Brezhnev, Obama eventually has to go to the polls...

[jpatter666]

Re: Is Obama our Gorbachev?

i'd like to think you're right. but i'm beginning to think that obama is our brezhnev. brezhnev displaced the erratic krushchev and made the soviet union safe for entrenched elites.

Yeesh....horrible thought.

[jk]

Re: Is Obama our Gorbachev?

i'd like to think you're right. but i'm beginning to think that obama is our brezhnev. brezhnev displaced the erratic krushchev and made the soviet union safe for entrenched elites.

[jpatter666]

Was talking with a friend today who was asking how Paulson, Geither would be thought of ten years from now. I said they'd be remembered for trying to reboot a failed system.

Then I casually said "Obama is our Gorbachev"

And the more I thought about it, the more it made a weird kind of sense. Younger guy from a new generation trying to take a failed system and right it. But the he grew up as part of the system and can't recognize that it is a failure at this point (which needs revamping to a level that it wouldn't be recognizable anymore as the old system) or the bureaucracy and entrenched interests won't *let* the required changes happen (or fight it so long both sides are exhausted and die on the battlefield)