Obama declares swine flu a national emergency

[thedanimal]

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Those levels were probably inadequate to provide protection (depending on the sunshine component). Take a look at information here and here.

Best of luck.

swgprop, what is the best form to take Vitamin D in? I know there are probably many delivery methods like other vitamins. Thanks.

[Kadriana]

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Those levels were probably inadequate to provide protection (depending on the sunshine component). Take a look at information here and here.

Best of luck.

That's why I was trying to make sure they got plenty of sun. They had started harvesting the week before we got sick and it was too loud and dusty to go outside so maybe that was enough to put us over. We're all extremely pale so it doesn't take much for us to get vitamin D from the sun. This is the first time I think I've ever gotten the flu, might have had a mild version once, and definitely the first time for both my kids. My husband had been working on a project outside for the last couple weeks and he's still healthy. My daughter was getting the most sun out of the two kids and she was the worst so I don't know how much of a difference it makes. My son just weaned a couple months ago so maybe that helped him.

[strittmatter]

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This is one bizarre video!

What is the likelihood/validity of this woman's situation being related to her vaccination? Or is it a fake?

2:18 min.
Girl Gets Flu Shot and Can Now Only Walk Backwards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR5p_bD3uLc

er...........good thing this thread is already in the "I've Lost My Mind Just Now" forum.

[swgprop]

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My husband and I were taking 800. My daughter was on 200 and my son was getting half a flinstones so 100. I was also making sure I drank rice milk every day which is fortified with D. My daughter drinks a lot of milk and my son also drinks rice milk. We were also trying to get plently of son so we could get vitamin D the most natural way. Between my two kids, I would say my daughter is the healthier one and gets more vitamin D through milk and sunshine and she was hit the worst. My son has tubes in his ears and allergy issues and his fever never really got over 99 where I had a horrible time trying to keep my daughter's under 103.

Those levels were probably inadequate to provide protection (depending on the sunshine component). Take a look at information here and here.

Best of luck.

[Kadriana]

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Sorry to hear it Kadriana, hope you all recover quickly and completely. Been reading quite a bit about D3 and influenza, can I ask what dosage you all were taking?

My husband and I were taking 800. My daughter was on 200 and my son was getting half a flinstones so 100. I was also making sure I drank rice milk every day which is fortified with D. My daughter drinks a lot of milk and my son also drinks rice milk. We were also trying to get plently of son so we could get vitamin D the most natural way. Between my two kids, I would say my daughter is the healthier one and gets more vitamin D through milk and sunshine and she was hit the worst. My son has tubes in his ears and allergy issues and his fever never really got over 99 where I had a horrible time trying to keep my daughter's under 103.

ETA: I must be pretty sick if I'm typing son instead of sun. :/

[jiimbergin]

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Good article about vaccines and antivirals in the atlantic http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200911/brownlee-h1n1

Thanks, reminds me a lot of the AGW group. Here there seems to be a reasonable amount of evidence that says vacinations do not reduce mortality rates but mainstream medicine refuses to even consider that point.

[ER59]

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Good article about vaccines and antivirals in the atlantic http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200911/brownlee-h1n1

[goadam1]

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Did anyone think this was a joke?

Read what the National Emergencies Act is all about:

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/98-505.pdf

I for one am glad we have a proactive government. A bad flu and a recession and they are (gasp!) going to do what it take to treat sick people.
From reuters:

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius now has authority to bypass federal rules when opening alternative care sites, such as offsite hospital centers at schools or community centers if hospitals seek permission.
Some hospitals have opened drive-thrus and drive-up tent clinics to screen and treat swine flu patients. The idea is to keep infectious people out of regular emergency rooms and away from other sick patients.
Hospitals could modify patient rules — for example, requiring them to give less information during a hectic time — to quicken access to treatment, with government approval, under the declaration.
It also addresses a financial question for hospitals — reimbursement for treating people at sites not typically approved. For instance, federal rules do not allow hospitals to put up treatment tents more than 250 yards away from the doors; if the tents are 300 yards or more away, typically federal dollars won't go to pay for treatment.
Administration officials said those rules might not make sense while fighting the swine flu, especially if the best piece of pavement is in the middle of a parking lot and some medical centers already are putting in place parts of their emergency plans.
"I think the term emergency declaration sounds more dramatic than it really is," said Dr. Peter Hotez, a research professor and chairman of the Department of Microbiology, Immunology and Tropical Medicine at George Washington University. "It's largely an administrative move that's more preemptive ..." He said such a step would give emergency rooms and hospitals the flexibility they need.
The national emergency declaration was the second of two steps needed to give Sebelius extraordinary powers during a crisis.

[goadam1]

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Did anyone think this was a joke?

Read what the National Emergencies Act is all about:

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/98-505.pdf

Okay, so what is our Prison Planet moment. I've been waiting a long time for FEMA police to start shooting looters or something exciting. So far the only cool stuff I've been in were NYC on 9/11 and the LA riots.

[goadam1]

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Every time this thread pops up, I like to point out that NYC was apparently the epicenter with news outlets suggesting 10% or more of the population was infected.

I don't know anyone who has been sick more than usual. The subway is filled with the same wretches as always. I simply don't understand what the big deal is.

Some estimates say nyc had a 40% infection rate in Spring. Not one kid out with flu this year at School. In Spring almost the whole class had a flu but no one knows if it was h1n1

[Sapiens]

Re: Obama declares swine flu a national emergency

Did anyone think this was a joke?

Read what the National Emergencies Act is all about:

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/98-505.pdf

[BrianL]

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Friends who work at the hospital or clinics on college campuses are getting slammed. One of the college clinics were only treating flu for the rest of the year and referring everything else to the hospital.

The fatality rate may not be much different, but it sounds like the number of people requiring serious treatment/overnight stays at the hospital is much higher than usual. Anecdotally at least, in the Seattle area.

[Serge_Tomiko]

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My neighbors have three girls, 11 yo twins and a 9 yo. All had H1N1 the week before last. 2-3 days in bed, nowhere near as severe as seasonal flu. Big Whoop.

Every time this thread pops up, I like to point out that NYC was apparently the epicenter with news outlets suggesting 10% or more of the population was infected.

I don't know anyone who has been sick more than usual. The subway is filled with the same wretches as always. I simply don't understand what the big deal is.

[swgprop]

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My husband and I had to take both the kids to the ER because of influenza, assuming H1N1 since they tested positive for type A. My 1 year old needed an IV for dehydration. It happened very quickly and he barely had a fever. My daughter is on steroids for breathing issues. We all had been taking vitamin D and live fairly healthy lifestyles. The worst part is trying to keep my daughter's fever below 103. We're on day 5 of being sick and it's still pretty bad still for my daughter. My son and I seem to be doing better. My husband hasn't shown any signs of getting sick except a stuffy nose.

Sorry to hear it Kadriana, hope you all recover quickly and completely. Been reading quite a bit about D3 and influenza, can I ask what dosage you all were taking?

[goadam1]

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I thought flu vaccines were given immunity from this ban? yup found it...

from the above link:

Since 2001, with the exception of some influenza (flu) vaccines, thimerosal is not used as a preservative in routinely recommended childhood vaccines.

That's what I thought.