What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

[rogermexico]

Re: What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

Every time I have seen some American on TV, maybe teaching their son to use weapon at some weapon learning center. My thought have been that person is crazy, one of those idiots that think the US actually have something to do in Iraq, and probably have a fat, fat wife, overweight children, vote conservative republican, think he have the full right to kill intruders (because paranoia is part of the mindset of someone like that, how could they even judge who to kill) and drive a big car with low mpg stealing all that oil we have in the north sea, with the worthless dollars. Worst is that he might think he represents common sense, while in reality live in a very narrow bubble. Reminds me of the Simpson episode Homer joined some weapon organization. They sure knew how to put it

Yes, your mind is indeed a sophisticated left-wing cartoon by Matt Groening.

I am starting to suspect that you are plant hired by EJ to keep us entertained while he writes his book.

[nero3]

Re: What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

i agree fully! I was just called semi retarded because i grew up in North Carolina and my crazy southern heritage is spreading a gun crazed mind set across the nation! I recommend a book called "Deer Hunting With Jesus" This book is all about this issue!

Something no one has said yet is that anyone here could produce a wellspring of statistical information proving no correlation with the amount of guns in a populace and the amount of homicides! A lot of studies have come back saying that the more armed a populace is the less violent crime occurs in that area! Food for thought!

Oh and please do a better job at your blanket statements nero3, it doesnt serve your argument well!

Every time I have seen some American on TV, maybe teaching their son to use weapon at some weapon learning center. My thought have been that person is crazy, one of those idiots that think the US actually have something to do in Iraq, and probably have a fat, fat wife, overweight children, vote conservative republican, think he have the full right to kill intruders (because paranoia is part of the mindset of someone like that, how could they even judge who to kill) and drive a big car with low mpg stealing all that oil we have in the north sea, with the worthless dollars. Worst is that he might think he represents common sense, while in reality live in a very narrow bubble. Reminds me of the Simpson episode Homer joined some weapon organization. They sure knew how to put it

[rogermexico]

Re: gun sales skyrocketing in US

You should really read some Hobbes. Maybe you should just realize that people are stupid, and democracy are tyranny.

Huh? You must be just name-dropping dead philosophers now. How could you read Hobbes, accept his view of the state of nature, and not think it wise to defend yourself agianst the depredations of all those stupid (your words) people?

Oh, that's right, "Snälla staten, takk for maten"

Your leviathan state will do it for you.

[j4f2h0]

Re: What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

Civility rules reminder:

No name calling.

No disparaging of members by race, religion, age, sex, or nationality.

One warning.

i agree fully! I was just called semi retarded because i grew up in North Carolina and my crazy southern heritage is spreading a gun crazed mind set across the nation! I recommend a book called "Deer Hunting With Jesus" This book is all about this issue!

Something no one has said yet is that anyone here could produce a wellspring of statistical information proving no correlation with the amount of guns in a populace and the amount of homicides! A lot of studies have come back saying that the more armed a populace is the less violent crime occurs in that area! Food for thought!

Oh and please do a better job at your blanket statements nero3, it doesnt serve your argument well!

[nero3]

Re: gun sales skyrocketing in US

This is a good illustration of the European view of human beings:

* that we are basically stupid, irresponsible children who are not to be trusted with too much independence or power. We must not be allowed to own guns because they are too dangerous for us...only the government should have guns, because the government is wise and kind and made up of people who have studied the proper courses at the proper universities.

* that we are selfish and greedy and would not give the proper amount to charity if it was left up to us, so our money should be taken away from us and given to the proper causes.

* that we will buy the wrong products or offer the wrong services or invest in the wrong investments, so wise government officials should decide what we are allowed to buy, sell, and invest in.

* that we are too stupid to be able to tell whether an idea is true or not, so we must only be exposed to proper ideas, and the rest will be banned as "hate speech".

Traditional Americans believe that the only proper role of government is to protect our freedom. We are responsible for our lives beyond that, and we like it that way. We don't want to live in a society that's been turned into a gigantic kindergarten where Mommy Government decides for us how to think and live so we don't hurt our itty-bitty selves.

Americans from the Pilgrims to the Founders to the Western settlers to the modern day have kept firearms for defense and we will to the day we die. Take your paternalistic European views and keep them over there. Oh, and see how well they serve you when the rest of Norway, like Oslo, becomes increasingly muslim. I'm sure the muslims will be very happy that you are all unarmed.

You should really read some Hobbes. Maybe you should just realize that people are stupid, and democracy are tyranny.

[rogermexico]

Re: What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

"Snälla staten, takk for maten"

HaHaHa

My maternal grandfather was 100% swede. I am going to memorize that in his honor.

Nero (should volunteer to) have that tattoo'ed on his forehead.

[The Bouncer]

Re: What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

Civility rules reminder:

No name calling.

No disparaging of members by race, religion, age, sex, or nationality.

One warning.

[nero3]

Re: gun sales skyrocketing in US

Because the existence of a gun has absolutely nothing to do with being shot by it.

Great stuff! Confirms what I was thinking.

Re: gun sales skyrocketing in US

that's nero's hallmark.

vote a new custom title for nero3!

- fact-free
- nordic caveman
- waste of time
- net zero
- other?

noway ;)

Just jesting, all in good fun!

[Munger]

Re: gun sales skyrocketing in US

And there were some Indians who fought with the cavalry. And some jews helped the nazis. So what? If your position is that islam poses no threat to traditional America then you've been living in a cave for the last 30 years. I speak as someone who has recently had a whole lot of Somali muslims move into his community, at least one of whom has gone back and died in Somalia committing terrorism. Anyplace you get a significant population of muslims, you get a sub-population of islamic fundamentalists who want to make the country muslim.

Yep, I'm a 100% dyed-in-the-wool, anti-muslim bigot. Live with it, "dumass".

And proud of it!

[metalman]

Re: What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

...semi-retarded southern culture.

hey, nero. first you insult our intelligence by ignoring our investment thesis, now half our country with a depiction of them as semi-retarded? you're a real charmer.

[GRG55]

Re: What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

Hi Chomsky,

Well then some of you made the right move buying precious metals, especially Platinum and Rhodium. All we need then is ammonia to make the nitric acid. I am sure some of us can start growing the cotton. That should give us a good supply of nitrocellulose. Obama will need to keep his eye out for anyone hoarding cat piss.

Primers will be a bit more challenging but I am sure someone would start looking into making Potassium perchlorate based primers. The lead and brass is easy.

You learn the most amazing things hanging around this place...

[Munger]

Re: gun sales skyrocketing in US

This is a good illustration of the European view of human beings:

* that we are basically stupid, irresponsible children who are not to be trusted with too much independence or power. We must not be allowed to own guns because they are too dangerous for us...only the government should have guns, because the government is wise and kind and made up of people who have studied the proper courses at the proper universities.

* that we are selfish and greedy and would not give the proper amount to charity if it was left up to us, so our money should be taken away from us and given to the proper causes.

* that we will buy the wrong products or offer the wrong services or invest in the wrong investments, so wise government officials should decide what we are allowed to buy, sell, and invest in.

* that we are too stupid to be able to tell whether an idea is true or not, so we must only be exposed to proper ideas, and the rest will be banned as "hate speech".

Traditional Americans believe that the only proper role of government is to protect our freedom. We are responsible for our lives beyond that, and we like it that way. We don't want to live in a society that's been turned into a gigantic kindergarten where Mommy Government decides for us how to think and live so we don't hurt our itty-bitty selves.

Americans from the Pilgrims to the Founders to the Western settlers to the modern day have kept firearms for defense and we will to the day we die. Take your paternalistic European views and keep them over there. Oh, and see how well they serve you when the rest of Norway, like Oslo, becomes increasingly muslim. I'm sure the muslims will be very happy that you are all unarmed.

Because the existence of a gun has absolutely nothing to do with being shot by it.

[Chomsky]

Re: gun sales skyrocketing in US

that's nero's hallmark.

vote a new custom title for nero3!

- fact-free
- nordic caveman
- waste of time
- net zero
- other?

Fiddler on the loose

[nero3]

Re: What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

WOW, are you nuts? In this state, if someone forcibly enters your home--you can shoot them on the spot, there is no duty to retreat and call your insurance company. I could not imagine it being any different elsewhere, so your perspective seems lunatic to me. I guess that is why there is more than one place to live.

The one who offers me violence to take what i have worked for is attempting to enslave me. I will not be enslaved by someone who wishes to re-write the social contract through force.

If you do as you say here, you will get the maximum penalty in prison I think. So I don't recommend you try it here.

Its not self defence what you are advocating. its manslaughter. pure and simple. You are no different if you do what you say, than if you just kill someone you think are a criminal far away from your house, like for fun.