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    Japan struggles to store nuclear plant water

    DOHA - Japan's crippled nuclear power plant in Fukushima is struggling to find space to store tens of thousands of tonnes of highly contaminated water used to cool the broken reactors, the manager of the water treatment team has said.

    About 200,000 tonnes of radioactive water, enough to fill more than 50 Olympic-sized swimming pools, are being stored in hundreds of gigantic tanks built around the Fukushima Daiichi plant.

    Operator Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) has already chopped down trees to make room for more tanks and predicts the volume of water will be more than tripled within three years.

    "It's a time-pressing issue because the storage of contaminated water has its limits, there is only limited storage space," the water-treatment manager, Yuichi Okamura, told the AP news agency in an interview this week.

    Dumping massive amounts of water into the melting reactors was the only way to avoid an even bigger catastrophe after the meltdown at TEPCOs Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power reactor, caused by the March 11, 2011, tsunami.

    Okamura remembers frantically trying to find a way to get water to spent fuel pools located on the highest floor of the 50m high reactor buildings. Without water, the spent fuel likely would have overheated and melted, sending radioactive smoke for miles and affecting possibly millions of people.

    The measures to keep the plant under control created another huge headache for the utility: what to do with all the radioactive water that leaked out of the damaged reactors and collected in the basements of reactor buildings and nearby facilities.

    "At that time, we never expected high-level contaminated water to turn up in the turbine building," Okamura said.

    He was tasked with setting up a treatment system that would make the water clean enough for reuse as a coolant, and was also aimed at reducing health risks for workers and at curbing environmental damage.

    At first, the utility shunted the tainted water into existing storage tanks near the reactors. Meanwhile, Okamura's 55-member team scrambled to get a treatment unit up and running within three months of the accident, a project that would normally take about two years, he said. Using that equipment, TEPCO was able to circulate reprocessed water back into the reactor cores.

    Even though the reactors now are being cooled exclusively with recycled water, the volume of contaminated water is still increasing, mostly because groundwater is seeping through cracks into the reactor and turbine basements.

    Next month, Okamura's group plans to flip the switch on new purifying equipment using Toshiba Corp technology. "By purifying the water using the ALPS system, theoretically, all radioactive products can be purified to below detection levels," he said.

    In the meantime its tanks are filling up, mostly because leaks in reactor facilities are allowing groundwater to pour in.

    Masashi Goto, a nuclear engineer and university lecturer, said the contaminated water build-up posed a major long-term threat to health and the environment. He said the radioactive water in the basements may already be getting into the underground water system, where it could reach far beyond the plant via underground water channels, possibly reaching the ocean or public water supplies.

    "There are pools of some 10,000 or 20,000 tonnes of contaminated water in each plant, and there are many of these, and to bring all of these to one place would mean you would have to treat hundreds of thousands of tonnes of contaminated water, which is mind-blowing in itself," Goto said. "It's an outrageous amount, truly outrageous.".

    The plant will have to deal with contaminated water until all the melted fuel and other debris is removed from the reactor, a process that will easily take more than a decade.

    (Inter Press Service)

    Fish Off Japan’s Coast Said to Contain Elevated Levels of Cesium

    By HIROKO TABUCHI

    TOKYO — Elevated levels of cesium still detected in fish off the Fukushima coast of Japan suggest that radioactive particles from last year’s nuclear disaster have accumulated on the seafloor and could contaminate sea life for decades, according to new research.

    The findings published in Friday’s issue of the journal Science highlight the challenges facing Japan as it seeks to protect its food supply and rebuild the local fisheries industry.

    More than 18 months after the nuclear disaster, Japan bans the sale of 36 species of fish caught off Fukushima, rendering the bulk of its fishing boats idle and denying the region one of its mainstay industries.

    Some local fishermen are trying to return to work. Since July, a handful of them have resumed small-scale commercial fishing for species, like octopus, that have cleared government radiation tests. Radiation readings in waters off Fukushima and beyond have returned to near-normal levels.

    But about 40 percent of fish caught off Fukushima and tested by the government still have too much cesium to be safe to eat under regulatory limits set by the Japanese government last year, said the article’s author, Ken O. Buesseler, a leading marine chemistry expert at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, who analyzed test results from the 12 months following the March 2011 disaster.

    Because cesium tends not to stay very long in the tissues of saltwater fish — and because high radiation levels have been detected most often in bottom-feeding fish — it is likely that fish are being newly contaminated by cesium on the seabed, Mr. Buesseler wrote in the Science article.

    “The fact that many fish are just as contaminated today with cesium 134 and cesium 137 as they were more than one year ago implies that cesium is still being released into the food chain,” Mr. Buesseler wrote. This kind of cesium has a half-life of 30 years, meaning that it falls off by half in radioactive intensity every 30 years. Given that, he said, “sediments would remain contaminated for decades to come.”

    Officials at Japan’s Fisheries Agency, which conducted the tests, said Mr. Buesseler’s analysis made sense.

    “In the early days of the disaster, as the fallout hit the ocean, we saw high levels of radiation from fish near the surface,” said Koichi Tahara, assistant director of the agency’s resources and research division. “But now it would be reasonable to assume that radioactive substances are settling on the seafloor.”

    But that was less of a concern than Mr. Buesseler’s research might suggest, Mr. Tahara said, because the cesium was expected to eventually settle down into the seabed.

    Mr. Tahara also stressed that the government would continue its vigorous testing and that fishing bans would remain in place until radiation readings returned to safe levels.

    Naohiro Yoshida, an environmental chemistry expert at the Tokyo Institute of Technology, said that while he agreed with much of Mr. Buesseler’s analysis, it was too early to reach a conclusion on how extensive radioactive contamination of Japan’s oceans would be, and how long it would have an impact on marine life in the area.

    Further research was needed on ocean currents, sediments and how different species of fish are affected by radioactive contamination, he said.

    As much as four-fifths of the radioactive substances released from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant are thought to have entered the sea, either blown offshore or released directly into the ocean from water used to cool the site’s reactors in the wake of the accident.

    Sea currents quickly dispersed that radioactivity, and seawater readings off the Fukushima shore returned to near-normal levels. But fish caught in the area continue to show elevated readings for radioactive cesium, which is associated with an increased risk of cancer in humans.

    Just two months ago, two greenling caught close to the Fukushima shore were found to contain more than 25,000 becquerels a kilogram of cesium, the highest cesium levels found in fish since the disaster and 250 times the government’s safety limit.

    The operator of the Fukushima plant, the Tokyo Electric Power Company, said that the site no longer released contaminated water into the ocean, and that radiation levels in waters around the plant had stabilized.

    But Yoshikazu Nagai, a spokesman for the company, said he could not rule out undetected leaks into the ocean from its reactors, the basements of which remain flooded with cooling water.

    To reduce the chance of water from seeping out of the plant, Tokyo Electric is building a 2,400-foot-long wall between the site’s reactors and the ocean. But Mr. Nagai said the steel-and-concrete wall, which will reach 100 feet underground, would take until mid-2014 to build.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/26/wo...gewanted=print

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    Re: Remember Fukushima?

    Why were the spent fuel rods stored on the highest floor? Seems stupid.

    Why were so many spent fuel rods stored there? Was that a permanent solution? Or did they not have a permanent solution for disposing of them, so they just stashed them up in the attic, so to speak?

    We have nuclear plants of the same design running in the USA. Are the spent fuel rods stored the same way?

    Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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    • #3
      Re: Remember Fukushima?

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      • #4
        Re: Remember Fukushima?

        Originally posted by shiny! View Post
        Why were the spent fuel rods stored on the highest floor? Seems stupid.

        Why were so many spent fuel rods stored there? Was that a permanent solution? Or did they not have a permanent solution for disposing of them, so they just stashed them up in the attic, so to speak?

        We have nuclear plants of the same design running in the USA. Are the spent fuel rods stored the same way?
        Yes, our shit stinks too.
        Apparently, we tried to build a storage facility:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_M...ste_repository

        too much NIMBY

        so, yes, the waste sits... and accumulates.

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        • #5
          Re: Remember Fukushima?

          Originally posted by aaron View Post


          so, yes, the waste sits... and accumulates.
          Better than spewing it into the air without any form of containment.

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          • #6
            Re: Remember Fukushima?

            Surely the best way to trap the contamination will be to use the water to manufacture concrete where it will become a part of the chemical structure of the concrete?

            Just a thought to add to the debate.

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            • #7
              Re: Remember Fukushima?

              1.) Buy four or five worn out oil tankers.
              2.) Fill the tankers with the waste water.
              3.) Add food service jello and mix. This has the consistency of rubber and will never melt.
              4.) Spread a little oil on top of the jello mixture.
              5.) Sail the tankers to the coast of Africa and allow the Somali pirates to capture them.
              6.) Keep threatening to use force to recover the tankers so the pirates keep them well guarded.
              7.) Negotiate with the pirates for the next 10 years for the return of the "oil" filled tankers.
              8.) After the pirates all die of cancer, gift the tankers to the Somali government with the stipulation that they must keep them as is and use them as collateral for an IMF loan to build a nuclear reactor.
              9.) When the Somalis default on the IMF loan, buy the tankers cheap at auction.
              10.) Gift them to another third world country for use only as collateral for another IMF loan.
              "I love a dog, he does nothing for political reasons." --Will Rogers

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              • #8
                Re: Remember Fukushima?

                See also:

                Fukushima Update: Unit 4 Is Sinking … Unevenly

                The spent fuel pool at Fukushima Unit 4 is the top short-term threat to humanity, and is a national security issue for America.
                As such, it is disturbing news that the ground beneath unit 4 is sinking.
                Specifically, Unit 4 sunk 36 inches right after the earthquake, and has sunk another 30 inches since then.
                Moreover, Unit 4 is sinking unevenly, and the building may begin tilting.
                An international coalition of nuclear scientists and non-profit groups are calling on the U.N. to coordinate a multi-national effort to stabilize the fuel pools. And see this.

                Given the precarious situation at Unit 4, it is urgent that the world community pool its scientific resources to come up with a fix.
                http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed...ithin-500-feet

                Yes, that is THE fuel pool 4, the one with the hundreds of spend fuel rods that would release the biggest load of waste into the atmosphere in human history if exposed to air.
                "It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here." - Deus Ex HR

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                • #9
                  Re: Remember Fukushima?

                  An old but important blog post on Fukushima:

                  The Greatest Single Threat to Humanity: Fuel Pool Number 4

                  We noted days after the Japanese earthquake that the biggest threat was from the spent fuel rods in the fuel pool at Fukushima unit number 4, and not from the reactors themselves. See this and this.
                  We noted in February:
                  Scientists say that there is a 70% chance of a magnitude 7.0 earthquake hitting Fukushima this year, and a 98% chance within the next 3 years.
                  Given that nuclear expert Arnie Gundersen says that an earthquake of 7.0 or larger could cause the entire fuel pool structure collapse, it is urgent that everything humanly possible is done to stabilize the structure housing the fuel pools at reactor number 4.
                  The storage pool in the No. 4 reactor building has a total of 1,535 fuel rods, or 460 tons of nuclear fuel, in it. The 7-story building itself has suffered great damage, with the storage pool barely intact on the building’s third and fourth floors. The roof has been blown away. If the storage pool breaks and runs dry, the nuclear fuel inside will overheat and explode, causing a massive amount of radioactive substances to spread over a wide area. Both the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) and French nuclear energy company Areva have warned about this risk.
                  The meltdown and unprecedented release of radiation that would ensue is the worst case scenario that then-Prime Minister Kan and other former officials have discussed in the past months. He warned during his speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos that such an accident would force the evacuation of the 35 million people in Tokyo, close half of Japan and compromise the nation’s sovereignty.
                  if the crippled building of reactor unit 4—with 1,535 fuel rods in the spent fuel pool 100 feet (30 meters) above the ground—collapses,not only will it cause a shutdown of all six reactors but will also affect the common spent fuel pool containing 6,375 fuel rods, located some 50 meters from reactor 4. In both cases the radioactive rods are not protected by a containment vessel; dangerously, they are open to the air. This would certainly cause a global catastrophe like we have never before experienced. He stressed that the responsibility of Japan to the rest of the world is immeasurable. Such a catastrophe would affect us all for centuries. Ambassador Murata informed us that the total numbers of the spent fuel rods at the Fukushima Daiichi site excluding the rods in the pressure vessel is 11,421


                  http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/...fukushima.html
                  "It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here." - Deus Ex HR

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                  • #10
                    Re: Remember Fukushima?

                    Doing nothing is thus not an option. The very best people to address this are not scientists, but mechanical engineers. This is very simply a movement problem. Each fuel rod is a single item, so what is needed is a quick method to move them one by one.

                    What seems to have occurred is that the people on the ground have frozen; not an unusual situation with human beings. This happens all the time when people are faced with something beyond their normal experience; they freeze and cannot act.

                    In which case the best engineers must now be challenged to work out a simple solution. It will be a simple solution; complexity can only hinder.

                    I am NOT a mechanical engineer; I am an inventor and highly skilled artisan in mechanical engineering, but with additional and substantial design experience in creating scientific studies and new equipment.

                    We must have an international body step forward to drive a solution; then those of us with the intellectual power to not freeze up and thus to propose solutions can get involved and form a team that everyone will respect.

                    Lifting debris is already solved, you just need the right tools for the job. A very high capacity Tower Crane should be built right beside the fuel pool, equipped with the same sort of kit used to pick up scrap metal in a scrap yard. I bet there will be such equipment close nearby. Set the challenge, and let the very best engineers respond.

                    I am 68 years old, have no direct family, only brothers and sisters; so no ties and am VERY fit and free to help; so I volunteer.

                    So, where do we start?

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                    • #11
                      Re: Remember Fukushima?

                      Great response Chris - an honor to share membership with you at the 'tulip.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Remember Fukushima?

                        Originally posted by don View Post
                        Great response Chris - an honor to share membership with you at the 'tulip.
                        The trouble is Don, it may be an empty offer. without funding, I am but a voice in the wilderness.

                        What worries me is, if I can see it; why not the Japanese?

                        This is surely on a par with the oldest problem in a war, equipment blocking the road. The answer is obvious, just push it to one side and get on with it.... All I have done, in reality, is show how the problem should be faced. But if no one takes up the challenge to fund the exercise and bring us all together, as I said at the start, my offer becomes just an empty jesture.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Remember Fukushima?

                          A good idea Chris. However, if there is any kind of accident or setback, the money/political people at the top have a lot to lose. So for them there is every incentive to do nothing but talk and commission studies about the problem. It's a lot easier to blame someone for something that goes wrong than to blame them for doing nothing considering that the situation is unprecedented. The people in charge can always blame the earthquake, poor construction or design after the fact. Fixing the blame is so much easier than fixing the problem, and it's what politicians and suits do best.
                          "I love a dog, he does nothing for political reasons." --Will Rogers

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                          • #14
                            Re: Remember Fukushima?

                            This still comes back to the same place as before; here, I can see an obvious solution, but this is simply a discussion between a few people on iTulip that is, inevitably, well off to the side of the central debate that must be going on somewhere. The question remains, how do we move this forward?

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                            • #15
                              Re: Remember Fukushima?

                              I have just sent a direct message to the Japan Prime Ministers residence http://www.kantei.go.jp/foreign/index-e.html to ask him to talk to me to coordinate an international team to move the fuel rods to safety. I will keep you all posted.

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