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    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...83F0UF20120416

    (Reuters) - A year ago, in Action Comics, Superman declared plans to renounce his U.S. citizenship.

    "'Truth, justice, and the American way' - it's not enough anymore," the comic book superhero said, after both the Iranian and American governments criticized him for joining a peaceful anti-government protest in Tehran.Last year, almost 1,800 people followed Superman's lead, renouncing their U.S. citizenship or handing in their Green Cards.

    That's a record number since the Internal Revenue Service began publishing a list of those who renounced in 1998. It's also almost eight times more than the number of citizens who renounced in 2008, and more than the total for 2007, 2008 and 2009 combined.
    But not everyone's motivations are as lofty as Superman's. Many say they parted ways with America for tax reasons.

    The United States is one of the only countries to tax its citizens on income earned while they're living abroad. And just as Americans stateside must file tax returns each April - this year, the deadline is Tuesday - an estimated 6.3 million U.S. citizens living abroad brace for what they describe as an even tougher process of reporting their income and foreign accounts to the IRS. For them, the deadline is June.The National Taxpayer Advocate's Office, part of the IRS, released a report in December that details the difficulties of filing taxes from overseas. It cites heavy paperwork, a lack of online filing options and a dearth of local and foreign-language resources.For those wishing to legally escape the filing requirements, the only way is to formally renounce their U.S. citizenship. Last year, IRS records show that at least 1,788 people did, and that's likely an underestimate.

    The IRS publishes in the Federal Register the names of those who give up their citizenship, and some who renounced say they haven't seen their name on the list yet.
    The State Department said records it keeps differ from those published by the IRS. They indicate that renunciations have remained steady, at about 1,100 each year, said an official.The decision by the IRS to publish the names is referred to by lawyers as "name and shame." That's because those who renounce are seen as willing to give up their citizenship primarily for financial reasons.There's also an "exit tax" for the very rich who choose to leave. During the last 25 years, a number of millionaires and billionaires have renounced their citizenship. Among them: Ted Arison, the late founder of Carnival Cruises, and Michael Dingman, a former Ford Motor Co. director.

    But those of more modest means renounce, too. They say leaving America is about more than money; it's about privacy and red tape.

    LIABILITY, NOT PRIVILEGE

    On April 7, 2011, Peter Dunn raised his right hand before a U.S. consular officer in Toronto and swore that he understood the consequences of giving up his U.S. citizenship. Dunn, a dual U.S.-Canadian citizen who has lived outside the United States since 1986, says he renounced because he felt American citizenship had become more of a liability than a privilege.
    As an American, Dunn had to file tax returns and report all of his bank accounts - even joint accounts and his Canadian retirement fund. If he didn't, he would be breaking U.S. law and could face penalties of up to $100,000 or 50 percent of his undeclared accounts, whichever is larger. Dunn says he was tired of tracking IRS policy changes, and he had no intention of returning to the United States. Renouncing his citizenship, as he puts it, was "a no-brainer.""If it was just me then it would be one thing," says Dunn, a part-time investor who worried that having to share information with the IRS would deter future business partners - and upset his wife, who is Canadian. "Disclosing joint accounts I hold with my wife and anyone I ever want to do business with - that's just too much. My wife's account is none of their business."Dunn, who blogs about expatriation, takes issue with being characterized as a tax evader. He says the taxes he pays in Canada are higher than what he would pay in the United States, and he says he had always complied with the IRS before renouncing. But, Dunn says, the IRS approach to enforcing compliance is misguided. "It's making life difficult for a lot of people," he says. "It's driving us away."

    OLD, NEW REGULATIONS

    Dunn is referring to two filing requirements that affect Americans abroad: the Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts - which has been around since 1970 but now carries penalties for noncompliance - and the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act, passed in 2010 with the aim of reducing offshore tax evasion.
    The first regulation requires all Americans, including those living abroad, with at least $10,000 in overseas bank accounts, to file a supplementary form disclosing all of their foreign accounts. That includes any accounts in which the U.S. citizen has a financial interest. That could include a joint account with a spouse or child, accounts for corporations in which the American owns more than 50 percent of the value of shares of stock, or any trust or estate that benefits the U.S. citizen.

    The tax compliance act - the newer law - asks foreign financial institutions such as banks, hedge funds, and private equity funds to provide the IRS with information on U.S. clients.The United States and five European Union countries recently announced their intent to allow institutions to report the information through their own governments, rather than directly to the IRS. Institutions that do not comply will be subject to a 30 percent withholding tax on certain U.S.-sourced payments and proceeds of property sales beginning in the 2013 tax year - for instance, dividends on investments in U.S. companies.

    Some expatriates say they were unaware of the first regulation for years and even decades. In 2008, the IRS received only 218,840 such filings. American nationality law grants citizenship to almost everyone born in the United States or born abroad to American parents, regardless of how much time they've spent in the United States. Many may not even know the extent of their U.S. ties.
    In 2004, the stakes for noncompliance rose. Failure to file meant potential fines and criminal charges. Americans abroad can be punished for noncompliance even if they owed no income tax - and IRS data show that most of them don't owe money.Income up to $95,100 isn't taxed under a rule called the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion. In 2009, the income cap was $91,400, and 88 percent of all taxpayers claiming the foreign earned income exclusion owed nothing. Since 2008, the IRS has offered several voluntary-disclosure grace periods during which expatriates can file back taxes without facing criminal charges - but with the possibility of incurring penalties.

    Marylouise Serrato, head of American Citizens Abroad, a nonprofit organization based in Geneva, says that many members feel scared about reporting requirements they did not know existed. Their disenchantment, she says, is pushing some to renounce."Americans abroad are terrified. We've had people pay tens of thousands of dollars in fines. We've had people … pay huge amounts of back taxes," she says. "Up to this point, we never heard of anyone renouncing, or if they did, they didn't talk about it," says Serrato, who says her group does not advocate renunciation."Now," she says, "we're seeing a lot of people speak openly about it and come to us for information."Congress is taking note. "While I fully support measures that reduce fraud and address offshore havens, the U.S. should not have policies that place undue burdens on legitimate Americans abroad," says Representative Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., and the chair of the Congressional Americans Abroad Caucus. Maloney says she has taken the matter to the Department of the Treasury, which oversees the IRS.

    'TOO EXPENSIVE TO KEEP'

    Lawyers report that banking is a big reason why people renounce. "I hear about banking problems again and again and again," says Phil Hodgen, an attorney who has been helping Americans expatriate since 2008. The new reporting rules, he says, pose "a huge administrative burden. It's made Americans too expensive to keep."Francisca N. Mordi, vice president and senior tax counsel at the American Bankers Association, says she has received a number of calls from Americans in Europe complaining about banks closing their accounts. "They're going to drop Americans like hot potatoes," Mordi says. "The foreign banks are upset enough about the regulations that they're saying they just won't keep American customers, and it's giving (Americans living abroad) a lot of sleepless nights."Taxpayer complaints sometimes make their way to Nina Olson, the U.S. taxpayer advocate for the IRS, who addressed some of the international tax issues in a December report."The complexity of international tax law, combined with the administrative burden placed on these taxpayers, creates an environment where taxpayers who are trying their best to comply simply cannot," the report reads. "For some, this means paying more U.S. tax than is legally required, while others may be subject to steep civil and criminal penalties.

    For some U.S. taxpayers abroad, the tax requirements are so confusing and the compliance burden so great that they give up their U.S. citizenship."
    In the same report, the IRS responded to the criticism, stating that the penalties for failing to report foreign accounts issued in its guidelines are maximums, not set amounts. It said the agency will not fine filers if the lapse is due to a "reasonable cause." The IRS also acknowledged the need for more public awareness, and it detailed its efforts to inform Americans overseas through fact sheets, a telephone help line and Twitter.The IRS did not respond to requests for comment.

    WOMEN IN A TOUGH SPOT


    Around the world, American women's clubs - known for promoting American culture overseas through Fourth of July celebrations and Thanksgiving dinners - are growing empathetic toward those who renounce.
    The American Women's Club in Dusseldorf, for instance, now links to renunciation information on its Website. The Federation of American Women's Clubs Overseas has opposed new IRS rules, in part because the rules were pushing members to give up their citizenship. "The candidates are not tax-evaders or un-patriots," reads the organization's last annual report.In Europe, American women say they feel pressure to renounce even from their husbands."American women married to non-Americans are only just now finding out that they have to disclose years and years of income and accounts," says Lucy Stensland Laederich, a leader of the women's club who lives in Bordeaux, France.Laederich has been acting as the group's liaison with politicians and bureaucrats in Washington, D.C., and plans to attend a meeting to discuss expatriate tax issues with Maloney and Treasury Department officials on Tuesday."When they decide to come clean and report everything," she says, "they have to go ask their husbands for all of their bank information, retirement funds, and investment accounts, everything."Some of their husbands, Laederich says, refuse to hand over information to the IRS. That leaves the women in difficult predicaments."Your options are to ignore the IRS and stick your head in the sand; take your name off of all the accounts and live in a completely cash economy; divorce; or renounce U.S. citizenship," Laederich says. "We've seen all of these things happen."

    DIVORCE OR DISCLOSE

    Genette Eysselinck, a friend of Laederich's, renounced early this year. Her husband, a European Union civil servant, saw no good reason to share his account information with the IRS, she says. And after considering all her options, Eysselinck decided that renouncing was the best path.
    "It created a lot of tensions around here," she says. "Divorce seemed a little extreme, so I asked myself, 'What am I gaining as an American?' And the cons outweighed the pros."Eysselinck was born in Fort Bragg, North Carolina, and says she grew up on military bases all over the world. Her father, she says, was an Air Force pilot. Eysselinck has lived abroad for decades and no longer has any close connections in the United States.She spent her final months as an American collecting paperwork and filing tax returns from the past five years, even though she says she owed nothing. Her last act as a citizen was to swear before an American flag that she renounced all ties with the United States. She called the process "gut wrenching.""I grew up in a military family where patriotic feeling was very strong" Eysselinck says. "I'm amazed at how terrible I felt renouncing. But it was the only way to get them off my back. It's very distressing and time consuming to keep up with all the paperwork. But if it's this bad when I'm 64, how bad will it be when I'm 74?"(Reporting By Atossa Araxia Abrahamian; editing by Blake Morrison and Michael Williams)

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    Re: More American renouncing their citizenship than ever?

    A Tax Lawyer friend of mine has been talking about people renouncing their U.S. citizenship for nearly a year now.
    He added one point that the article fails to mention, every person on that list (Federal Register) is considered rich.

    Something to consider, you don’t make the list unless you are rich and the numbers are under reported.


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      Re: More American renouncing their citizenship than ever?

      this is the guy's web site:
      http://isaacbrocksociety.com/author/petrostelos/

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        Re: More American renouncing their citizenship than ever?

        If you declare taxable earnings per account, wherever that account is and in whatever bank, then you are declaring your foreign bank accounts. Let's not keep declaring over and over, because one compilation of taxable earnings from foreign bank accounts should ( and is ) enough. A declaration/compilation is a declaration/compilation is a declaration/compilation.... End of story.

        In other words, let the IRS make all of the copies of your declaration/ compilation list that they want to, because you have complied as best as you can with American tax law.... No judge in America would let the IRS harass you any further, especially living out of the country and paying income tax wherever you reside. Double-taxation and double-taxation attempts by the IRS would get thrown out of court, or so I think.
        Last edited by Starving Steve; April 17, 2012, 06:39 PM.

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        • #5
          Re: More American renouncing their citizenship than ever?

          and how much will it cost you to get that resolved?

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            Re: More American renouncing their citizenship than ever?

            Originally posted by doom&gloom View Post
            and how much will it cost you to get that resolved?
            https://renounceuscitizenship.wordpr...of-the-market/



            U.S. citizenship has been priced out of the market

            The costs of U.S. tax and reporting compliance

            I have written a number of posts on the problem of compliance with U.S. tax and reporting requirements . Most people want to be and remain in compliance. My previous posts have opined that: the IRS and lawyer fear mongering coupled with complexity have made compliance difficult. The simple fact is that most people don’t know what to do. Taxpayers do NOT trust the IRS. Furthermore, the “not knowing what to do” is having a terrible effect on people’s lives (to the extent that they still have one). These views are echoed by the Taxpayer Advocate Report to Congress.

            Interestingly, I realize that none of my posts has focused on what may be the single biggest obstacle to compliance.

            It’s the cost stupid!!

            I was alerted to this rather obvious point in a blog comment by Calgary lawyer, Roy Berg. He commented that:

            “Perhaps this is worthy of a separate entry on your blog, though it is apropos to the high cost (in terms of professional fees) to particiapte in the OVDI and to bring unfiled returns current:

            The Taxpayer Advocate Service report to the US Congress (released on January 11, 2012) is critical of the complexity and punative nature of US tax law as it applies to US citizens residing abroad. Page 154 of the report compares the average cost to prepare returns for taxpayers residing in the US and those residing abroad.

            For taxpayers residing abroad return preparation can cost $1,000 to $2,000 PER RETURN (the report cites two separate studies). For taxpayers residing in the US return preparation ranges from $173 and $373 per return.

            This means that participants in the OVDI (which requires filings for 8 years) should expect to incur preparation fees of between $8,000 – $16,000 for INDIVIDUAL RETURNS ONLY. If the taxpayer has a TFSA, trust, private company, private partnership, etc. these require additonal returns, which would multiply the return preparation cost accordingly.”

            http://renounceuscitizenship.wordpre...here/#comments

            At this point, given the complexity of U.S. tax filings, the IRS requirement that paid preparers must be registered with the IRS, and the shortage of people willing to take this on (one CA told me that he simply will no longer accept American clients), I suspect that this $1000 – $2000 will be for the most simple returns. (For those who are either an employee or unemployed.) If you are carrying on a business (particularly if it is a corporation) it will cost much more. What does this mean in terms of the costs of cleaning up past non-compliance? What will be the accounting and legal fees? The simple reality is that most U.S. citizens do not have the money to bring themselves into compliance. Do the arithmetic and see what the minimum cost will be. The IRS has recently reopened OVDI. There are many U.S. citizens who simply cannot afford the financial cost of entering this program. What are they to do? They will simply drop out of the system and never return to the U.S. They will never apply for a U.S. passport. Those who do not currently have another citizenship will become citizens of another country. In other words, they will vanish.

            Furthermore, once you pay the costs of coming into compliance, these financial costs must be incurred on an ongoing basis. The fear of IRS terrorism and anxiety will continue for life. Let’s consider this cost on an annual basis. Assume an annual cost of $2000. Tax preparation fees are not deductible under Canadian law. This means that the $2000 must be paid with after tax funds. Income tax rates are high in Canada. Assuming a combined federal/provincial rate of 33% this would mean that $3000 of your annual income is required to fund your U.S. citizenship. What does this mean? It is the cost of a vacation. It could be the cost of your car insurance. It is money that can go into your child’s RESP. It is $3000 that most people simply don’t have. Where does the $3000 go? For the most part to fill out forms which demonstrate that you owe no tax. In addition to the $3000 there is the tremendous cost of LCUs (Life Credit Units) and the tremendous wear and tear of U.S. tax and IRS anxiety.

            Can you afford the financial cost filling out forms for the U.S. government? Can you afford the cost of not being able to do proper retirement planning in your country of residence? Can you afford the emotional cost and worry? Can you afford the time it takes to complete U.S. tax forms? Are you prepared to deal with the possible effects of U.S. citizenship on your marriage (if you are married to a non-U.S. citizen)? Can you afford to be discriminated against in the employment market because you are a U.S. citizen? Can you afford to deal with U.S. taxes on unearned investment income?

            Only the wealthy can afford this cost. That said, the wealthy probably see far greater risks to their wealth. For the wealthy the U.S. estate tax is a huge problem. It is quite understandable that more and more people are renouncing their U.S. citizenship. It is no longer an issue of patriotism and it may be patriotic to renounce U.S. citizenship. It is no longer an issue of having emotional ties to the U.S. It is an issue of protecting yourself. U.S. citizenship is a very serious and dangerous “life liability”.

            And we haven’t even considered the effects of FATCA …

            FATCA – the neutron bomb of the financial system – will turn U.S. citizens into “untouchables” outside of the United States. U.S. citizens will have trouble getting basic banking services. Non-U.S. citizens will not want U.S. citizens as business partners or shareholders. The cost of IRS compliance is too great and too risky. In other words, if you think things are bad now – just wait until January 1, 2013.

            U.S. citizens are being driven to renounce U.S. citizenship.

            But, even this comes at great cost.

            The Possible Costs of Renouncing Your U.S. Citizenship

            When it comes to renunciation: if you have a net worth of under $2,000,000 you can make the break cleanly (assuming your tax filings are up to date). If your net worth is more than two million you are subjected to the exit tax. Those of you who:

            - have a net worth of less than two million dollars

            - who are unwilling to continue paying the ongoing costs of U.S. citizenship (including the estate tax)

            - do not want to inflict the problems of U.S. citizenship on a non-U.S. spouse

            - do not want to inflict U.S. citizenship on your children

            - who see no other offsetting value to U.S. citizenship

            should consider renouncing at the earliest opportunity.

            Remember that the effects of inflation will increase the value of your assets to the two million mark. In Toronto and Vancouver a nice but unspectacular house could cost two million dollars!

            Renunciation is not for everyone – Who are the people who are unlikely to renounce?

            Renunciation is a very personal decision. It is clear that the IRS is “hunting” U.S. citizens living outside the U.S.

            Therefore, my guess is that:

            - those who have little or nothing too lose and who don’t mind paying the future compliance costs will be less likely to renounce (those who are employees or are unemployed and few assets)

            - those with something to lose (everybody else) will be putting a “renunciation plan” into effect while it is still possible

            I recently solicited reasons to remain a U.S. citizen. Admittedly this question was posted on the blog of the Isaac Brock Society. That said, few people were able to articulate any clear benefits to U.S. citizenship. I predict that renouncing U.S. citizenship will be a growth industry

            There are few benefits to U.S. citizenship.

            There are substantial costs to U.S. citizenship.

            This is all because of citizenship-based taxation

            All of these problems are rooted in the fact that the U.S. has a system of citizenship-based taxation. Why? Nobody knows. Certainly the U.S. doesn’t know. In fact, citizenship-based taxation is harmful to the U.S. economy. Citizenship-based taxation is eroding U.S. capital. Citizenship based taxation hurts the economy of the United States of America.

            My advice: Stop citizenship-based taxation and repeal FATCA.

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              Re: More American renouncing their citizenship than ever?

              I was referring to the court fights to keep your rights, etc....

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                Re: More American renouncing their citizenship than ever?

                Originally posted by Starving Steve View Post
                If you declare taxable earnings per account, wherever that account is and in whatever bank, then you are declaring your foreign bank accounts. Let's not keep declaring over and over, because one compilation of taxable earnings from foreign bank accounts should ( and is ) enough. A declaration/compilation is a declaration/compilation is a declaration/compilation.... End of story.

                In other words, let the IRS make all of the copies of your declaration/ compilation list that they want to, because you have complied as best as you can with American tax law.... No judge in America would let the IRS harass you any further, especially living out of the country and paying income tax wherever you reside. Double-taxation and double-taxation attempts by the IRS would get thrown out of court, or so I think.
                I completely understand your frustration; however, a bit of advice.

                Many before you have lost everything they had launching such arguments Don Quixote style with great bravado against the IRS in tax court, district courts and circuit courts of appeal and all end up mortally wounded, financially and emotionally. The Internal Revenue Code is not a logical document and was not concocted with any kind of moral justice in mind.

                Instead, think of it as a toxic waste dump of special interests groups pandering their elected (and paid for) representatives in congress for special tax benefits. Tax law is nothing more than crony capitalism at its finest and is the wrong battle ground to affect any kind of change based on moral arguments.

                Remember that the Internal Revenue System is an administrative function who's sole purpose is to collect fiat dollars from citizens (no matter where they reside in the world) thereby binding them to the fiat USD system. It's an important part of protecting USD hegemony as the world's reserve currency (right up there in importance with enforcing the petro-dollar scheme, e.g. Libya). This system, and the federal employees and judges who manage and earn their livelihoods from it, are well prepared and funded to crush dissenters who come forward with "frivolous" claims.

                The system will not change until things have deteriorated to the point that everyone is kneeling at the altar. Not before.

                In the meantime, your best bet is to keep your head down and engage in aggressive tax "compliance" with an intelligent accountant.

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