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    Posted below, with kind permission of the author, is the transcript of James K. Galbraith's keynote lecture to the 5th annual "Dijon" conference on Post Keynesian economics, meeting at Roskilde University near Copenhagen, Denmark on May 13, 2011. Our thanks to Other News Network at http://www.other-net.info/index.php for making available the transcription from audio of this important lecture.


    It's of course a great privilege for me to be here in this role and especially on the occasion of the 75th anniversary of the publication of the General Theory.

    Two years ago, as you may recall, our profession enjoyed a moment of ferment.

    Economists who had built their careers on inflation targeting, rational expectations, representative agents, the efficient markets hypothesis, dynamic stochastic general equilibrium models, the virtues of deregulation and privatization and the Great Moderation were forced by events momentarily to shut up. The fact that they had been absurdly, conspicuously and even in some cases admittedly wrong imposed even a little humility on a few. One senior American legal policy intellectual, a fellow traveler of the Chicago School, announced his conversion to Keynesianism as though it were news.

    The apogee of this moment was the publication in the New York Times Sunday Magazine of Paul Krugman's essay, How The Economists Got It So Wrong. And in it, I noticed, Krugman admitted, and I'll quote, that:
    ... a few economists challenged the assumption of rational behavior, questioned the belief that financial markets can be trusted and pointed to the long history of financial crises that had devastating economic consequences. But they were swimming against the tide, unable to make much headway against a pervasive and, in retrospect, foolish complacency.
    And I must say, looking out on this audience, it would be fair to say that there were more than just a few and it's a pleasure to be here among you.

    In keeping with mainstream practice, Krugman named almost nobody. So, in a reply essay entitled, Who Were Those Economists, Anyway?, I described the neglected, ignored and denied second and third generation work largely, though not entirely, in the tradition of Keynes which did get it right. I could have named many more than I did including many in this room.

    Let me begin therefore here by distinguishing between the three major lines of Keynesian thought that did in fact get it right-that had bearing and application on the events through which we have just passed. And I will honor the well remembered and beloved by identifying these lines with Wynne Godley, Hyman Minsky and Galbraith père.

    Godley, of course, worked in the Keynes, Kuznets, Kalecki, Kaldor tradition of macroeconomic models attentive to national income accounting identities and to consistency between stocks and flows. The virtue of this approach is clarity and a comparative lack of overreaching ambition. Models of this type say nothing false which may not seem like much, but it's a huge advantage over the starting position in mainstream economics which consists of nothing which is true. And the models direct you to check whether factual claims make sense given everything that they may imply.

    Thus, that the federal surpluses in the United States' budget in the late 1990s implied unsustainable private debts was clear to those working in this tradition at the time. Just as, the fact that household debt burdens were again unsustainable was clear in the 2000s. Again, perhaps it seems like not much, because it is simply an argument rooted in the national income accounts, until you remember that policy in a country like the United States is very strongly influenced by the macroeconomic forecasting of institutions like the Congressional Budget Office which impose no such consistency constraints on their models and do not check to see whether forecasts in one area imply reasonable and plausible outcomes in another. For this reason, much of that work is essentially nonsense.

    Hyman Minsky developed an economics of financial instability, of instability bred by stability itself, the intrinsic consequence of overconfidence mixed with ambition and greed. Minsky's approach, very different from Godley's, is conceptual rather than statistical. A key virtue is that it puts finance at the center of economic analysis, analytically inseparable from what is sometimes called real economic activity, for the simple reason that capitalistic economies are run by banks. And, of course, his second great insight is into the dynamics of phase transitions: the famous movement from the hedge position to the speculative position to the intrinsically unsustainable, doomed to collapse ponzi position which arises from within the system and is subject actually to formalization in the endogenous instabilities of non-linear dynamical models.

    To grasp what Minsky is about, it seems to me, is to go immediately beyond the coarse notion of the "Minsky moment," a concept which implies falsely that there are also non-Minsky moments. It is to recognize that the financial system is both necessary and dangerous, that strict financial regulation is both indispensable and imperfect. Right away the idiocy of a concept like the "Great Moderation" becomes apparent. Just as with any machinery from an automobile to a nuclear reactor, a long record of stable performance does not prove that the controls and the backup systems are perfect anymore than it can show that they are unnecessary. Argument otherwise, whether made by the head of the central bank or an applicant for a license extension before the Nuclear Regulatory Commission is the mark of a crank.

    The Galbraithian line, is allied to and descended from Keynes in the same sense that my father's work was; accepting the central role of aggregate effective demand, the national income accounts, the credit circuit view of economic life and the financial instability hypothesis. But, it is also embedded in a legal institutionalist framework, rooted in pragmatism, framed by Thorstein Veblen and John Commons, forged in the political economy of the New Deal in the United States. This tradition emphasizes the role played in financial crisis by the breakdown of law and the failure of governance and regulation - and the role played by technology as a tool in the hands of finance for the purpose of breaking down and evading the law.

    I want to stress this today, and not just for family reasons, because I think it remains the least familiar of the three, I would say, broadly Keynesian lines of analysis are most pertinent for an understanding of what we've been through and are still going through. When you engage the mainstream on the national income accounts, at least they know what the damn things are. And these days you can even get, though for who knows how much longer, a respectful mention of Minsky even from someone like Larry Summers, if not any sign that he has actually read him.

    What you cannot get - not at a meeting sponsored by the International Monetary Fund, not from the participants at the Institute for New Economic Thinking - is any serious discussion of contract law and fraud. I've tried, repeatedly. No one will deny, in response to the question, the role that fraud played in the financial debacle. How could they? But they won't discuss it either. And it seems to me, this reflects a logic which bears pursuing.

    Why not? Why is this one of the great taboo topics of our modern economic history? Well, personal complicity, frankly, plays a role among present and former government officials, regulators, consultants and the academics who advised them and those who either played the markets or took fees from those who did.

    At the INET conference at Bretton Woods, a few weeks ago, Mr. Summers stated that he was - it was a wonderful phrase - that he was not among those who regard financial innovation as necessarily evil. I took a note as I heard him say that, I thought that really bears quoting.

    There is a web of negligence and complicity here. Of culpability, abetted by the way universities are funded and by what they teach.

    But it's more than that. Let me try to frame it in somewhat more abstract terms. I would say that the commodity is the foundation stone of conventional economics. That the theory of exchange requires the commodification of tradable artifacts.

    Without that, there is no supply and demand. A world of contracts, each backed by a separate and distinct set of promises each only as good as the commitments made specifically and the ability of the laws and courts to enforce them, is a different sort of world. Just because you can call a set of such contracts by a name, "collateralized debt obligation" or "credit default swap", and just because you can create something - you may even be able to create something called an exchange to trade them on - does not make them into commodities with a meaningful market price.

    Complexity here is what is going to defeat the market with, in principle, infinite variability, and in practice, more distinct features than one can keep up with. In great volume, contracts of these kinds are per se hyper-vulnerable to fraud.

    Examples range from the New Jersey phone company that simply printed made-up fees on its bills hoping that no one would notice and for a long time nobody did, to the fact that almost no one at the insurance giant AIG realized that the CDS contracts they were selling contained a cash collateral clause, something that would cost them billions at a time when they didn't have access to the cash. They range from unnoticed provisions permitting CDO managers to substitute worse for better mortgages in previously sold packages without notifying the investors, to the Mortgage Electronic Registration System and the pervasive incentive to document fraud in the foreclosure process.

    The concession that fraud was present in this process is like the phrase, "Minsky moment." Although true and although it concedes something, it doesn't begin to cover the case. Even to say that fraud overwhelmed the system doesn't go far enough.

    I highly recommend to you, if you haven't done so, that you read the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission Report just published in the United States, or the even more recent report of the Senate Permanent Committee on Investigations, the many reports of the Congressional Oversight Panel and the report of the Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Fund, SIGTARP. These are, by the way, very, very good documents prepared by serious public servants and it's plain as day. Fraud was not a bug in the system, it was a feature. The word itself, along with abusive, egregious, reckless and even criminogenic suffuses these accounts of what went on.

    Godleyans teach that stocks can not be separated from flows. Minskyans teach that finance can not be separated from reality. And my father's tradition is that the legal and the technological can not be separated. The financial world, as it exists, has nothing to do with the commodity world of real exchange economics with its delicate balance of interacting forces. It is the world of technology at play in the form of quasi mass produced legal instruments of uncontrolled complexity. It is the world of, in other words, of evolutionary specialization in the never ending dance of predator and prey. In nature, when predators achieve an overwhelming advantage, the prey suffer a population crash, from which the predators in turn suffer later on. In economics it's a financial crash, but process and dynamics are essentially similar.

    Corporate fraud is not new; financial fraud is not new. What was new here was the scale and complexity of debt obligations, backed by mortgages. Mortgages are not like, say, common stocks which although issued in the millions are each an identical claim on a company's net worth. Mortgages are each a claim on the revenue stream of a different household, backed by homes of a diversity made irreducible by the simple fact that each one is in a different place. Long-term mortgages have existed since the New Deal, in the U.S., but they were rendered manageable for decades by their simple uniform structure, their substantial margin of safety and the fact that the secondary markets were public and imposed standards on what could be issued and on what could be passed on to the agencies created for refunding those markets. And what this meant was that supervision was possible. There could be a well understood code covering what was right and what was wrong along side practitioners who understood the ethics of the matter and enforcement officers who could work with them fairly smoothly for the most part and intervene when abuses became apparent.

    In the computer age, on the other hand, we entered the world of private labeled securitization, of negative amortization payment optional, Adjustable Rate Mortgage with a piggyback to cover the down payment. Oh, and documentation optional.

    There was a private vocabulary, well-known in the industry, covering these loans and related financial products: liars' loans, NINJA loans (the borrowers had no income, no job or assets), neutron loans (loans that would explode destroying the people but leaving the buildings intact), toxic waste (the residue of the securitization process). I suggest that this tells you that those who sold these products knew or suspected that their line of work was not one hundred percent honest. Think of the restaurant where the wait staff refers to the food as scum, sludge and sewage.

    To learn as we do from the excellent book by Bethany McLean and Joe Nocera, All the Devils are Here, that at the dominant mortgage originator in the United States, Ameriquest, the office chiefs fed their sales staff crystal methamphetamine to keep them going. It just adds a touch of telling detail, as does the fact that the founder of Ameriquest ended his career as the United States Ambassador to the Netherlands.

    Rendering such complex and numberless debt instruments comparable requires a statistical approach based on indicators. And that launches into a world which was not imaginable in, say, 1927. The world of credit scores, ratings and algorithms, a world of derivative and super derivative instruments of sliced and diced residential mortgage backed securities, collateralized debt obligations, synthetic CDOs, synthetic CDOs squared, credit default swaps - all designed to secure that triple-A rating and to place the instruments which had been counterfeited to begin with - they looked like mortgages but were not really mortgages. Laundered, that is to say, transformed from the trash that they were into a triple-A security and fenced, which is to say, sold to the legitimate investment market by an intermediary called a commercial or an investment bank. To place these counterfeit, laundered and fenced instruments into the hands of of the mark. The mark. And who was the mark? Michael Lewis, in the The Big Short tells us who the mark was. The mark had a name in the industry, they would say, "who are we selling this stuff to?" And the answer would come back, "Düsseldorf."

    The Texas institutionalist, Clarence Ayres, to bring you a voice from my home territory in Austin, Texas, stressed most strongly the role of technology and the irreversible contribution of new tools to the production process. In finance, it's the algorithm that is this tool, it seems to me. A radically cheap substitute for underwriting, a device for converting the financial gain into a computerized casino in the strict sense where one can never be sure by how much the house is bending the rules. We observed only, as I've already mentioned, that no one at AIG FP knew they had cash collateral clauses in those contracts, that the holders of synthetic CDOs did not know that they were getting a worse mortgage substituted for a better one, that the ratings model did not factor in the default risk when mortgages were issued with two-year teaser rates and so on and so forth.

    Keynes, I think, understood these issues very well so far as they went in his time as an active player in the speculative markets. And this is what led him to argue that those markets should be small, expensive to access and restricted to those who could afford to play and lose. He did not think they should be repressed entirely, partly because he enjoyed them and partly because as he famously said, it is better for a man to tyrannize over his bank balance than over his fellow man. But in Keynesian terms, it seems to me, what we have seen since the financial crash should be no surprise at all. That is to say, the failure of the world economy and particularly of the financialized economies of Europe and North America, to recover from this debacle is a product of the character of the debacle itself. Absolute distrust, leading to absolute liquidity preference is the incurable consequence, it seems to me, of financial fraud.

    I say incurable. This is the diagnosis of an irreversible disease. The corruption and collapse of the rule of law, in the financial sphere, is basically irreparable. It's not just that restoring trust takes a long time. It's that under the new technological order in this field, it can not be done. The technologies are designed to sow and foster distrust and that is the consequence of using them. The recent experience proves this, it seems to me. And therefore there can be no return to the way things were before. In other words, we are at the end of the illusion of a market place in the financial sphere. Let me take this analysis and bring it to bear momentarily on Europe. We speak in a common place way these days of the Greek crisis, the Irish crisis, the Portuguese crisis and so forth, as though these were distinct financial events. This fosters the impression that each can be resolved by appropriate agreement between the creditors, headquartered in Frankfurt, Brussels, Berlin, Paris, and the debtors taken one by one. Good behavior, taking the form of a suitable austerity will be rewarded by a return to normal credit conditions and market access. That, at least, is the official presumption. The financial market, in this imagery, is severe but fair, she cracks the whip on the profligate but praises and rewards the prim.

    But that Greece has a weak tax system and a big civil service was hardly news. It's a fact that's been true for decades, overlooked in the good times and surfaced when convenient. That Ireland had a housing boom that was intrinsically unsustainable was surely hardly news. The initial shock to Europe didn't come from the discovery of these facts, it came from American mortgage markets. When European banks and other investors realized the extent of their losses, beginning in late 2008, they looked for ways to protect themselves and they did this as any sensible investor would, by selling the weak assets and buying strong ones: German, French bonds and above all United States treasuries. That is why yields rose on all the small peripheral countries and fell on the big ones despite the very different circumstances in the countries that were badly affected.

    It's obvious that Greece cannot implement the programs demanded of it without crashing its GDP, and driving up its debt to GDP ratio on that account. But even if it could, any event, affecting any European country, or for that matter, some place else in the world, could sink Greece again irrespective of what Greece does. So, there is no national policy solution and no financial market solution. That is the meaning of the negotiations now underway in Luxembourg and elsewhere. There will be a restructuring or a default, and there must be an economic and not merely a financial rescue. And beyond that there obviously must be not only a new European architecture, but a new financial architecture that is not built around the banks as they exist today and the credit markets as they came to exist in the period before the crisis. Either that or the depression in Europe will simply go on and on. Until eventually the European Union falls apart.

    That's what I mean when I say that practically speaking what we're dealing with here and what we need to recognize is not an interruption to a long process of economic growth, a recession or some shock to aggregate demand. It is an incurable disease at the heart of the system.

    Our challenge as Keynesians, now, is to work out the practical implications of this reality and to spell out a course of action. And perhaps the first step that we should take, it seems to me, is clearly to condemn what I'll call the False Keynesianism that came briefly to power with the new Administration in America in 2009.

    In January of that year, as you recall, the new Administration announced the need for stimulus or a recovery program. Without it they calculated unemployment might rise as high as 9% by 2010 before beginning to decline again. With it, they forecast unemployment would be held to 8%, recovery would begin in mid-2009 and by early 2011, that is to say now, unemployment would be down to 7% on its way back to 5% by 2013. It's 9% in the United States, as we speak.

    The forecast was a political and an economic disaster, but in retrospect, it's most interesting for what it tells us about those who made it. Plainly they did not understand, perhaps they did not wish to understand, what was going on. They adopted the assumption of a glide path back to 5% unemployment, which meant that the natural rate of unemployment - the most un-Keynesian and anti-Keynesian concept ever devised in modern economics was built into the mentality and the computer models that they were using. The only issue was the speed of adjustment and whether a little boost would help us get there a little faster. The stimulus package was not meant to provide a substantive response to the crisis, but just to increase that speed of adjustment by a small amount.

    Plainly, in short, there was no real crisis in the minds of those who took office in 2009. There was just an unusually deep recession, a Great Recession it came to be called, and the recession would end. Chairman Bernanke of the Federal Reserve Board said from the beginning, the recession will end, the economy will recover. He did not say how he knew, but when it did he was sure things would return to the normal prosperity of the mid-2000s. It was the mindlessness of output gaps the consensus business cycle forecasting and of Okun's law. The Minsky moment would surely pass.

    This is a bad movie and we have, of course, seen it before. You may recall that in 1960 the Uncle of, as it happens, of Larry Summers, co-invented a concept called the Phillips curve, stipulating on very weak empirical evidence and no clear theory the relationship between the unemployment rate and the rate of inflation. True Keynesians, including my teacher, Nicholas Kaldor, Joan Robinson, Robert Eisner, a great hero of mine, and my father were appalled. The construct was doomed to collapse and when it did, after 1970, the school that most people thought of as Keynesian was swept away in the backwash.

    Today, the failure behind the recovery forecast is conflated with the failure of the stimulus itself and the same thing is happening again. Those who failed most miserably to forewarn against the financial crisis have, as a consequence, regained their voices as scourges of deficits and public debt. There is a chorus of doom as those who once thought the new paradigm could go on forever are now inveighed against living beyond our means and foretell federal bankruptcy and the collapse of the dollar and the world monetary system amongst other scary fairy tales. This includes such luminaries as the leadership of the International Monetary Fund and of all things, the analytical division of Standard and Poor's - an enterprise on which one might hope at least a small amount of modesty might have developed or devolved in the wake of recent events. It would be pathetic if it were not so dangerous. But the fact is, these forces are moving down a highway which has been cleared of obstacles by the retreat, indeed the destruction of the False Keynesian position.
    So it's our task, it seems to me, against the odds, to build a new line of resistance. And I'll wind up by saying that I think that line must have at least the following elements in it:

    First, an understanding of the money accounting relationships, that pertain within societies and between them, so that we cannot be panicked by mere financial ratios into self-destructive social policies or condemn ourselves to lives of economic stagnation and human waste. And in particular I should add, since it's important in Denmark at the moment, to the destruction of social welfare systems and pension systems which provided the foundation of a decent life for a large part of the population for decades.

    Second, an effective analysis of the ongoing debt deflation, the banking debacle and the inadequate fiscal and illusory monetary policy responses so far. In America and in Europe, this is a crisis primarily of banks not of governments and it's for us to call attention to this fact.

    Third, a full analysis of the criminal activity that destroyed the banking sector, including its technological foundation, so as to quell the illusion that these markets can effectively be restored to anything like their form of 4 or 5 years ago. As part of this, obviously, it would be useful to have a renewed commitment to expose crime, to punish the guilty, and enforce the laws. Post Keynesian Economists for a More Effective FBI, I think is a splinter organization I would be happy to sponsor and solicit your membership in.

    Fourth, an understanding of the way in which financial markets interact with the changing geophysics of energy, especially oil, with the commodity markets to choke off economic recovery unless the energy problem is addressed squarely. I think that's something that we're seeing happening now.

    Fifth, a new strategic direction to redesign and rebuild our societies for the challenges of aging, infrastructure, energy, climate change and shared development which we all face. And to create the institutions required to make this happen. That requires, I think, from an intellectual point of view, a merger of the Keynesian, Post-Keynesian and the Institutionalists traditions which is, in fact, something that is already underway.

    Sixth, to achieve these goals by mobilizing human brains and muscles to overcome unemployment and to assure a widely-shared, decent, and reasonably egalitarian society according to the most successful and enduring social models, by which I mean a commitment to the deepest policy principles that Keynes himself held and also an understanding that we should use history as a guide to what has worked and what does not.

    And seventh, the reconstruction of the instruments of public power - the power to spend, the power to tax, the money power and the power to regulate - so as to effectively pursue these goals with democratic checks and balances to prevent the capture of new state institutions by predatory forces. I will not pretend, as Keynes did, that nothing stands in the way but a few old gentlemen in frock coats who require only to be bowled over like nine pins and might enjoy it if they were.

    We should take on this challenge simply as a matter of conscience. We are not contestants for power. It is for us a matter of professional responsibility and civic duty. My friend Bill Black, who has some experience in this area, likes to say, in the words of William of Orange, that it is not necessary to hope in order persevere.
    Thank you very much, for the pleasure and honor of making these remarks.

    James K. Galbraith is Professor of Economics at the Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs and at the Department of Government, University of Texas at Austin. He is also a Senior Scholar with the Levy Economics Institute of Bard College.

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    Re: The Final Death (and Next Life) of John Maynard Keynes by Prof. James K. Galbraith

    My opinion of economists is the same as my opinion of ecologists and high-density city planners: What frauds and a-holes!

    Why did you economists keep tinkering with the economy of the entire world as if it were an experiment, and something to write a doctoral dissertation on? It is as if you believe you know better than the entire world, not to mention, that you are so arrogant as to think you know more than the markets.

    The Late Depression (1937-1939) proved that Keynesian economics did not work. The only things that did work in Keynesian
    economics were public spending for vital capital works projects that added real worth to the economy, not to mention real employment for starving people. Also Keynesian policy worked with providing a safety net in hard times by providing federal deposit insurance for savers, security investors' protection against the bankruptcy of their brokerage firms, medicare for everyone regardless of age ( in most countries ), and social security for the aged. Otherwise, Keynsian economics was a failure, and it was WWII, not Keyne's economics, that lifted the world economy out of depression.

    The Phillips Curve was fantasy, yet economists clung to it, time and time again, as if it were meaningful. The severe recession of 1979-1982 demonstrated that when inflation is stopped, unemployment decreases because the real GDP increases and businesses require workers. As usual, the economists were totally wrong: Full-employment does NOT cause inflation, as the Phillips Curve idiots would have you believe, but unemployment causes inflation, and just the opposite of what the Phillips Curve idiots would have you believe.......The short 1971 recession proved that as well, but as I wrote, economists never learn and cling to their own fantasy world.

    The stagflation of the 1970s proved that inflation produces unemployment and stagnation. The stagflation of the '70s proved that no amount of inflation was healthy for the economy and that inflation fed-upon itself by accelerating. Instead, a strong currency (of rising value) was the best remedy for a stagnant economy. In other words, Keynes had it wrong, totally.

    Monetarism came as a remedy to the stagflation of the '70s and the ultimate run on gold at the end of the '70s. Setting interest rates for savers at 3% real ( 3% over the rate of inflation ) cured the stagflation. But the monetarists were wrong in thinking that they could measure the money supply because it was impossible to measure the quantity of money in all of its diverse forms, and it was impossible to measure the velocity of money. Overall though, monetarists worked miracles for the economy of the world, and inflation disappeared and unemployment dropped to almost zero in the industrial world.

    Then came Alan Greenspan and his right-hand man, Ben Bernanke. And to be damned, they undid everything the monetarists did. To speed-up economic growth, they started lowering interest rates toward zero ( negative interest rates in real terms ).
    Also, to speed-up economic growth, they repealed the Glass-Stiegal Act of the 1930s and let banks invest in the stock market. Also, to speed-up economic growth in the 2000s, they ran deficits as Keynes would have done.

    Now deep in the Great Recession, they cling to the failed theories of Keynes, running record deficits, taking interest rates down to zero, debasing the currency and printing money to remedy the calamity. And no surprise, Bernanke and Greenspan's tinkering has deepened and prolonged the Great Recession.

    Low interest rates ( cheap money ) caused the housing bubble, not to mention: the no-doc mortgages, neutron loans, neg-am mortgages, NINJA mortgages, liar loans, mortgages-backed securities, credit-default swaps, plus a host of derivatives and derivative games and outright criminal fraud. But even now, the likes of Bernanke and Greenspan, Krugman, Geitner, and all the rest of the economists are clueless about why this Great Recession has happened....... And their tinkering goes on, as if they can thread a needle with their misguided policies. Meanwhile, the economy festers and sinks.

    Even after this Great Recession, James K. Galbraith above, suggests returning to a modern form of Keynesian economics to-day. Again, economists refuse to learn from history and their past mistakes. The economic conference in Copenhagen proves the point.

    Don't tell these economists that the world is saturated with debt and drowning in currency, and that the world economy does not suffer from having too little demand for goods and services. Rather, the world economy is suffering from inflation, too much debt, too much paper money, loose and misguided monetary policies, and now consequent economic stagnation--- much like in the 1970s but worse still.
    Last edited by Starving Steve; August 12, 2011, 09:56 PM.

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      Re: The Final Death (and Next Life) of John Maynard Keynes by Prof. James K. Galbraith

      Galbraith makes useful points, but it takes a special kind of ideologue to analyze the crisis in the bloated, price-fixed, subsidized government Zaibatsu that we call "the financial sector" and rack it up mainly to the baleful influence of free-market economists.

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        Re: The Final Death (and Next Life) of John Maynard Keynes by Prof. James K. Galbraith

        I read this last week and many comments about it. I don't think he is "racking it up to the baleful influence of free-market economists."
        Galbraith racks it up to fraud and oligarchy. The so-called free-market economists are just cheerleaders.

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          Re: The Final Death (and Next Life) of John Maynard Keynes by Prof. James K. Galbraith

          Originally posted by Thailandnotes View Post
          I read this last week and many comments about it. I don't think he is "racking it up to the baleful influence of free-market economists."
          Galbraith racks it up to fraud and oligarchy. The so-called free-market economists are just cheerleaders.
          +1, as I also read it and many comments on it.

          And, welcome to iTulip's forum, fisher. Given your long history with iTulip, I'd guess you have some interesting observations to share with this community.

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            Re: The Final Death (and Next Life) of John Maynard Keynes by Prof. James K. Galbraith

            Originally posted by Thailandnotes View Post
            I read this last week and many comments about it. I don't think he is "racking it up to the baleful influence of free-market economists."
            Galbraith racks it up to fraud and oligarchy. The so-called free-market economists are just cheerleaders.
            If interest rates were 8% nominal for savers at the bank or on U.S. i-bonds ( 5% inflation compensation + 3% real return ), there would not be fraud, and the oligarchy would retreat. Along with inflation, cheap money breeds disease.

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              Re: The Final Death (and Next Life) of John Maynard Keynes by Prof. James K. Galbraith

              Originally posted by SS
              My opinion of economists is the same as my opinion of ecologists and high-density city planners: What frauds and a-holes!

              Why did you economists keep tinkering with the economy of the entire world as if it were an experiment, and something to write a doctoral dissertation on? It is as if you believe you know better than the entire world, not to mention, that you are so arrogant as to think you know more than the markets.
              I think you should re-read the article.

              What Galbraith writes about is specifically how the discipline of economics has been corrupted - something which others have noted such as Dr. Michael Hudson.

              Thus you might consider to be clear which economists are in question - especially since the Phillips Curve is specifically singled out by Galbraith as the product of said corrupted school of economic thought.

              Originally posted by fisher
              Galbraith makes useful points, but it takes a special kind of ideologue to analyze the crisis in the bloated, price-fixed, subsidized government Zaibatsu that we call "the financial sector" and rack it up mainly to the baleful influence of free-market economists.
              Interesting sleeper account.

              Interesting also that you ignore Galbraith's specific discussion on the role of institutional fraud, choosing instead to see any attack on the clearly failed economics status quo as being 'anti free market'.

              Originally posted by SS
              If interest rates were 8% nominal for savers at the bank or on U.S. i-bonds ( 5% inflation compensation + 3% real return ), there would not be fraud, and the oligarchy would retreat. Along with inflation, cheap money breeds disease.
              It was because of the desire for 8% nominal rates for savers that the crap mortgage backed securities were created.

              So to say 8% interest rates cut back corruption is to ignore actually learning about why the situation today is different vs. say any decade prior to 1981.

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                Re: The Final Death (and Next Life) of John Maynard Keynes by Prof. James K. Galbraith

                Originally posted by Thailandnotes View Post
                I read this last week and many comments about it. I don't think he is "racking it up to the baleful influence of free-market economists."
                Galbraith racks it up to fraud and oligarchy. The so-called free-market economists are just cheerleaders.
                My apologies to both if previously posted. (I was across country and must have missed it)

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                  Re: The Final Death (and Next Life) of John Maynard Keynes by Prof. James K. Galbraith

                  Originally posted by c1ue View Post
                  Interesting also that you ignore Galbraith's specific discussion on the role of institutional fraud, choosing instead to see any attack on the clearly failed economics status quo as being 'anti free market'.
                  I see Galbraith's discussion of insititutional fraud as part of an underhanded rhetorical move in which he posits his virtuous Keynesians opposite a bulging straw man stuffed with everything from the efficient markets theory to meth-crazed mortgage salesmen. One could construct a similar speech conflating Keynesianism with collectivism and noting that millions died under Stalin. (Wait a minute, I think I heard that speech back in the eighties!) I think this kind of agitprop should make us suspicious.

                  I have been following iTulip since before the tech crash; the crisis in capitalism began building long before that. I think Keynesianism, whatever its merits, is as deeply implicated as other flavors of economic pseudo-science if only because Keynesian ideas (and price-fixing in general) are central to post-war economic policies. Or maybe that was all "False Keynesianism..."

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                    Re: The Final Death (and Next Life) of John Maynard Keynes by Prof. James K. Galbraith

                    Originally posted by fisher
                    I see Galbraith's discussion of insititutional fraud as part of an underhanded rhetorical move in which he posits his virtuous Keynesians opposite a bulging straw man stuffed with everything from the efficient markets theory to meth-crazed mortgage salesmen. One could construct a similar speech conflating Keynesianism with collectivism and noting that millions died under Stalin. (Wait a minute, I think I heard that speech back in the eighties!) I think this kind of agitprop should make us suspicious.
                    I see what you refer to, but I guess the question is whether Galbraith's allegations are false.

                    Certainly William Black among others - as mentioned in the article in question - has done a lot of work in documenting the participants and the rewards from what he calls 'control fraud', building upon his experiences cleaning up the S & L debacle.

                    As for the 'true' Keynesians being heroes - I don't get this sense at all.

                    What I read is that there is a thread of economic thought associated with intellectual rigor, and a more popular thread of economic thought associated with FIRE sponsors.

                    Originally posted by fisher
                    I have been following iTulip since before the tech crash; the crisis in capitalism began building long before that. I think Keynesianism, whatever its merits, is as deeply implicated as other flavors of economic pseudo-science if only because Keynesian ideas (and price-fixing in general) are central to post-war economic policies. Or maybe that was all "False Keynesianism..."
                    I guess it all depends on which time frame you refer to. In the article in question, Galbraith traces a series of popular but wrong lines of economic thought which extends at least to the 1960s.

                    So in some sense you are agreeing with Galbraith.

                    I'm no fan of Keynesian or whatever - ultimately whatever your school of thought you must at least be able to describe what has happened accurately before even considering prediction, much less economic direction.

                    iTulip is the closest I've seen of the hands-on school; a number of the authors Galbraith refers to are the closest in terms of non-ideological frameworks for understanding.

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