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    Okay, I know that's a great straight line . . .

    A reader responded to my recent column about how the US president was becoming a Caesar with a question: “Wouldn’t a Caesar be preferable to a democracy in which the people are too ignorant, disinterested, and stupid to engage in self-government?”


    Before I became a widely read columnist with many reader responses, I would have disagreed with the reader’s characterization of the American people. Today, I cannot answer the reader’s question with a “no” as confidently as I would like.


    I receive appreciative words from many readers who are well aware of what is going on.

    I also hear from many who are so partisan and have such strong emotional responses that they are unable to follow an argument. I don’t know what percentage these groups comprise in the population, but there seem to be a number of Americans, both on the left and the right, who are prepared to censor and even to kill in order to defend their illusions and delusions.


    I remain a suspect bogyman for some on the left, because of my association with the Kemp-Roth bill and Reaganomics. As I, and others, have explained so many times, Supply-Side economics reversed the monetary/fiscal policy mix in order to cure stagflation. But some leftists persist in their insistence that it was all a trick to cut taxes for the rich--the rich being those with more money than they. A stressed-out $100,000 a year guy with a family in a high-cost city is thrown into the rich class with the hedge fund manager who paid himself one billion dollars.


    To give the leftists their due, at least they know that I was a member of the Reagan administration. However, the right-wing zealots think that I am a pinko-liberal-commie.

    Recently I wrote an article pointing out that the Republicans had picked a bad time, when the world was already concerned about US financial credibility, to make an issue over the routine increase of the debt ceiling, thus creating an impasse that threatens default. The Republicans see in the debt ceiling issue an opportunity to cut social spending as the price of allowing an increase in the national debt.


    One can’t blame the Republicans for trying to do something about the growth of the public debt. However, there is a risk in the Republican’s intransigency, and that risk is that, thanks to presidential directives put on the books by President Bush, President Obama has the authority to declare the prospect of default a national emergency. Obama can simply set aside the debt ceiling limit and seize the power of the purse from Congress. The transformation of the president into Caesar would take another large step forward.


    I wrote that I regarded this risk to be greater than the risk of additional public debt.


    Several Republicans never reached the point of the article. I had taken for granted that everyone knew, especially Republicans, of the Republicans’ concern with entitlements and unfunded liabilities. I assumed that Republicans were aware of their party’s long history of reacting against the debts that are being piled upon our grandchildren, that they knew of the Grace Commission during the Reagan years, that they knew of Republican Pete Peterson’s many dramatic warnings and proposals, that they knew of David Walker’s accounting of the unfunded liabilities and the Republican Party’s determination to do something about the heavily-hyped cost of Social Security and Medicare. .


    I assumed that Republicans knew that during the Reagan years David Stockman and Alan Greenspan had accelerated the payroll tax increases that President Carter had put in place to ensure the long-term viability of Social Security and had spent the money for current operating expenses, leaving unfunded IOUs in the Social Security “trust fund.” I Assumed that Republicans knew that Republican Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors, Michael Boskin, and his Boskin Commission had reconfigured the Consumer Price Index in order to understate inflation and, thereby, reduce the cost-of-living-adjustments in Social Security checks.


    I assumed that Republicans somewhere along the way had read at least one paper by a Republican policy analyst or think-tank member about the Social Security “Ponzi scheme” and the unaffordability of Medicare.


    But, no, the Republican partisans who denounced me as an anti-Republican liberal propagandist for saying what is widely reported in the media--that the Republicans want large cuts in Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid as the price of their agreement to an increase in the debt limit--know nothing whatsoever of their party’s position on social spending. Apparently, they don’t even watch Fox News.


    These same partisans apparently have not noticed that the $1.2 trillion military/security expenditures are “off the table” when it comes to controlling spending. The Republicans and also the Democrats regard war as more important than old age pensions and medical care for the poor and the elderly. My Republican critics have also failed to noticed that House Republican Majority Leader Eric Cantor has made certain that tax increases on mega-high incomes are also “off the table.” According to mega-billionaire Warren Buffet, in America today we have the situation in which Buffet’s secretary pays a larger share of her income in taxes than does Buffet.


    When I wrote that the Republicans’ fixation with slashing the social safety net--a throw away line that is in every news report on the debt ceiling imbroglio--could turn out to be a threat to the separation of powers, several Republican partisans took extraordinary offense. Only a no-good liberal propagandist would claim that Republicans wanted to slash the safety net. My statement of an obvious fact reflected in the Republicans own proposals was all that it took for my critics to conclude that a notorious Reaganite was a Republican-hating liberal.


    It is annoying that people who have no idea what they are talking about are so ready to pop off. But it is discouraging to a writer that people are so emotional that they cannot follow an argument. Discouraged, in part by block-headed readers and from censorship of my writings by various Internet sites, I quit my column a while back and signed off.


    I was beset by thousands of emails pleading and demanding that I continue to write.

    I relented, and the emails from thoughtful readers keep me going.



    It is rewarding to hear from intelligent and open-minded people. But as the weeks and months go by, I find it ever more tiresome to tolerate closed minds spewing hate and ignorance. I have become convinced that there are enough frustrated and ignorant people out there to constitute a movement for a Fuhrer.


    Washington, which has produced a long list of disastrous policy decisions since the collapse of the Soviet Empire two decades ago, will no doubt continue making incredible mistakes about everything, and we will end up with a Caesar or a Fuhrer.

    Dr. Paul Craig Roberts

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=25816


  • #2
    Re: Roberts Feels the American Mind is Closing

    Originally posted by don View Post
    Okay, I know that's a great straight line . . .


    and you _do_ come up with some beauties sir! (typically just as i need to get up/away from the 'time machine', as i refer to a laptop connected to the 'net, as one can sit down in front of these things and - before ya know it - be magically transported to a time, way out further into the future, than one intended ;)

    writing as one who refers to himself as a former resident of The Live Free or Die State (and thats _not_ bluehampsha)
    i cant say there's much of anything i'd disagree with on the good Dr's views here.

    and again (and again and again), i'll submit my .02's worth of a solution on this whole nightmare:

    1: since its the 'entitlements' that are touted by the rightwing as 'the problem' and since those items are generally funded by the levy known as the FICA tax, the most immediate solution is to simply REMOVE THE INCOME LIMITS AND MEANSTEST THE PAYOUTS: all 'income' that otherwise gets taxed, should get FICA'd - esp the 'carried interest' of the hedgies, as its quite plainly INSANITY that only the first 106k gets hit with this one

    2: since its the out-of-control .mil budget that is 'the problem' for the leftwing, i say: CLOSE ALL THE BASES except for those that are directly covering our vital traderoutes, natural resources and our _true_ friends who otherwise couldnt fend for themselves AND BRING OUR TROOPS HOME - NOW!!! and put them to work rebuilding _our_ infrastructure.

    if there was to be such a thing as 'caesar' in The US, that would be the way to FIX THE PROBLEM, IMHO


    Originally posted by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
    Originally posted by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
    A reader responded to my recent column about how the US president was becoming a Caesar with a question: “Wouldn’t a Caesar be preferable to a democracy in which the people are too ignorant, disinterested, and stupid to engage in self-government?”


    Before I became a widely read columnist with many reader responses, I would have disagreed with the reader’s characterization of the American people. Today, I cannot answer the reader’s question with a “no” as confidently as I would like.


    I receive appreciative words from many readers who are well aware of what is going on.

    I also hear from many who are so partisan and have such strong emotional responses that they are unable to follow an argument. I don’t know what percentage these groups comprise in the population, but there seem to be a number of Americans, both on the left and the right, who are prepared to censor and even to kill in order to defend their illusions and delusions.


    I remain a suspect bogyman for some on the left, because of my association with the Kemp-Roth bill and Reaganomics. As I, and others, have explained so many times, Supply-Side economics reversed the monetary/fiscal policy mix in order to cure stagflation. But some leftists persist in their insistence that it was all a trick to cut taxes for the rich--the rich being those with more money than they. A stressed-out $100,000 a year guy with a family in a high-cost city is thrown into the rich class with the hedge fund manager who paid himself one billion dollars.


    To give the leftists their due, at least they know that I was a member of the Reagan administration. However, the right-wing zealots think that I am a pinko-liberal-commie.

    Recently I wrote an article pointing out that the Republicans had picked a bad time, when the world was already concerned about US financial credibility, to make an issue over the routine increase of the debt ceiling, thus creating an impasse that threatens default. The Republicans see in the debt ceiling issue an opportunity to cut social spending as the price of allowing an increase in the national debt.


    One can’t blame the Republicans for trying to do something about the growth of the public debt. However, there is a risk in the Republican’s intransigency, and that risk is that, thanks to presidential directives put on the books by President Bush, President Obama has the authority to declare the prospect of default a national emergency. Obama can simply set aside the debt ceiling limit and seize the power of the purse from Congress. The transformation of the president into Caesar would take another large step forward.


    I wrote that I regarded this risk to be greater than the risk of additional public debt.


    Several Republicans never reached the point of the article. I had taken for granted that everyone knew, especially Republicans, of the Republicans’ concern with entitlements and unfunded liabilities. I assumed that Republicans were aware of their party’s long history of reacting against the debts that are being piled upon our grandchildren, that they knew of the Grace Commission during the Reagan years, that they knew of Republican Pete Peterson’s many dramatic warnings and proposals, that they knew of David Walker’s accounting of the unfunded liabilities and the Republican Party’s determination to do something about the heavily-hyped cost of Social Security and Medicare. .


    I assumed that Republicans knew that during the Reagan years David Stockman and Alan Greenspan had accelerated the payroll tax increases that President Carter had put in place to ensure the long-term viability of Social Security and had spent the money for current operating expenses, leaving unfunded IOUs in the Social Security “trust fund.” I Assumed that Republicans knew that Republican Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors, Michael Boskin, and his Boskin Commission had reconfigured the Consumer Price Index in order to understate inflation and, thereby, reduce the cost-of-living-adjustments in Social Security checks.


    I assumed that Republicans somewhere along the way had read at least one paper by a Republican policy analyst or think-tank member about the Social Security “Ponzi scheme” and the unaffordability of Medicare.


    But, no, the Republican partisans who denounced me as an anti-Republican liberal propagandist for saying what is widely reported in the media--that the Republicans want large cuts in Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid as the price of their agreement to an increase in the debt limit--know nothing whatsoever of their party’s position on social spending. Apparently, they don’t even watch Fox News.


    These same partisans apparently have not noticed that the $1.2 trillion military/security expenditures are “off the table” when it comes to controlling spending. The Republicans and also the Democrats regard war as more important than old age pensions and medical care for the poor and the elderly. My Republican critics have also failed to noticed that House Republican Majority Leader Eric Cantor has made certain that tax increases on mega-high incomes are also “off the table.” According to mega-billionaire Warren Buffet, in America today we have the situation in which Buffet’s secretary pays a larger share of her income in taxes than does Buffet.


    When I wrote that the Republicans’ fixation with slashing the social safety net--a throw away line that is in every news report on the debt ceiling imbroglio--could turn out to be a threat to the separation of powers, several Republican partisans took extraordinary offense. Only a no-good liberal propagandist would claim that Republicans wanted to slash the safety net. My statement of an obvious fact reflected in the Republicans own proposals was all that it took for my critics to conclude that a notorious Reaganite was a Republican-hating liberal.


    It is annoying that people who have no idea what they are talking about are so ready to pop off. But it is discouraging to a writer that people are so emotional that they cannot follow an argument. Discouraged, in part by block-headed readers and from censorship of my writings by various Internet sites, I quit my column a while back and signed off.


    I was beset by thousands of emails pleading and demanding that I continue to write.

    I relented, and the emails from thoughtful readers keep me going.



    It is rewarding to hear from intelligent and open-minded people. But as the weeks and months go by, I find it ever more tiresome to tolerate closed minds spewing hate and ignorance. I have become convinced that there are enough frustrated and ignorant people out there to constitute a movement for a Fuhrer.


    Washington, which has produced a long list of disastrous policy decisions since the collapse of the Soviet Empire two decades ago, will no doubt continue making incredible mistakes about everything, and we will end up with a Caesar or a Fuhrer.

    Dr. Paul Craig Roberts

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=25816

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    • #3
      Re: Roberts Feels the American Mind is Closing

      Originally posted by don View Post
      It is rewarding to hear from intelligent and open-minded people. But as the weeks and months go by, I find it ever more tiresome to tolerate closed minds spewing hate and ignorance. I have become convinced that there are enough frustrated and ignorant people out there to constitute a movement for a Fuhrer.
      That ties in well with the recent post I did about the newspaper article. It feels to me that some people are actively seeking scapegoats.

      At least I'm certain there are enough people to seek a Caesar on the internet. I'm not conviced we're there yet, but it seems to me we're headed that'a'way.

      (Then again, the tinfoil hat's a'tellin'me that some of these hateful boasts are bots or a single individual posting with several user names).

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      • #4
        Re: Roberts Feels the American Mind is Closing

        copy paste from old....

        10-15-08 01:48 PM #1

        Huey Long, Upton Sinclair, Ham and Eggs… What Almost Was
        Huey Long, Upton Sinclair, Ham and Eggs… What Almost Was

        By Mark Sengel (iTulip)

        With Eric Janszen quoting Mussolini and Stalin to warn readers that aspiring autocrats have in the past used political opportunities created by financial and economic crises to take a nation left or right, the bailout debates on iTulip sent me back to school to find a colorful history of populist near misses here in the United States.



        Fake "Ham and Eggs" currency distributed in the campaign to defeat a 1938 ballot initiative in California.

        "Every man a king, but no one wears a crown." - Huey Long

        Huey Long was elected governor of Louisiana at 35 in 1928. He had dropped out of high school, but had passed the bar exam at 21. At 25 he was elected railroad commissioner. In that position he began to win concessions from utility companies. He secured refunds from the phone company after successfully arguing the appeal in front of the US Supreme Court. As governor he proposed a 5-cent tax on a barrel of crude. When Standard Oil mocked the idea, he threatened to take over its refineries and kick the company out of the state. A deal was struck.

        At the start of his term as governor, Louisiana had just 300 miles of paved roads and the highest illiteracy rate in the country. Long's massive program of road and bridge construction created thousands of jobs, presaging the WPA. He made good on a campaign promise of free textbooks for all, increasing enrollment dramatically. He cajoled stronger banks in the East into saving local banks in Louisiana. Bank failures in the state were much lower than the national average.

        As Lance Hill writes, "Long placed increasing importance on the role of the state in salvaging capitalism from its apocalyptic crisis. Similar to Mussolini (of whom Huey genuinely knew little), Long had arrived at the conclusion that the solution to economic crisis was the intervention of the state as a reconciling force detached from the interests of labor or capital." After being elected to the U.S. senate, he retained control of the governorship through a handpicked successor and a massive patronage system. Long campaigned for Roosevelt and supported New Deal proposals, but once in the senate, began proposing more radical ideas. Most famous was his Share Our Wealth Society. It promised an income of 2,000 dollars for every household, a 30 hour workweek, retirement pensions, and free college tuition. It was to be paid for by taxing the rich. A rich man's eighth million of income was taxed at 100%, 7th million at 64%, 6th million at 32%. By 1935 there were 27,000 Share Our Wealth clubs in every state with seven million members. Some days Long received more than 30,000 pieces of mail in his senate office.

        Hill writes, "Huey Long was convinced he would be in the White House by 1940. His plan was to field a third party candidate in 1936, stealing the Southern Dixiecrat and left vote from Roosevelt and throwing the election to the Republicans. After four years of conservative and devastating Republican rule, the country would be on the verge of economic collapse, and Huey would sally forth to sweep the country off its feet. It was a shrewd strategy, and at all points realizable." Long was assassinated on September 8th, 1935.

        Upton Sinclair wrote more than 90 books, won a Pulitzer, and is most remembered for The Jungle which led to regulation of the food industry. He also won 879,000 votes in an unsuccessful bid for the governorship of California in 1934. He was defeated by Frank Merriam who rallied conservatives into a "Stop Sinclair" movement. Merriam's backers included Louis B. Mayer and William Randolph Hearst. During the campaign, Mayer turned studios in Los Angeles into propaganda machines, producing fake newsreels to run before feature films in theaters across the state. One newsreel showed Soviets arriving in California to vote for Lewis. Another showed bums hopping off trains, flocking to California for handouts.

        Months before the vote, Upton Sinclair wrote:
        “Such is the trap prepared for me next January. The banks will be demanding their money, and refusing to lend any more to an ex-Socialist Governor--unless, of course, he promises to be "good." We have to make it plain that efforts at sabotage will not frighten us, and that if we cannot find anybody else to tax, we will tax the banks. If the people of California elect Upton Sinclair their next Governor, it will be because they want somebody who means to end poverty, and would prefer to die rather than fail.

        "To meet the situation we shall need cash, and a great deal of cash, immediately. The people will have to pass an emergency measure which will bring in this cash. We shall assuredly not take it from the poor, nor shall we leave ourselves in the position where we have to take orders from the financial oligarchy which has brought us to our present plight.

        "Let me make clear that I am not proposing a program of confiscation, nor have I any secret desire to destroy private business under the guise of taxation. As Governor, I shall confront a deficit for which I have no responsibility; a breakdown of private business caused by its own blind greed. This emergency can only be met by taxation, or by increase of debt, which is taxation put onto our children. We can follow one of two courses: the old method, of taxing the poor, or a new method, of taxing those who have so much money that they do not know what to do with it.”

        "Ham and Eggs" was a 1938 California ballot initiative. It proposed to give everyone over the age of 50 thirty dollars every Thursday. The money was scrip to be issued by the state. One unit = one dollar. To encourage recipients to spend the money and stimulate the economy, the scrip could expire. To prevent it from expiring, owners would be required to buy revenue stamps and affix them to the bills. FDR called it a fantasy. The movement took off when Archie Price committed suicide by swallowing rat poisoning. Price had written a local newspaper two years earlier, explaining that he had no family, could not work, and would end his life when his savings ran out. He was true to his word. Price was set to be buried in a pauper's grave, but Roger Coffin, a Ham and Eggs organizer, convinced a San Diego funeral home to bury Price in Glen Abbey Cemetery. Thousands attended the funeral including prominent politicians. The "Ham and Eggs" initiative was narrowly defeated, 1,398,999 to 1,143,670.

        Editor's note: I appreciate the contributions iTulipers like Mark Sengel make to our understanding of history. I have argued here since 1999 that a political economy characterized by wide disparities of wealth, income, and debt is, in an economic catastrophe, a petri dish perfectly prepared to grow the ugliest and least constructive economic solutions ever conceived by man. You will see me continue to pursue my mission to offer alternatives–Harper's Magazine, Forbes Magazine, and others and in my book–during the difficult period that is coming. - Eric Janszen

        Further reading

        Huey Long:
        http://www.hueylong.com/programs/share-our-wealth.php
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbyMeMApC3U
        http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/hueylong/
        (The first documentary Ken Burns made is one of his best.)

        Upton Sinclair:
        www.ssa.gov/history/epic.html

        Ham and Eggs:
        http://www.sandiegohistory.org/journ...all/battle.htm

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        Last edited by FRED; 02-22-09 at 10:55 PM.

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        • #5
          Re: Roberts Feels the American Mind is Closing

          I just find it amusing that articles such as this never reference any of the science that's been developed and deployed in order to cause this end, namely, the mental marginalisation of a population. Does no one read Norbert Weiner, or studied all the work completed by the scientists working under the Macy Conference, or researched the myriad of findings on human brain functioning (eg. see Joseph Ladue).

          C'mon, billions of dollars and decades upon decades have been invested in order to achieve said end.

          Why is all this history continually ignored by so-called intellectuals and academics. The material is in the public domain.
          The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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          • #6
            Re: Roberts Feels the American Mind is Closing

            Originally posted by reggie
            Does no one read Norbert Weiner, or studied all the work completed by the scientists working under the Macy Conference, or researched the myriad of findings on human brain functioning (eg. see Joseph Ladue).
            Plenty of people do.

            It is just that most of them aren't wearing a tin foil hat.

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            • #7
              Re: Roberts Feels the American Mind is Closing

              Originally posted by c1ue View Post
              Plenty of people do.

              It is just that most of them aren't wearing a tin foil hat.
              So, you must be able to tell me then what is democratic about Foerster's Power Laws as they apply to Weiner's/Asby's/Beers'/von Neumann's Comlexity system as manifested in our current global information grid (aka "the Internet")?
              The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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              • #8
                Re: Roberts Feels the American Mind is Closing

                Originally posted by reggie View Post
                So, you must be able to tell me then what is democratic about Foerster's Power Laws as they apply to Weiner's/Asby's/Beers'/von Neumann's Comlexity system as manifested in our current global information grid (aka "the Internet")?
                whew.... that was quite an eyefull....

                mr c1ue?

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                • #9
                  Re: Roberts Feels the American Mind is Closing

                  Originally posted by reggie
                  So, you must be able to tell me then what is democratic about Foerster's Power Laws as they apply to Weiner's/Asby's/Beers'/von Neumann's Comlexity system as manifested in our current global information grid (aka "the Internet")?
                  As someone who searches continuously for conspiracy, you can indubitably find it.

                  As someone who started using the Internet 10 years before browsers, there is no conspiracy about it. The same factors which predicate the rise of the Internet played equally into the rise of the telegraph, the telephone, national mail services, etc etc: improved communications leads to immediate economic gains. Economic gains lead into ever cheaper communications. Communications of sufficiently low expense lead to ever increasing marketing, eventually achieving SPAM levels.

                  Are you now going to say that the 75%+ filler content of snail mail is all part of a government plot?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Roberts Feels the American Mind is Closing

                    Originally posted by c1ue View Post
                    As someone who searches continuously for conspiracy, you can indubitably find it.

                    As someone who started using the Internet 10 years before browsers, there is no conspiracy about it. The same factors which predicate the rise of the Internet played equally into the rise of the telegraph, the telephone, national mail services, etc etc: improved communications leads to immediate economic gains. Economic gains lead into ever cheaper communications. Communications of sufficiently low expense lead to ever increasing marketing, eventually achieving SPAM levels.

                    Are you now going to say that the 75%+ filler content of snail mail is all part of a government plot?
                    You obvious have no understanding of Control feedback science. The question is, can free will and liberty exist inside a system built upon control feedback science? From what I gather from this thread, you seem to think it can, but can say nothing of the original scientific research that formed the basis for computer systems and networks.

                    The namecalling is getting a little old. Do you have anything else?

                    Norbert Weiner's original work is pretty god damn clear for anyone who bothers to read him.
                    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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                    • #11
                      Re: Roberts Feels the American Mind is Closing

                      Originally posted by reggie
                      Norbert Weiner's original work is pretty god damn clear for anyone who bothers to read him.
                      Norbert Weiner's original work has nothing to do with what your tin foil hat is finding.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Roberts Feels the American Mind is Closing

                        Here you go Reggie, just for your viewing pleasure

                        Metanoia

                        F r o m t h e G r e e k - to p e r c e i v e , t o t h i n k , t h e r e s u l t o f p e r c e i v i n g o r
                        o b s e r v i n g - m e t a n o i a m e a n s " a c h a n g e o f m i n d " .
                        In Theology, metanoia is used to refer to the change of
                        mind which is brought about in repentance.
                        The prefix "meta-" carries with it other variants that are
                        consistent with the Eastern Greek philosophical mindset,
                        "Meta-" is additionally used to imply "beyond" and "outside of."
                        E.g., metamorphosis as a beyond-change; and, metaphysics as
                        outside the limits of physics.
                        The Greek term for repentance, metanoia, denotes a change of mind, a
                        reorientation, a fundamental transformation of outlook, of an individual's vision of the
                        world and of her/himself, and a new way of loving others and the Universe. In the words of a
                        second-century text, The Shepherd of Hermas, it implies "great understanding," discernment.
                        In Carl Jung's psychology, metanoia indicates a spontaneous attempt of the psyche to heal itself of
                        unbearable conflict by melting down and then being reborn in a more adaptive form.



                        “A viscerally overpowering film and at the same time a thoughtful meditation on the human condition.”

                        - Walter A. Davis, Professor Emeritus, Ohio State University


                        “Brilliant…Riveting…The amount of material the filmmaker covers and unifies is astounding…
                        Human Resources diagnoses the 20th century.”

                        - Stephen Soldz, Professor, Boston Graduate School of Psychoanalysis;
                        President, Psychologists for Social Responsibility

                        "Powerful…Must See…It will leave you Spellbound.”

                        - Andrew Goliszek, Author, In the Name of Science:
                        A History of Secret Programs, Medical Research, and Human Experimentation

                        “An important work…terrifiying in its implications….
                        Human Resources is a must see for those of us who still take democracy seriously.”

                        - Bruce E. Levine, Author Commonsense Rebellion:
                        Taking Back Your Life from Drugs, Shrinks, Corporations, and a World Gone Crazy

                        “It scared the shit out of me…A powerful and methodical
                        dissection of the dominant culture.”

                        - Derrick Jensen, Author, Endgame
                        “A masterful examination of the mechanization of human existence…
                        It is a rare occasion when watching a film can help open not only our eyes, but our minds.”

                        - Andrew Marshall, Centre for Research on Globalization

                        “A Masterpiece. Unless you weep, you may be damaged by this film.
                        Viewer discretion, and love, advised.
                        - David Ker Thomson, Professor,
                        Language and Thinking Program at Bard College

                        "Scott Noble's work is a pioneering development in documentary filmmaking in its content,
                        documentary technique, and even distribution method. Watch his stuff, use it, and build on it."

                        - Chris Simpson, Professor, School of Communication, American University

                        http://metanoia-films.org/hr_watchonline.php
                        "that each simple substance has relations which express all the others"

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                        • #13
                          Re: Roberts Feels the American Mind is Closing

                          Originally posted by c1ue View Post
                          Norbert Weiner's original work has nothing to do with what your tin foil hat is finding.
                          Back to the major point of my earlier post.... The question is, can free will and liberty exist inside a system built upon control feedback science? From what I gather from this thread, you seem to think it can, but can say nothing of the original scientific research that formed the basis for computer systems and networks. Do you understand what control feedback theory is, and its purpose in system design?

                          Do you want to address the salient issue here, or are you going to continue to fall back on calling me names, as Marcuse predicted in his One Dimensional Man thesis?
                          Last edited by reggie; August 10, 2011, 03:18 PM.
                          The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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                          • #14
                            Re: Roberts Feels the American Mind is Closing

                            Originally posted by c1ue View Post
                            Norbert Weiner's original work has nothing to do with what your tin foil hat is finding.
                            You are totally wrong, here's a relevant excerpt on Weiner re: his PhD from Wikipedia:

                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norbert_Wiener

                            "Harvard awarded Wiener a Ph.D. in 1912, when he was merely 17 years old, for a dissertation on mathematical logic, supervised by Karl Schmidt, the essential results of which were published as Wiener (1914). In that dissertation, he was the first to state publicly that ordered pairs can be defined in terms of elementary set theory. Hence relations can be defined by set theory,"

                            This was the basis for Weiner's ultimate work in cybernetics.
                            The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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