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    In Japan, a Culture That Promotes Nuclear Dependency



    By MARTIN FACKLER and NORIMITSU ONISHI

    KASHIMA, Japan — When the Shimane nuclear plant was first proposed here more than 40 years ago, this rural port town put up such fierce resistance that the plant’s would-be operator, Chugoku Electric, almost scrapped the project. Angry fishermen vowed to defend areas where they had fished and harvested seaweed for generations.

    Two decades later, when Chugoku Electric was considering whether to expand the plant with a third reactor, Kashima once again swung into action: this time, to rally in favor. Prodded by the local fishing cooperative, the town assembly voted 15 to 2 to make a public appeal for construction of the $4 billion reactor.

    Kashima’s reversal is a common story in Japan, and one that helps explain what is, so far, this nation’s unwavering pursuit of nuclear power: a lack of widespread grass-roots opposition in the communities around its 54 nuclear reactors. This has held true even after the March 11 earthquake and tsunami generated a nuclear crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi station that has raised serious questions about whether this quake-prone nation has adequately ensured the safety of its plants. So far, it has spurred only muted public questioning in towns like this.

    Prime Minister Naoto Kan has, at least temporarily, shelved plans to expand Japan’s use of nuclear power — plans promoted by the country’s powerful nuclear establishment. Communities appear willing to fight fiercely for nuclear power, despite concerns about safety that many residents refrain from voicing publicly.

    To understand Kashima’s about-face, one need look no further than the Fukada Sports Park, which serves the 7,500 mostly older residents here with a baseball diamond, lighted tennis courts, a soccer field and a $35 million gymnasium with indoor pool and Olympic-size volleyball arena. The gym is just one of several big public works projects paid for with the hundreds of millions of dollars this community is receiving for accepting the No. 3 reactor, which is still under construction.

    As Kashima’s story suggests, Tokyo has been able to essentially buy the support, or at least the silent acquiescence, of communities by showering them with generous subsidies, payouts and jobs. In 2009 alone, Tokyo gave $1.15 billion for public works projects to communities that have electric plants, according to the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry. Experts say the majority of that money goes to communities near nuclear plants.

    And that is just the tip of the iceberg, experts say, as the communities also receive a host of subsidies, property and income tax revenues, compensation to individuals and even “anonymous” donations to local treasuries that are widely believed to come from plant operators.

    Code of Silence

    Indeed, a code of silence seems to prevail even now in towns like Kashima, which merged with the neighboring city of Matsue a half decade ago.

    Tsuneyoshi Adachi, a 63-year-old fisherman, joined the huge protests in the 1970s and 1980s against the plant’s No. 2 reactor. He said many fishermen were angry then because chlorine from the pumps of the plant’s No. 1 reactor, which began operating in 1974, was killing seaweed and fish in local fishing grounds.

    However, Mr. Adachi said, once compensation payments from the No. 2 reactor began to flow in, neighbors began to give him cold looks and then ignore him. By the time the No. 3 reactor was proposed in the early 1990s, no one, including Mr. Adachi, was willing to speak out against the plant. He said that there was the same peer pressure even after the accident at Fukushima, which scared many here because they live within a few miles of the Shimane plant.

    “Sure, we are all worried in our hearts about whether the same disaster could happen at the Shimane nuclear plant,” Mr. Adachi said. However, “the town knows it can no longer survive economically without the nuclear plant.”

    While few will say so in public, many residents also quietly express concern about how their town gave up its once-busy fishing industry. They also say that flashy projects like the sports park have brought little lasting economic benefit. The No. 3 reactor alone brought the town some $90 million in public works money, and the promise of another $690 million in property tax revenues spread over more than 15 years once the reactor becomes operational next year.

    In the 1990s, property taxes from the No. 2 reactor supplied as much as three-quarters of town tax revenues. The fact that the revenues were going to decline eventually was one factor that drove the town to seek the No. 3 reactor, said the mayor at the time, Zentaro Aoyama.


    A Flow of Cash

    Much of this flow of cash was the product of the Three Power Source Development Laws, a sophisticated system of government subsidies created in 1974 by Kakuei Tanaka, the powerful prime minister who shaped Japan’s nuclear power landscape and used big public works projects to build postwar Japan’s most formidable political machine.

    The law required all Japanese power consumers to pay, as part of their utility bills, a tax that was funneled to communities with nuclear plants. Officials at the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry, which regulates the nuclear industry, and oversees the subsidies, refused to specify how much communities have come to rely on those subsidies.

    “This is money to promote the locality’s acceptance of a nuclear plant,” said Tatsumi Nakano of the ministry’s Agency for Natural Resources and Energy. A spokesman for Tohoku Electric Power Company, which operates a plant in Higashidori, said that the company is not involved in the subsidies, and that since Fukushima, it has focused on reassuring the public of the safety of nuclear plants.

    Political experts say the subsidies encourage not only acceptance of a plant but also, over time, its expansion. That is because subsidies are designed to peak soon after a plant or reactor becomes operational, and then decline.

    “In many cases, what you’ll see is that a town that was depopulating and had very little tax base gets a tremendous insurge of money,” said Daniel P. Aldrich, a political scientist at Purdue University who has studied the laws.

    As the subsidies continue to decline over the lifetime of a reactor, communities come under pressure to accept the construction of new ones, Mr. Aldrich said. “The local community gets used to the spending they got for the first reactor — and the second, third, fourth, and fifth reactors help them keep up,” he added.

    Critics point to the case of Futaba, the town that includes Fukushima Daiichi’s No. 5 and No. 6 reactors, which began operating in 1978 and 1979, respectively.


    The Most to Lose

    This dependence explains why Prime Minister Kan’s talk of slowing Japan’s push for nuclear power worries few places as much as the Shimokita Peninsula, an isolated region in northern Honshu.

    The peninsula’s first reactor went online in 2005, two are under construction, and two more are still being planned. Japan is also building massive nuclear waste disposal and reprocessing facilities there. As newcomers to nuclear power, Shimokita’s host communities now have the most to lose.

    Consider Higashidori, a town with one working reactor and three more scheduled to start operating over the next decade. With the subsidies and other revenues from four planned reactors, town officials began building an entirely new town center two decades ago.

    Serving a rapidly declining population of 7,300, the town center is now dominated by three gigantic, and barely used, buildings in the shape of a triangle, a circle and a square, which, according to the Tokyo-based designer, symbolize man, woman and child. Nearby, a sprawling campus with two running tracks, two large gymnasiums, eight tennis courts and an indoor baseball field serves fewer than 600 elementary and junior high school children. In 2010, nearly 46 percent of the town’s $94 million budget came from nuclear-related subsidies and property taxes.

    Shigenori Sasatake, a town official overseeing nuclear power, said Higashidori hoped that the Japanese government and plant operators would not waver from their commitment to build three more reactors there, despite the risks exposed at Fukushima.

    “Because there are risks, there is no way reactors would be built in Tokyo, but only here in this kind of rural area,” Mr. Sasatake said, adding that town officials harbored no regrets about having undertaken such grandiose building projects.

    But Higashidori’s building spree raised eyebrows in Oma, another peninsula town, with 6,300 residents, where construction on its first reactor, scheduled to start operating in 2014, was halted after the Fukushima disaster.

    Tsuneyoshi Asami, a former mayor who played a critical role in bringing the plant to Oma, said that the town did not want to be stuck with fancy but useless buildings that would create fiscal problems in the future. So far, Oma has resisted building a new town hall, using nuclear subsidies instead to construct educational and fisheries facilities, as well as a home for the elderly.

    “Regular people and town council members kept saying that no other community where a plant was located has stopped at only one reactor — that there was always a second or third one — so we should be spending more,” Mr. Asami said. “But I said no.”

    Still, even in Oma, there were worries that the Fukushima disaster would indefinitely delay the construction of its plant. It is just the latest example of how the system of subsidies and dependency Japan created to expand nuclear power makes it difficult for the country to reverse course.

    “We absolutely need it,” Yoshifumi Matsuyama, the chairman of Oma’s Chamber of Commerce, said of the plant. “Nothing other than a nuclear plant will bring money here. That’s for sure. What else can an isolated town like this do except host a nuclear plant?”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/31/wo...ef=todayspaper


    Who Will Take the Radioactive Rods from Fukushima?

    by Yoichi Shimatsu

    The decommissioning of the Fukushima 1 nuclear plant is delayed by a single problem: Where to dispose of the uranium fuel rods? Many of those rods are extremely radioactive and partially melted, and some contain highly lethal plutonium.
    Besides the fissile fuel inside the plant's six reactors, more than 7 tons of spent rods have to be removed to a permanent storage site before workers can bury the Fukushima facility under concrete. The rods cannot be permanently stored in Japan because the country's new waste storage centers on the northeast tip of Honshu are built on unsuitable land. The floors of the Rokkasho reprocessing facility and Mutsu storage unit are cracked from uneven sinking into the boggy soil.

    Entombment of the rods inside the Fukushima 1 reactors carries enormous risks because the footing of landfill cannot support the weight of the fuel rods in addition to the reactors and cooling water inside the planned concrete containment walls. The less reactive spent fuel would have to be kept inside air-cooled dry casks. The powerful earthquakes that frequently strike the Tohoku region will eventually undermine the foundations, causing radioactive wastewater to pour unstoppably into the Pacific Ocean. The rods must therefore go to another country.

    America

    Under the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), signed by Japan in 1970, Washington's negotiators stipulated that used nuclear fuel from Japanese reactors must by law be shipped to the United States for storage or reprocessing to prevent the development of an atomic bomb. Washington has been unable to fulfill its treaty obligations to Tokyo due to the public outcry against the proposed Yucca Mountain storage facility near Las Vegas.

    A panel convened by the Obama administration has just recommended the set up of a network of storage sites across the United States, a controversy certain to revive the anti-nuclear sentiments during the upcoming election campaign. The American nuclear industry has its own stockpile of more than 60,000 tons of spent fuel - not counting waste from reactors used for military and research purposes - leaving no space for Fukushima's rods inside the Nevada disposal site, if indeed it is ever opened.

    To Continental Asia

    The Tokyo Electric Power Company (Tepco) has allocated 1 trillion yen ($12 billion) in funds for nuclear waste disposal. Areva, the French nuclear monopoly, has teamed up with Tepco to find an overseas storage site. So far, the Tepco-Areva team have quietly contacted three Asian countries - Kazakhstan, China and Mongolia -- to set up a center for "reprocessing", a euphemism for nuclear dump site.

    Among the threesome, China was the top choice for the Japanese nuclear establishment, which has confidence in Beijing's ability to safeguard nuclear secrets from its citizenry and even from the top leaders. Japan's space agency, which keeps 24-hour satellite observation over every nuclear-related facility in China, possesses the entire record of radiation leaks there. Since Beijing withholds this sort of data from the public, the Japanese side felt it had the necessary leverage in talks with Chinese nuclear officials.

    Though the nuclear-sector bureaucrats were initially eager to receive bundles of yen, the proposal was blown away by the salt craze that swept over China. Within a couple of weeks of the Fukushima meltdowns, millions of shoppers emptied supermarket shelves on rumors that iodized salt could prevent radiation-caused thyroid cancer. The Chinese public is rightfully fearful of health-related scandals after discoveries of melamine in milk, growth hormones in pork, pesticides in vegetables, antibiotics in fish and now radioactive fallout over farmland.

    A nuclear disposal deal would require trucks loaded with radioactive cargo to roll through a densely populated port, perhaps Tianjin or Ningbo, in the dead of night. There is no way that secret shipments wouldn't be spotted by locals with smart phones, triggering a mass exodus from every city, town and village along the route to the dumping grounds in China's far west. Thus, the skittishness of the ordinary Chinese citizen knocked out the easiest of nefarious plans.

    Principle of Industrial Recovery

    A more logical choice for overseas storage is in the sparsely populated countries that supply uranium ore to Japan, particularly Australia and Canada. As exporters of uranium, Canberra and Ottawa are ultimately responsible for storage of the nuclear waste under the legal principle of industrial recovery.

    The practice of industrial recovery is already well-established in the consumer electronics and household appliances sectors where manufacturers are required by an increasing number of countries to take back and recycle used television sets, computers and refrigerators.

    Under the principle, uranium mining giants like Rio Tinto and CAMECO would be required to take back depleted uranium. The cost of waste storage would then be factored into the export price for uranium ore. The added cost is passed along to utility companies and ultimately the consumer through a higher electricity rate. If the market refuses to bear the higher price for uranium as compared with other fuels, then nuclear power will go the way of the steam engine.

    Australian and Canadian politicians are bound to opportunistically oppose the return of depleted uranium since any shipments from Fukushima would be met by a massive turnout of "not-in-my-backyard" protesters. The only way for Tokyo to convince the local politicos to go along quietly is by threatening to publish an online list of the bribe-takers in parliament who had earlier backed uranium mining on behalf of the Japanese interests.

    Nuclear's Cost-Efficiency

    The question then arise whether nuclear power, when long-term storage fees are included, is competitive with investment in renewable energy such as wind, solar, hydro and tidal resources. Renewable energy probably has the edge since they don't create waste. Natural gas remains the undisputed price beater wherever it is available in abundance. In a free market without hidden subsidies, nuclear is probably doomed.

    In a lapse of professionalism, the International Atomic Energy Commission (IAEA) has never seriously addressed nuclear-waste disposal as an industrywide issue. Based on the ration of spent rods to reactor fuel inside U.S. nuclear facilities, there are close to 200,000 metric tons of high-level nuclear waste at the 453 civilian nuclear-energy plants worldwide. Yet not a single permanent storage site has ever been opened anywhere.

    The Fukushima 1 dilemma shows that the issues of cost-efficiency and technological viability can no longer be deferred or ignored. Ratings agencies report that Tepco's outstanding debt has soared beyond $90 billion, meaning that it cannot cover future costs of storing spent rods from its Kashiwazaki and Fukushima 2 nuclear plants. The Japanese government's debt has soared to 200 percent of GDP. Neither entity can afford the rising cost of nuclear power.

    The inability of Tepco or the government to pay for nuclear waste disposal puts the financial liability squarely on its partner companies and suppliers, including GE, Toshiba, Hitachi, Kajima Construction and especially the sources of the uranium, CAMECO and Rio Tinto and the governments of Canada and Australia. A fundamental rule of both capitalism and civil law is that somebody has to pay.

    Last Stop

    Since Australia and Canada aren't in any hurry to take back the radioactive leftovers, that leaves Japan and treaty-partner United States with only one option for quick disposal- Mongolia.

    Ulan Bator accepts open-pit mining for coal and copper, which are nothing but gigantic toxic sites, so why not take the melted-down nuclear rods? Its GDP, ranked 136 among the world's economies, is estimated to be $5.8 billion in 2010. Thus, $12 billion is an unimaginable sum for one more hole in the ground.

    Not that Mongolia would get the entirety of the budget, since the nuclear cargo would have to transit through the Russian Far East. Unlike the health-conscious Chinese, the population of Nakhodka or Vladivostok are used to playing fast-and-loose with radioactive materials and vodka.

    Even if the mafia that runs the Russian transport industry were to demand a disproportionate cut, Mongolia's 3 million inhabitants would be overjoyed at gaining about $2,000 each, more than the average annual income, that is if the money is divided evenly after the costs of building the dump.

    Realistically, the Mongolian people are unlikely to receive a penny, since the money will go into a trust fund for maintenance costs. That's because $12 billion spread over the half-life of uranium - 700 million years - is equivalent to $17 in annual rent. That doesn't even cover kibble bits for the watchdog on duty, much less the cooling system. Not that anyone will be counting since by the time uranium decays to a safe level, fossils will be the sole remnant of human life on Earth.

    Illusory, shortsighted greed will surely triumph in Mongolia, and that leaves a question of moral accountability for the rest of us. Will the world community feel remorse for dumping its nuclear mess onto an ancient culture that invented boiled mutton, fermented mare's milk and Genghis Khan? For guilt-ridden diplomats from Tokyo and Washington wheedling the dirty deal in Ulan Bator, here's the rebuttal: Did the national hero, the Great Khan, ever shed any tears or feel pangs of guilt? There's no need for soul-searching. A solution is at hand.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=25064

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    Money doesn't talk,
    It screams

    Bob Dylan
    (on nuclear power's NIMBY solution)

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      There's enough there to disgust or freak out anyone Don. Nice finds.

      The planned dependancy of local Japanese governments on the Nuclear tit is a fatal indictment of the industry as it exists.

      The Global Research article though seems a bit tendentious.

      What I think we've learned from Fukushima (short list):

      - no government or industry source is really credible
      - likely the majority of existing nuclear reactors are extremely suspect in design
      - nuclear was ready for a remission, not a renaissance

      I'm a big fan of squinting hard and seeing the big picture. This might render a vista where nuclear is dead. It's a reasonable result. But regardless of how fucked up it is Japan is hopelessly dependant on Nuclear. It might not be the money that is the leading edge but the dependancy that is trailing the money behind it.

      In this context I'm disturbed that there seems to be no curiosity in the above stories about what reactor designs are being built now. The irony might be that, despite the horrid optics of the Japanese state paying off the NIMBY's, improved designs actually address the real concerns.

      As for repatriating the spent fuel, that seems eminently reasonable. All for it.

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        Good find Don.

        I like this part
        “Sure, we are all worried in our hearts about whether the same disaster could happen at the Shimane nuclear plant,” Mr. Adachi said. However, “the town knows it can no longer survive economically without the nuclear plant.”
        This trick is the high art of corporations. Before they had their livelihood in their own hands and now they are dependent on others.

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          Originally posted by Shakespear View Post
          This trick is the high art of corporations. Before they had their livelihood in their own hands and now they are dependent on others.
          Couldn't help but think of the dependency pension funds have in derivatives which in the end will destroy them.

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            The problem with this article is the premise applies to any large industry in an otherwise out of way place.

            Why are Detroit and Flint different than the village above? These 2 cities were clearly heavily dependent on the auto industry, and politically as well as economically protected their cash cow.

            Similarly why do you think any other energy source is going to be any different? Do you really think that the solar, wind (GE), wave, ethanol or whatever industries aren't spending millions on lobbying in order to entrench and enrich their profits?

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              C1ue: It would be nice to hear the views of an ardent nuclear power proponent on the real world fiscal costs of nuclear. Omitting the costs of the lengthy approval process, what are the actual costs of building, running, disposing of waste and the eventual dismantling of the plant?

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                Originally posted by don View Post
                C1ue: It would be nice to hear the views of an ardent nuclear power proponent on the real world fiscal costs of nuclear. Omitting the costs of the lengthy approval process, what are the actual costs of building, running, disposing of waste and the eventual dismantling of the plant?
                There is no cheaper source of energy than atomic power. Get rid of the excessive regulation and the needless delays in building power plants, the constant fighting with the eco-frauds, the fabricated (false) problem of waste storage, and the cultivated hysteria about atomic power, and then atomic power would be even cheaper. As is, Duke Power Company in the South-eastern U.S. generates and sells power for about 7cents per kwh. Duke generates much of its power from atomic-energy, some from coal, some from natural gas, and some from hydro-electric dams. Duke is one of the leaders in the field of atomic-energy generation in America.

                One more point, atomic-power plants do not have to be dismantled. With proper maintenance, atomic-power plants can run indefinitely. That is another fabricated (false) issue thanks to Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, W.A.R.N. in the South-eastern U.S, and the other eco-fraud pressure groups.

                Fukishima's power plant run by TEPCO in Japan did not get old. It was hit by a 9.0 earthquake and a 40-foot high tsunami. So let's keep the facts straight on this before we debate further.

                As for waste from atomic power plants, it is a few cups per day or a few cups per month. Atomic power is the cleanest and safest of all energy sources. Furthermore, the issue of waste at Yucca Mountain, Nevada has to do with the disposal of waste from bomb-building in the military, and NOT FROM ATOMIC POWER PLANTS. Let's keep that important fact straight, too.

                As for bomb-building, I do NOT support using atomic energy for any purpose other than for use in power plants and propulsion systems.
                Last edited by Starving Steve; June 02, 2011, 04:17 PM.

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                  what are the actual costs of building, running, disposing of waste and the eventual dismantling of the plant?
                  Appreciate that Steve but can I get a 2nd opinion?

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                    Originally posted by don View Post
                    Appreciate that Steve but can I get a 2nd opinion?
                    The World Nuclear Association surely qualify as ardent proponents of nuclear power and have detailed cost analysis on their site.

                    This about sums it up:

                    Nuclear energy is, in many places, competitive with fossil fuels for electricity generation, despite relatively high capital costs and the need to internalise all waste disposal and decommissioning costs. If the social, health and environmental costs of fossil fuels are also taken into account, the economics of nuclear power are outstanding.
                    Some of the charts and tables on their site show that coal may be cheaper than nuclear. Provided that carbon emissions are free.

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                      Nuclear energy is, in many places, competitive with fossil fuels for electricity generation, despite relatively high capital costs and the need to internalise all waste disposal and decommissioning costs. If the social, health and environmental costs of fossil fuels are also taken into account, the economics of nuclear power are outstanding.
                      As a no-nothing observer, it appears that building costs are higher, waste disposal - beyond the on-site holding pools - are omitted and in the long haul decommissioned plants become at best semi-public walk-a-ways.

                      Would any private energy corporation build a plant using only its own capital - with no public fiscal support - and taking full fiscal responsibility for permanent waste disposal and plant demolition?

                      Has a defunct plant ever been demolished? (intentionally, that is) Occasionally we see non-functioning plants intact, mausoleums to nuclear power. Is that the accepted norm?

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                        Originally posted by don View Post
                        As a no-nothing observer, it appears that building costs are higher, waste disposal - beyond the on-site holding pools - are omitted and in the long haul decommissioned plants become at best semi-public walk-a-ways.

                        Would any private energy corporation build a plant using only its own capital - with no public fiscal support - and taking full fiscal responsibility for permanent waste disposal and plant demolition?

                        Has a defunct plant ever been demolished? (intentionally, that is) Occasionally we see non-functioning plants intact, mausoleums to nuclear power. Is that the accepted norm?
                        Don't forget fuel-processing costs -a very confusing mix of public and private activity to enrich uranium into fissionable material.

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                          Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
                          Don't forget fuel-processing costs -a very confusing mix of public and private activity to enrich uranium into fissionable material.
                          Whenever I read something like this:

                          If the social, health and environmental costs of fossil fuels are also taken into account
                          I smell a rat. When since the Industrial Revolution has this been a factor in investment strategy and cost analysis? Like restoration of the mountain tops of West Virginia is built into the cost cake of the mining interests? Get real.

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                            Originally posted by don
                            C1ue: It would be nice to hear the views of an ardent nuclear power proponent on the real world fiscal costs of nuclear. Omitting the costs of the lengthy approval process, what are the actual costs of building, running, disposing of waste and the eventual dismantling of the plant?
                            Just look at PG & E's FERC report:

                            https://www.pge.com/regulation/FERC-...edForm1-09.pdf

                            Page 250: Diablo Canyon's 5 reactors cost a total of $6.618B with an estimated lifetime of 16 years remaining.

                            On Page 254: Over $12M in 2009 spent on various regulatory compliance issues.

                            Page 273: the actual cost and production data for Diablo Canyon:

                            Installed: 1968
                            Last reactor activated: 1986
                            Max capacity: 2323 Megawatts
                            Peak demand capacity (60 minutes): 2240 Megawatts
                            Net generation: 16264856065 Kwh (load factor: 79.8% - number on left divided by 2323 * 365.25 * 24 * 1000)
                            Total costs: $7221010274 (mostly equipment and structures/improvement cost)
                            Cost to build per MW capacity: $3.1M
                            Total production expenses: $383219978 ($0.0236 per Kwh)

                            Right next to Diablo Canyon (in the FERC report) is an old natural gas plant called Humboldt Bay 1 & 2

                            Installed: 1956
                            Max Capacity: 102.40 Megawatts
                            Total generation: 538591058 Kwh (Load factor: 60%)
                            Total cost: $40557501
                            Cost to build per MW capacity: $396061
                            Fuel cost per Kwh: $0.0741

                            If we (simplistically) amortize plant costs plus existing fuel costs as constant over 30 years, the natural gas plant would have a net electricity generation cost of: $0.0766 per Kwh (40557501 divided by 538591058 * 30 + $0.0741)

                            Diablo Canyon's net electricity generation cost over 30 years would be: $0.0384 per Kwh (7221010274 divided by 16264856065* 30 + $0.0236)

                            Or put another way: Diablo Canyon's fuel processing costs would need to be more than $18.6 billion dollars over 30 years in order to surpass Humboldt Bay's natural gas plant cost per Kwh. This would mean roughly tripling existing generation expenses.

                            The same PG & E report contains solar data:

                            Pages 296 & 297: AT & T Solar Arrays

                            Installed: 2007
                            Max Capacity: 0.11 Megawatts
                            Total generation: 166 Kwh (Load factor: 17.2%)
                            Total cost: $1990928
                            Cost to build per MW capacity: $18099345
                            Fuel cost per Kwh: $0.0
                            Cost per Kwh over lifetime (30 years, although solar arrays are usually warrantied only for 20): $3634

                            SF Service Center Solar Arrays:
                            Installed: 2007
                            Max Capacity: 0.81 Megawatts
                            Total generation: 285 Kwh (Load factor: 4.0%)
                            Total cost: $72959
                            Cost to build per MW capacity: $90072
                            Fuel cost per Kwh: $0.0
                            Cost per Kwh over lifetime (30 years, although solar arrays are usually warrantied only for 20): $8.53

                            Unfortunately all of the wind projects in Northern California are all private hence non-FERC - Altamont pass, etc etc. so we cannot see their numbers.

                            As you can see from this data: while undoubtedly fuel processing costs are non-trivial, they would have to be literally astronomical in order to make nuclear power as expensive as an old style natural gas plant.

                            It costs $10,500 or so to put 1 kilogram in low earth orbit - $18.6B could put 1.7 million kilograms into orbit.
                            Last edited by c1ue; June 03, 2011, 12:32 PM.

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                              Originally posted by don View Post
                              Whenever I read something like this ..

                              I smell a rat.

                              I think it's plausible though when you consider that they are comparing nuclear versus fossil fuels, i.e. it's ugly versus ugly, and ugly wins.

                              The disappointing thing is that wind generation is not economically competitive against either.

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