True Finns

[tacito]

First comment in a spanish article on the True Finns party translates to:

I cannot believe what I'm about to write. I agree with everything that an extreme right party has said, although the real left (not the PSOE - Spanish Socialist Worker Party, now ruling) has a similar opinion about the rescue fund. Everything is a plot to save the banks on our misery.

As you can see, that party is presented in european media as a nazy/fascist/skin head one. I won't contend that because I can't read finnish, and also because betting for the soundness or honesty of a politician is a looser bet. But I completely agree with everything that the leader of the True Finns says in that Wall Street Journal article.

An european voter like me has few options for supporting that kind of policy. That may explain why the finnish people has made a risky choice with these guys. At least they have that choice. Me, as an spaniard, I have none. Only brainless corrupted politicians serving the masters of the parties' debt.

[Chris]

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In the European press, all parties not following the Keyensian orthodoxy are 'Right Wing'. The true Finns are lucky to get so much publicity even though they are cast as the party of the devil. The idea that creditors who make bad loans should take a loss if the debtor can't pay isn't revolutionary. Nor is it 'Right Wing'.

[chr5648]

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The idea that creditors who make bad loans should take a loss if the debtor can't pay isn't revolutionary. Nor is it 'Right Wing'.

True, but homogenous nationalistic parties are hard to control, that is why the elites hate them. A multicultural/egalitarian society is easy to pick apart and kick around.

"Before the camps, I regarded the existence of nationality as something that shouldn't be noticed - Nationality did not really exist, only humanity.
But in the camps, one learns; if you belong to a successful nation you are protected and you survive. If you are part of universal humanity, too bad for you."
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn - 200 years together

[GRG55]

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True, but homogenous nationalistic parties are hard to control, that is why the elites hate them. A multicultural/egalitarian society is easy to pick apart and kick around.

"Before the camps, I regarded the existence of nationality as something that shouldn't be noticed - Nationality did not really exist, only humanity.
But in the camps, one learns; if you belong to a successful nation you are protected and you survive. If you are part of universal humanity, too bad for you."
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn - 200 years together

I grew up in a seriously "multicultural/egalitarian society", and perhaps because my parents were Asian immigrants that biases my view.

Having lived in the Middle East for some years last decade, and having observed first hand the incredibly divisive and destructive results of rampant tribalism - which seems to me the opposite of multicultural/egalitarian - I'll take the latter over the former any day.

[Thailandnotes]

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"In short, the True Finns are just another convenient mouthpiece for the very forces they appear to oppose, using hatred of the Other to persuade the confused and angry that they have real solutions to problems they have no intent to tackle.

And the party’s virulent Islamophobia is simply tawdry."

http://richardbrenneman.wordpress.co...nish-election/

I've been looking for a good long read on Finland. Haven't found one. Any links?

[jk]

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it's a symptom of mainstream parties being captured by the fire-men, that only an extremist party will speak the truth about how all the bailouts are really for the banks. them, and the icelandic people. i wish we, like icelanders, had had an opportunity to vote on whether to take on the banks' debts.l

[c1ue]

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it's a symptom of mainstream parties being captured by the fire-men, that only an extremist party will speak the truth about how all the bailouts are really for the banks

Indeed. This is one of the middle steps of how the tyrant achieves power.

When the status quo - whatever the side - fails to represent or lead the populace in an acceptable manner, this creates the opportunity for the 'extremists'.

[chr5648]

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Having lived in the Middle East for some years last decade, and having observed first hand the incredibly divisive and destructive results of rampant tribalism - which seems to me the opposite of multicultural/egalitarian - I'll take the latter over the former any day.

I wonder how those middle eastern societies would react if their elites started to push multiculturalism/egalitarianism, I would bet they would be more violent than ever. Multiculturalism/egalitarianism is a social construct that the elites push on societies of white/European ancestry, it is rarely found outside America/Europe. Would you expect asians/africans/south americans to welcome others into their countries like it is done in Europe/America? That is a bloodbath waiting to happen.

This is clearly a policy of the ruling class. The history books do not show a civilization/society/nation that was multicultural to sustain it self. On the other hand the history books show countless examples of multicultural/egalitarian failure: Greeks, Romans, 1700's-1800's Poland, Yugoslavia, Soviet Union, kosovo/serbia, etc.

The government, capitalists, socialists, globalists spend alot of time and money socially engineering everyone to make sure those tribal diversions don't occur in the west. Take away welfare, housing allowances, affirmative action, redistribution programs, monopoly power, diversity programs, money printing ability, debt creation etc. and the tribalism/violence you see in the middle east will come to Europe/America.

"In short, the True Finns are just another convenient mouthpiece for the very forces they appear to oppose, using hatred of the Other to persuade the confused and angry that they have real solutions to problems they have no intent to tackle.

And the party’s virulent Islamophobia is simply tawdry."

http://richardbrenneman.wordpress.co...nish-election/

Why should money be redistributed from finnish children and the finnish people and given to an immigrant population that is intent on replacing them? Why should finnish culture be attacked and silenced through political correctness? What is wrong with caring for you own? We evolved with the intent caring for our own. You can abstract the human and take him out of nature but, at the end of the day you can't take the nature out of the human. The fins are stepping up for themselves, good for them.

Indeed. This is one of the middle steps of how the tyrant achieves power.

When the status quo - whatever the side - fails to represent or lead the populace in an acceptable manner, this creates the opportunity for the 'extremists'.

Most see this as "extreme", that is only due to the fact that that middle/moderate has been redefined. 100 years ago, today's political paradigm would seem "extremist".