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  • Does your corporation pay US taxes? Not if it's GE.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/bu...omy/25tax.html


    The company reported worldwide profits of $14.2 billion, and said $5.1 billion of the total came from its operations in the United States.

    Its American tax bill? None. In fact, G.E. claimed a tax benefit of $3.2 billion.

    That may be hard to fathom for the millions of American business owners and households now preparing their own returns, but low taxes are nothing new for G.E. The company has been cutting the percentage of its American profits paid to the Internal Revenue Service for years, resulting in a far lower rate than at most multinational companies.

    Its extraordinary success is based on an aggressive strategy that mixes fierce lobbying for tax breaks and innovative accounting that enables it to concentrate its profits offshore. G.E.’s giant tax department, led by a bow-tied former Treasury official named John Samuels, is often referred to as the world’s best tax law firm. Indeed, the company’s slogan “Imagination at Work” fits this department well. The team includes former officials not just from the Treasury, but also from the I.R.S. and virtually all the tax-writing committees in Congress.

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    Re: Does your corporation pay US taxes? Not if it's GE.

    Nothing surprise me there except that it is appearing in NYT. :-(

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    • #3
      Re: Does your corporation pay US taxes? Not if it's GE.

      Not to mention GE has a permanent seat on the corporate welfare gravy train that never leaves Pentagon Station.

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        Re: Does your corporation pay US taxes? Not if it's GE.

        Originally posted by don View Post
        Not to mention GE has a permanent seat on the corporate welfare gravy train that never leaves Pentagon Station.
        Choo! Choo!

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        • #5
          Re: Does your corporation pay US taxes? Not if it's GE.

          General Electric is a bank in drag.

          Bailed out by the taxpayers just like Citi, Bank of America, AIG, General Motors...

          Those are the companies that it should be compared with, not other industrial enterprises.
          Last edited by GRG55; March 26, 2011, 12:46 PM.

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          • #6
            Re: Does your corporation pay US taxes? Not if it's GE.

            Who is one of Obama's new business advisors?
            Is it not the CEO of GE

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            • #7
              Re: Does your corporation pay US taxes? Not if it's GE.

              Originally posted by jpetr48 View Post
              Who is one of Obama's new business advisors?
              Is it not the CEO of GE
              New?

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              • #8
                Re: Does your corporation pay US taxes? Not if it's GE.

                Yes within the past few months. Sounds like Jeff knows how to rise to the top or is it the bottom?
                http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/...-s-harsh-words

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                • #9
                  Re: Does your corporation pay US taxes? Not if it's GE.

                  Originally posted by jpetr48 View Post
                  Yes within the past few months. Sounds like Jeff knows how to rise to the top or is it the bottom?
                  http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/...-s-harsh-words
                  This may be the latest manifestation of that cozy relationship but I seriously doubt the CEO of General Electric, incumbent or prior inhabitants of that office, is a stranger to the White House or the halls of Congress...

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                  • #10
                    Re: Does your corporation pay US taxes? Not if it's GE.

                    Politicians have always been great horse-traders and the horse usually belongs to the Tax payers. There have been an explosion in Tax Credits under the guise of economic development that improves the our Community. One of the biggest evolutions in the Tax Credit game was the "New Market Tax Credit" signed in to law by President Bill Clinton. The best part of these Tax Credits is that the Power distribute them lies in the Hands of the Secretary of the Treasury and I imagine the President gets a wee bit of influence because of this arrangement.

                    Because Presidents love Horse trading and the more Horse Trading partners sometimes leads to bigger Campaign donations. There are several players involve in the Tax Credit schemes. Beneficiaries of New Market Tax Credits are Presidents (and other elected officials), Big Banks- fulfill their Community Redevelopment obligations and get a reduction in their Taxes Corporate Income Taxes of 40% of their Inventment, and CDEs/CDFI (Community Development Organizations).

                    The Losers are the Tax Payers - the reduction in Taxes by Big Banks has to be made up by Someone.

                    The key Players are the intermediaries called CDEs or CDFIs - Community Development Enterprise or Community Development Finance Institute - these are basically Non-profit Financing Companies that are given the Tax Credits from the US Treasury. This is how Community Organizing happens in 2011 - with Tax Credits from the US Treasury. Green For All - Mr Van Jones startup wouldn't exist without Tax Credits.

                    The Division of the US Treasury that runs the Tax Credit programs is called the www.CDFIFUND.GOV.

                    You'd be surprised to discover that former GE executives have found their way into leadership roles at CDE or CDFI (remember these are Non-profits that make their Money financing projects with incentives received from Tax Payers).

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                    • #11
                      Re: Does your corporation pay US taxes? Not if it's GE.

                      I give up

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                      • #12
                        Re: Does your corporation pay US taxes? Not if it's GE.

                        Mr. Chairman, Senator Hatch, and Members of the Committee---

                        Thank you for inviting me to testify here today on this important and difficult subject. The call for this hearing puts to this panel the question: ―Does the Tax System support Economic Efficiency, Job Creation and Broad-Based Economic Growth? The answer to that question is such an obvious and resounding ―No! that for a while I was puzzled why the committee had invited me, a lawyer, to join the distinguished group of economists testifying here today.

                        But then the answer dawned on me. The one area of the economy where the tax system is a robust job-creating machine is the area of tax return preparation and software, tax planning, tax controversies and tax compliance. The distortions in our tax law are so numerous, so rewarding to the well-advised, and frequently so complex to comprehend and comply with that they serve to produce millions of well-paying indoor jobs that not only require no heavy lifting, but also are immune from the ups and downs of the business cycle. In her most recent report, the National Taxpayer Advocate, Nina Olson, estimated that individuals and businesses spend 6.1 billion hours a year—full-time work for more than 3 million employees—on tax compliance alone. I was surprised that number is so small.

                        A week or so ago, The Wall Street Journal thought it was front-page news that some tax lawyers were billing clients more than $1,000 an hour. Investment bankers, along with some tax accountants and lawyers who read this article could not help but giggle: they view that $1,000 an hour number as embarrassingly low. They bill based on tax-savings results—by the boat load, not by the hour. Why do you think they make so much money when so many Americans are struggling just to pay this week‘s grocery and gas bills?

                        The tax profession is not inventing new drugs or medical devices, streamlining manufacturing or creating energy efficient vehicles. They are not, to borrow the President‘s felicitous phrase, helping this nation to ―win the future. But do not think for a minute that their clients are easily duped rubes. No, they get real value for what they pay; the fees their advisers charge are a small fraction of the tax savings they obtain.

                        http://finance.senate.gov/imo/media/...0mg%20test.pdf

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