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    There's been a lot of talk lately that the financial crisis was caused by a "failure of Capitalism," and that the solution is more regulation.

    I believe government policies were the primary cause of the crisis, and that more regulation will make things worse, not better. I found a very interesting hour-long talk by John Allison, formerly CEO of BB&T Bank (a large bank in the southeast), where he lays out an argument that supports this view, and thought it might be of interest to summarize it here. In case you're not familiar with Allison, he's one of the few good and honest bankers out there.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSxA-vtjRx0


    Federal Reserve

    The government effectively nationalized the monetary system in 1913 with the creation of the Fed. Now that the government owns and controls the monetary system, so if there's a problem, they must be involved.

    Before the Fed, most banks were leveraged about 1:1. After the Fed, commercial banks were leveraged 10:1, and investment banks were 30:1.

    In the early stages of the crisis, residential real estate values fell by 20% in the US. That destroyed $500B+ in capital in the financial services industry. At 10:1 leverage, that destroyed $5 trillion in liquidity (lending capacity). Appx $200B of that capital was eventually replaced, though, so the net loss of liquidity was about $3T. There is a fear now of another $100B decline in RE values, which would be another $1T loss of liquidity.

    Starting in the 1960s, the Vietnam war plus Johnson's Great Society plus a desire to not raise taxes resulted in the government using the Fed to print much more money. That eventually led to high inflation in the early 80s. Savings & Loans financed fixed rate mortgages with certificates of deposit (CDs). When interest rates were raised to fight inflation, the S&Ls costs went up hugely on the liability (CD) side, and they got killed; many S&Ls failed, eventually leading to the S&L crisis.

    FDIC

    When WaMu went under, the FDIC covered uninsured depositors, which caused WaMu debt holders to suffer huge losses. As a result, the capital markets for banks were effectively destroyed, since investors saw that they had no legal rights with regard to the Treasury, the Fed and the FDIC.

    Pick-a-payment (negative amortization) mortgages were a product that was only made possible by the guarantees afforded by the FDIC. All of the major players have failed (Countrywide, WaMu, Golden West).

    During the S&L crisis in the 80s, the FSLIC forced S&Ls to hedge their interest rate risk. However, that can't be done with home mortgages, since the banks can't force a prepayment. When interest rates eventually fell, the S&Ls lost billions more on their hedge positions. The FSLIC also strongly encouraged S&Ls to enter the commercial RE business. Since they had no experience in that business, even more S&Ls failed in the early 90s.

    Housing Policy

    When Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (F&F) first came on the scene in the post-early-90s market, they drove many financial intermediaries out of prime mortage markets, due to the government guarantees on debt that F&F had, which their competitors did not.

    The Community Housing Act (CRA), passed by Congress, required 50% of F&F's portfolios to be in "affordable housing" -- which caused huge market distortions.

    F&F were leveraged 1000:1 before they went broke, at which time they owed $5 trillion. That leverage, combined with the Federal guarantees, made their cost of capital well below their competitors'. As time went on, they also drove competitors out of the subprime market too, and pushed some of them, like Golden West, into the pick-a-payment business.

    F&F made the broker origination model possible. Brokers fed Countrywide, WaMu, etc, who then fed F&F to meet "affordable housing" goals, which helped keep their support in Congress.

    F&F are huge political contributors. Combined with the political desire to push "affordable housing," it was impossible to take any meaningul action against them, in spite of the fact that it was obvious years in advance that they were going broke.

    Investment bankers created financial innovations under the belief that the Fed would keep the risk in the financial markets low. Eventually, the originate and sell model replaced originate and hold. Perverse incentives were created for originators, which encouraged first sloppiness, then outright fraud. On top of that, the ratings agencies made huge ratings mistakes. The investment bankers make irresponsible decisions based on "greedy", dumb, pragmatic thinking: i.e. short-term: irrational / lacks integrity / evasion / arrogance.

    SEC

    The SEC sets the accounting rules used by banks and large financial institutions. Changes in accounting policies artificially created fluctations in accounting results.
    One of their rule changes was "fair value accounting," also known as mark-to-market. This concept is not in keeping with a free market, because it assumes a willing buyer, but not a willing seller. The result was that banks had to mark down assets to the value that deep-discounters were willing to pay, rather than keeping them at what they would be worth when the banks were willing to sell.

    This impaired the market, because potential buyers couldn't be sure that huge markdowns wouldn't be required after they bought something; it generated accounting risk.

    If fair value accounting was applied to all businesses in the US at year end 2009 as applied to financial intermediaries, 90% of them would be insolvent, given the lack of liquidity in the markets.

    Another accounting system issue is the management of loan loss reserves. The normal policy is to build up reserves in good times. But the SEC forced the use of mathematical models which prevented that approach. The models looked back at past experience. As a result, banks had very low loan losses going into the crisis. Many initial losses happened as a result of raising loss reserves -- which would not have happened if not for the SEC.

    The ratings agencies (S&P, Moody's and Fitch) are a government sanctioned monopoly, backed by the SEC. They did a terrible job rating mortgage instruments. The market responded by saying maybe they also failed at rating all sorts of other securities; there was a loss of confidence in the rating system, and liquidity suffered as a result.

    As an example, in the Auction Rate Municipal Bond Market insurance companies MBIA and Ambac provided funds to municipal projects such as hospital expansions. They also held a lot of mortgage debt. When mortgage debt ratings were found faulty, Ambac and MBIA's ratings remained AAA -- a failure of the ratings agencies. When this was noticed by the market, the source of funds for the insurance agencies dried up. Without sound ratings, how would an overseas investor expect to know whether some municipal project was financially sound?

    The rating agencies also failed when it came to CDOs and related credit instruments. Investment banks split them into separately saleable groups. They were making money selling A, B and C traunches. Then the Fed inverted the yield curve. Borrowing short at a high yield in order to buy long at a lower yield meant there would be a loss.

    The only assets the banks could hold that had a positive spread were the high-yielding Cs. The banks thought "the economy is projected to do well; just hold the Cs for now and sell them later." But the traunches were not rated correctly: A, B and C were really D-, F and F-. When the market started coming down, there were 100% losses on the Cs. Merrill Lynch, for example, got caught in this and took huge losses.

    Misregulation, not deregulation

    Regulatory cost was at an all-time high at the peak of the bubble in 2005 - 2007. Sarbanes Oxley (SOX) was supposed to eliminate fraud in the wake of WorldCom and Enron -- but the banking industry already had their own version of SOX imposed back in 1990 in response to the S&L crisis.

    The banking industry spends about $5B/yr complying with the Patriot Act. No terrorists have been captured as a result, nor are any likely to be in the future.

    There is an irrational belief in "models"; the risk in the tails of the assumed Gaussian curve aren't as small as the math would lead you to believe. Also, a 1% chance of something happening doesn't mean it will never happen.

    Models don't capture human behavior, particularly under stress. The Fed's models did not predict a recession, much less one of the current magnitude. Wachovia and Citigroup both failed when using models to manage risk.

    BASEL uses models to determine how much cash banks should hold. As a result, European banks had much less capital than US banks, so they went down even faster.

    Regulatory compliance is a huge misdirection of management energy -- away from running their businesses effectively and safely to making bureaucrats happy who know little or nothing about the industry.

    Banks regulators have actually tightened lending standards. The myth is that regulators are trying to encourage banks to make more loans. That might be true for the people at the top, but not the regulators. If you're a regulator, the worst thing that can happen is for one of your banks to get into trouble. So, there's a perverse incentive: be extremely conservative, including tightening credit standards.

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    Re: The cause of the financial crisis: government policies

    how about the financial crisis was caused by a "failure of the Capitalists manipulating the government for their own gain" ?

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      Re: The cause of the financial crisis: government policies

      key thread:

      National Homeownership Strategy

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        Re: The cause of the financial crisis: government policies

        Originally posted by scootie View Post
        how about the financial crisis was caused by a "failure of the Capitalists manipulating the government for their own gain" ?
        How about the financial crisis was caused by a "failure of the crooks manipulating the government for their own gain?" I consider myself a capitalist, but I had nothing to do with this mess. There are corrupt Capitalists as well as corrupt Socialists. It's the integrity of the people involved, not their economic philosophy. I'll agree capitalism has a natural tendency to evolve into corruption, but history shows us they don't have a monopoly on it.

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          Re: The cause of the financial crisis: government policies

          Originally posted by flintlock View Post
          How about the financial crisis was caused by a "failure of the crooks manipulating the government for their own gain?" I consider myself a capitalist, but I had nothing to do with this mess. There are corrupt Capitalists as well as corrupt Socialists. It's the integrity of the people involved, not their economic philosophy. I'll agree capitalism has a natural tendency to evolve into corruption, but history shows us they don't have a monopoly on it.
          I am in a particularly grey-'n-grumpy mood to-day because my Canadian Oil Sands Trust stock dropped >11% while oil gained. And why did COST drop? Answer: COST cut its dividend by 60%, nothing new with them. And why would COST cut its dividend again? Answer: The Bank of Canada has kept interest rates near zero, so COST could have a party with my retirement
          savings. So what did COST do with my investment; i.e, why would they cut their dividend again? Answer: They took care of "maintenaince issues" again.

          I am getting a picture here: The Bank of Canada is stealing my money...... How? The Bank of Canada is rewarding bad-behaviour on the part of corporations, crooks, and dead-beats with the Bank of Canada's, zero-interest rate policy.

          I am to hold COS-stock at a price-to-earnings multiple of >18 in order that I might receive a 1.85% per year dividend? What am I missing in this picture?

          And I am to take all of the risks of holding the stock and get a 1.85% per year dividend, maybe? This is Princeton University economics thanks to Marc Carney (at the Bank of Canada) who was hand-picked by Ben Bernanke from Princeton Univ?

          Yes, I am grey-'n-grumpy to-day, with grey skys in East Sooke, too!

          Want to inquire about BP stock? Husky Oil? Daylight Energy Trust? GE stock? (I see a pattern here!)

          Oh yes, I have some huge winners, but why should I have some huge looooooosers, too? At least in Las Vegas, you get the whores and the free-drinks.
          Last edited by Starving Steve; December 03, 2010, 07:20 PM.

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            Re: The cause of the financial crisis: government policies

            Originally posted by Sharky View Post
            There's been a lot of talk lately that the financial crisis was caused by a "failure of Capitalism," and that the solution is more regulation.
            Yes, there has been some talk like that, but there's also been a lot of talk lately that places the blame for the collapse of the banking industry entirely on excessive government regulation... kinda the same message you're pushing, eh, Sharky?

            Originally posted by Sharky View Post
            I believe government policies were the primary cause of the crisis, and that more regulation will make things worse, not better. I found a very interesting hour-long talk by John Allison, formerly CEO of BB&T Bank (a large bank in the southeast), where he lays out an argument that supports this view, and thought it might be of interest to summarize it here. In case you're not familiar with Allison, he's one of the few good and honest bankers out there.
            Well, he would say that, wouldn't he?

            You say that there are only a few good and honest bankers out there, but the thrust of your post is that none of the bankers need to be regulated.

            Which is it, Sharky? Are all bankers, or most bankers, or only a few bankers good and honest? I'd like to know before I make my next savings deposit.


            Originally posted by Sharky View Post
            There is an irrational belief in "models"; the risk in the tails of the assumed Gaussian curve aren't as small as the math would lead you to believe. Also, a 1% chance of something happening doesn't mean it will never happen.
            Actually, the risks in the tails of the bell curve are very close to what the math would lead you to believe. No one who understands rudimentary math would believe that a 1% chance of something happening means that the something will never happen. To the contrary, a 1% chance of something happening means that you can pretty well depend on something happening one time out of a hundred on average.

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              Re: The cause of the financial crisis: government policies

              Originally posted by Verrocchio View Post
              You say that there are only a few good and honest bankers out there, but the thrust of your post is that none of the bankers need to be regulated.

              Which is it, Sharky? Are all bankers, or most bankers, or only a few bankers good and honest?
              In my view, the problem is that intense government invasiveness into banking has resulted in corruption, fraud and huge market distortions. That doesn't mean that everyone who works in banking is dishonest, but it does cast a huge pall over the industry. The solution to invasive and corrupting regulation is not more of the same. The solution is to prosecute the fraudsters, remove the regulation, and let the market clean up what remains.

              BTW, if you listen carefully to what most of the banking industry is asking for, it's not complete deregulation. For example, they still want the Fed, the FDIC and the SEC -- they just want the rules to be bent to be more in their favor.

              Originally posted by Verrocchio View Post
              Actually, the risks in the tails of the bell curve are very close to what the math would lead you to believe.
              In the realm of economics, and stock pricing in particular, Mandelbrot showed pretty clearly that this isn't the case. Taleb's work in Black Swan is also of interest here. The reality of price distributions is that they have fat tails.

              Originally posted by Verrocchio View Post
              No one who understands rudimentary math would believe that a 1% chance of something happening means that the something will never happen. To the contrary, a 1% chance of something happening means that you can pretty well depend on something happening one time out of a hundred on average.
              I think Allison's point was that the people using the models don't understand rudimentary math. In their actions, they often behaved as though a 1% chance of something happening meant it would never happen.

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                Re: The cause of the financial crisis: government policies

                Originally posted by flintlock View Post
                How about the financial crisis was caused by a "failure of the crooks manipulating the government for their own gain?" I consider myself a capitalist, but I had nothing to do with this mess. There are corrupt Capitalists as well as corrupt Socialists. It's the integrity of the people involved, not their economic philosophy. I'll agree capitalism has a natural tendency to evolve into corruption, but history shows us they don't have a monopoly on it.


                this seems to imply that "Socialism with integrity" c[s][w]ould be better than Capitalism without it.

                in theory, government, integrity and corruption are all exogenous [or “givens”] to "Capitalism" like a forest or physics...and Capitalism should be able to thrive in this natural environment….the fact that the collapse happened shows that "Capitalists" would not respond to the pressure of exogenous forces in a way that did not jeopardize the health of the entire system. Re-labeling them crooks does not change the fact that the so-called Capitalist financial system was not robust enough to survive the overtrading, distress, revulsion, discredit and default but had to resort to short circuiting the “rules” by bailing out big loser bets with fresh $. One could argue that the “winners” are Capitalists in the sense that they allocated their resources [illegal or not] to maximize their gain; and you could equally argue that if the system were allowed to collapse, that would be capitalism as well…. In both cases it isn’t exactly a great marketing moment for the Western brand of “Capitalism”…that said, I agree that Capitalism is the only viable system, but we should not blame the government for it’s failure to be “fair”.

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                  Re: The cause of the financial crisis: government policies

                  True capitalism obviously does not exist in this case. As TBTF is not consistent with true capitalism.

                  this seems to imply that "Socialism with integrity" c[s][w]ould be better than Capitalism without it.
                  Not at all what I was trying to say. Capitalism is the engine that drives the economy. LAWS are what keep it in check. Obviously we live in an era when laws don't apply to everyone equally. That is THE problem. But Socialism lacks any economic driving force. It's all good in theory, but without that economic incentive, withers and dies.

                  Can anyone tell me what is the historical record of Socialism? By history I mean more than just the last century. Have there been successful long term economies in the past?

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                    Re: The cause of the financial crisis: government policies

                    Government and banks are in bed together. If we had HONEST government and HONEST bankers we wouldn't be having this discussion. The answer is not more or less regulation but rather EFFECTIVE regulation. This is Banana Republic stuff. "I pay you, you look the other way, you come work for me when you retire". Same thing is going on with big corporations, just not on the same level. The problem is not business, its the fact government can't turn down the bribes. Why? Because they are not strung up from telephone poles like Mussolini when they are caught. Same for the businessmen who do the bribing. At worst they get a few months in some resort prison, a fine, and then they retire to some private island with the money they buried in the back yard. Make the PEOPLE responsible accountable and this shit will stop.

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                      Re: The cause of the financial crisis: government policies

                      Originally posted by flintlock View Post
                      Government and banks are in bed together. If we had HONEST government and HONEST bankers we wouldn't be having this discussion.
                      I would happily settle for honest government, as bankers, merchants, vendors, dealers, etc. cannot be expected to be honest. Adam Smith in the Wealth of Nations wrote that dealers always seek a wider market and narrower competition and will endeavor to change the rules toward that end. He thought that any proposed change in the regulatory framework should be given close attention by the public and regarded with the utmost suspicion.

                      Wake up! Sober up! No more of the Kool-Aid for you, Citizens. The government in a republic is meant to serve the interests of the people, not the dealers!

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                        Re: The cause of the financial crisis: government policies

                        This is kind of a lame contribution to this debate, since I'm too hammered honestly to follow the thread above carefully - party season, sorry - but I did find this interview very illuminating:

                        H.W. Brands Discusses `American Colossus': Lewis Lapham

                        Oct 22, 2010

                        H. W. Brands, author and Dickson Allen Anderson Centennial Professor of History at the University of Texas in Austin, talks with Bloomberg's Lewis Lapham about his new book, ``American Colossus: The Triumph of Capitalism, 1865-1900.''

                        http://www.bloomberg.com/podcasts/lapham/

                        My takeaway from this was a realisation that perhaps the key virtues that I would ascribe to capitalism - competition, for example - were somewhat unimportant to the original creators of American capitalism.

                        Sobering stuff I hope.

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                          Re: The cause of the financial crisis: government policies

                          You missed a big cause - maybe the biggest cause: the government's risk-weighting in formulating capital requirements was faulty. And, if you understand the special interest politics involved in banking regulation, the "faults" were probably inserted deliberately. Here's a summary of what I mean:
                          An AAA-rated mortgage backed security worth $100 required only $2 in bank capital at the 8 percent Basel rate for adequately capitalized banks. $100 x .08 x .20 (the 20 percent risk weight assigned to asset-backed securities by the Recourse Rule) = $2. By contrast, a commercial loan of $100 required $8 of bank capital, because Basel gave such loans a 100 percent risk weight. $100 x 8 percent x 1.00 = $8. Similarly, a $100 whole mortgage retained by the bank required $4 of capital, because the Basel risk weight for unsecuritized mortgages was 50 percent. With these risk weightings, securitized mortgage-backed debt offered significant capital relief.
                          The above is lifted from http://causesofthecrisis.blogspot.com/

                          For a view of this problem from a slightly different angle, see also: http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/...tasy_test.html, http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/...ntasy_tes.html, and http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/...antasy_te.html.

                          The flaws in capital requirements are mostly common among the western world, which is likely why the housing bubble wasn't a US phenomenon - it was also a British, Spanish, Irish problem that coincided with huge increases in the balance sheets of banks not just in those countries, but also in France and Germany. This is actually more depressing than the thesis that it's merely a GSE problem; the real problem is far bigger than that. The creation of the GSEs was unwise and dishonest, but they're only one part of the whole problem, and only really a problem in the USA.

                          I should also add that, in Europe, regulations show great favoritism toward sovereign debt.

                          There is this wrong-headed and distracting debate between one side that blames regulations for being too soft, and another side that blames them for being too harsh. These guys aren't even looking at the right axis. The problem with the regulations is that they're too nonsensical. Harsher or easier wouldn't fix that. Personally I would rip out the entire system of capital requirements and replace it with a regime in which bank holding companies (and probably some other financial companies) are required to hold much more capital but allowed to buy whatever they want, with no government backing of any of their liabilities. Maybe something like a return to double-liability for shareholders of banks. Or think of the days when all Scottish banks were partnerships with unlimited liability. If banks were FULLY on the hook for their losses, rather than taxpayers on the hook, their investment activities would be quite different, and safer.

                          Edit: Sorry, after re-reading, I see you did give one sentence of mention to Basel. While admitting I'm not a major expert on the regulations, I don't agree with what you say. On capital requirements, the US banking regulatory regime is very close to Basel I, and that is no accident. Also, I don't think it matters what (if anything) Basel has to say about cash holdings. It's capitalization ratios that are important.
                          Last edited by snacky; December 05, 2010, 01:27 AM.

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                            Re: The cause of the financial crisis: government policies

                            Originally posted by Verrocchio View Post
                            I would happily settle for honest government, as bankers, merchants, vendors, dealers, etc. cannot be expected to be honest. Adam Smith in the Wealth of Nations wrote that dealers always seek a wider market and narrower competition and will endeavor to change the rules toward that end. He thought that any proposed change in the regulatory framework should be given close attention by the public and regarded with the utmost suspicion.

                            Wake up! Sober up! No more of the Kool-Aid for you, Citizens. The government in a republic is meant to serve the interests of the people, not the dealers!
                            I'm with you. I don't blame corporations for acting like corporations; would you blame a shark for voting itself more fish in its tank? Would you try to turn a lion into a vegetarian?

                            We as citizens have the duty to keep the GOVERNMENT accountable and not vote ourselves greater theft from and control over our neighbors and fellow countrymen. The only things the government should be trying to prevent/correct/act upon are unwarranted violence and fraud. Everything else is up to us, the people, and without the assistance of government.

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                              Re: The cause of the financial crisis: government policies

                              where is this perfect capitalist utopia that the government is waging war against?

                              If you're sane the answer is it doesn't exist. So what is the government doing? Well who can properly answer that in several volumes let alone a few lines in a thread but you can be sure that working with existing forms of power including capital in order to keep the wheels greased would deserve substantial attention in an objective attempt at an answer.

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