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    http://money.cnn.com/2010/11/12/news...Paul/index.htm
    NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Ben Bernanke has had his hands full since his first day on the job as Federal Reserve chairman nearly five years ago. It's about to get even tougher.
    His harshest critic on Capitol Hill, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, is about to become one of his overseers.


    With the Republicans coming to power, Paul, who would like to abolish the Fed and the nation's current monetary system, will become the chairman of the House Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy.
    If you've never heard of the committee before, you're not alone. But Paul promises you'll be hearing a lot more from it.
    "It's basically been a committee that's dealt with commemorative coins. I'm going to deal with monetary policy," he said.
    Paul doesn't think he'll be able to move his proposal to eliminate the Fed, or to allow Americans to use gold instead of paper money as currency. But he said he does intend to use his new position as "a mini-bully pulpit" to criticize Fed policy and call more attention to what he sees as its negative consequences. And he's confident that American voters are ready to delve into those monetary policy questions.
    "Five years ago they wouldn't have listened. Now they will," he said. "We've gained a lot of credibility in making the Federal Reserve an issue since the market collapse."
    And Paul vows to try again to authorize Congressional audits of the Fed's decisions on the economy, a proposal that passed the House last year but was essentially gutted from the final version of the financial regulatory overhaul legislation.
    "It will never be easy; the Fed has a lot of influence," he said of the audit legislation. "But there's a lot of life to it. We got further along than I ever expected."
    One way that Paul will bring pressure on Bernanke and his Fed allies is to hold hearings to give greater voice to Fed members -- like Kansas City Fed President Thomas Hoenig -- who disagree with the current monetary policy.
    "Just getting someone there willing to discuss their viewpoint and why they might dissent, I think that would be interesting," Paul said.
    A Fed spokesman did not respond to a request for comment for this story.
    Some economists worry that Paul having that kind of pulpit will hurt the Fed, and diminish its ability to fix an economy that still needs help.
    "From Ron Paul's standpoint, the Fed can't do anything right," said Lyle Gramley, a former Fed governor who is now senior economic advisor to the Potomac Research Group. "He can cause the Fed to lose a lot of public support. But it needs public support to do what it needs to do."
    The first highlighted part is off course a little jab at Paul. Its written in a way that makes it seem that Paul wants everyone to be using cold coins instead of paper money (which is not what a gold backed currency would be).

    The second and third highlighted comments are just laughable. What exactly has the fed done to fix the economy? and what does it need to do, they've done enough already!
    Last edited by tsetsefly; November 12, 2010, 12:35 PM.

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    Re: Bernanke's worst nightmare: Ron Paul

    The problem is, without any real power, this is just talk. These people could already give speeches, write blogs, twitter, etc. How is this any different?

    The committee needs the ability to make their lives miserable by forcing people like Bernanke to come testify under oath.

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    • #3
      Re: Bernanke's worst nightmare: Ron Paul

      Originally posted by blazespinnaker View Post
      The problem is, without any real power, this is just talk. These people could already give speeches, write blogs, twitter, etc. How is this any different?

      The committee needs the ability to make their lives miserable by forcing people like Bernanke to come testify under oath.
      Agree, my comment was more on the tone of the article:
      1. Those that want to return to godl standard want to use gold instead of paper currency
      2. Praising the Fed.

      It is incredible how the fed has any credibility left...

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      • #4
        Re: Bernanke's worst nightmare: Ron Paul

        The second and third highlighted comments are just laughable.
        That last quote is not so laughable at all, if you read it "correctly."

        That quote concludes:
        He can cause the Fed to lose a lot of public support. But it needs public support to do what it needs to do.
        I quite agree. The Fed needs public support to get away with stealing Trillions of dollars and still avoid a close encounter with a guillotine.
        Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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        • #5
          Re: Bernanke's worst nightmare: Ron Paul

          Senator Paul at least has a correct understanding of this position.

          He can't fire Bernanke nor abolish the Fed, because neither Bernanke nor the Fed work for Senator Paul. Nor for Congress. Nor for the President of the United States. Nor for the US Federal Government.

          Bernanke works for the banksters - and they 'hire' or 'fire' based on pre- and post- Fed consulting positions, speaking engagement, and grants.

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          • #6
            Re: Bernanke's worst nightmare: Ron Paul

            Originally posted by c1ue View Post
            He can't fire Bernanke nor abolish the Fed, because neither Bernanke nor the Fed work for Senator Paul. Nor for Congress. Nor for the President of the United States. Nor for the US Federal Government.
            Could not the Congress, if it chose, either with the President's vote or overriding his veto, abolish the Fed? Congress chartered the Fed initially.

            Granted ... such is not going to happen in anything resembling the current environment.
            Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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            • #7
              Re: Bernanke's worst nightmare: Ron Paul

              I think the fed works for power. They want to be a part of the monastery that runs the world. And they see the banking establishment as an extension of the fed. The fingers that that they use to run the world.

              You know, Ron Paul may one of the very few that actually speaks the truth, but I don't think he necessarily knows the solutions to the problems that plague us.

              Still, speaking the truth is the first step.

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              • #8
                Re: Bernanke's worst nightmare: Ron Paul

                Originally posted by TPC
                Could not the Congress, if it chose, either with the President's vote or overriding his veto, abolish the Fed? Congress chartered the Fed initially.

                Granted ... such is not going to happen in anything resembling the current environment.
                A filibuster-proof majority of Congress - both houses - does have the power to abolish the Fed.

                But with the House Finance Committee being 73 (or more) members, I fear this theoretical possibility is right up there on par with the 2/3rds of Californians necessary to raise taxes.

                i.e. not going to happen

                In any case, the original point was that Senator Paul himself has neither the authority nor the position to do the job.

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                • #9
                  Re: Bernanke's worst nightmare: Ron Paul

                  Originally posted by blazespinnaker View Post
                  Still, speaking the truth is the first step.
                  And when you're surrounded by greedy, evil sociopaths, it's sometimes the last step. I hope this good, good man survives.

                  Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Bernanke's worst nightmare: Ron Paul

                    Originally posted by shiny! View Post
                    And when you're surrounded by greedy, evil sociopaths, it's sometimes the last step. I hope this good, good man survives.
                    +1
                    Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Bernanke's worst nightmare: Ron Paul

                      Originally posted by c1ue View Post
                      A filibuster-proof majority of Congress - both houses - does have the power to abolish the Fed.

                      But with the House Finance Committee being 73 (or more) members, I fear this theoretical possibility is right up there on par with the 2/3rds of Californians necessary to raise taxes.

                      i.e. not going to happen

                      In any case, the original point was that Senator Paul himself has neither the authority nor the position to do the job.

                      The California 2/3 majority to pass taxes was just repealed by the enactment of Proposition 25, btw.

                      http://articles.latimes.com/2010/nov...props-20101104

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                      • #12
                        Re: Bernanke's worst nightmare: Ron Paul

                        The Fed's charter expires in 2013. If we're ticking along by then, what do you think the odds are that Congress won't renew it?

                        Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Bernanke's worst nightmare: Ron Paul

                          Originally posted by shiny! View Post
                          The Fed's charter expires in 2013. If we're ticking along by then, what do you think the odds are that Congress won't renew it?
                          ∞ to 1

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                          • #14
                            Re: Bernanke's worst nightmare: Ron Paul

                            Not only is Ron Paul, Ben Bernanke's worst nightmare, but the Peoples' Bank of China is Bernanke's worst nightmare. To-day, Nov 12, 2010 the entire quantitative-easing done by the Fed was un-done, apparently by the PBofC selling U.S. Treasury debt, of all durations from 30 days out to 30 years.

                            Normally, one would think Bernanke's QE has been a complete failure, but the friends and contacts Bernanke has in high places will keep him at the Fed for as long as possible. Meanwhile, interest rates are going-up, and money is going to be even tighter for home loans.

                            MV=0. Game-over for QE II. Welcome to de-flation ahead, especially for U.S. assets such as stocks and bonds and homes.

                            When in debt, the creditor dictates the terms, no matter what Ben Bernanke and his Fed might think. That sober lesson is going to be learned by all economists in America to-day, especially those at Princeton University.

                            When asked about QE II to-day, Ben Bernanke said that there were technical difficulties with the coupon-pass to the Fed, so QE II was delayed.

                            Kids: write this event down, and the date of the event was Nov 12, 2010.

                            Last edited by Starving Steve; November 12, 2010, 08:43 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Bernanke's worst nightmare: Ron Paul

                              Originally posted by shiny! View Post
                              The Fed's charter expires in 2013. If we're ticking along by then, what do you think the odds are that Congress won't renew it?
                              I can find no solid evidence of this claim that the Fed's charter expires in 2012 or 2013, shiny!. I rather doubt that the Federal Reserve has a fixed term charter.
                              Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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