Prime Minister Cameron video chats with Facebook's Zuckerberg on Deficits

[reggie]

Too scripted and just plain weird...

Facebook + 10 Downing Street = Cost Savings?

In what Facebook spokesman Andrew Noyes described as "the largest public engagement project ever launched by the British Government," Downing Street and Facebook announced a initiative today focused on reducing public spending. The partnership adds to the existing online "Spending Challenge" to engage the 26 million British citizens actively using Facebook to do something, namely contributing policy ideas. Notably, a link that the UK Treasury would also be partnering with WikiLeaks on its Spending Challenge is no longer active.

From where I sit, one primary takeaway from this little chat and "partnership" is that we are well underway in our convergence of government, private industry, and personal data systems into a unified online cloud, available to myriad of apps and data mining tools.

[thriftyandboringinohio]

Re: Prime Minister Cameron video chats with Facebook's Zuckerberg on Deficits

Too scripted and just plain weird...

From where I sit, one primary takeaway from this little chat and "partnership" is that we are well underway in our convergence of government, private industry, and personal data systems into a unified online cloud, available to myriad of apps and data mining tools.

and what could possibly go wrong with that alliance unified?

[chr5648]

Re: Prime Minister Cameron video chats with Facebook's Zuckerberg on Deficits

What good can come from an alliance between government and media? As if past evidence of government and media's unscrupulous behavior is not enough (fox, msnbc, cnbc, cnn)

[reggie]

Re: Prime Minister Cameron video chats with Facebook's Zuckerberg on Deficits

and what could possibly go wrong with that alliance unified?

Open connected data systems, such as what Soros has been pushing for via his Open Society Institute (based upon Karl Popper's work), facilitates forms of societal management and control via dataveillance and data mining systems. The more public and "private" data in the public cloud, the more pervasive and granular the control systems. This trajectory is based on Network Theory (ie. Control Theory) and the work produced by people like Norbert Weiner and John von Neuman.

Someone here recently posted an example of a Silicon Valley startup that is on the forefront of this push, supplying sophisticated dataveillance and data mining tools to the US Gov't.
http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...ing-technology

Also, Clay Shirky writes about this stuff, and has even published a book where he talks about organizing people without using Organizations.

[sandwind]

Re: Prime Minister Cameron video chats with Facebook's Zuckerberg on Deficits

They should prepare a plan how to pay the debt how much it will take etc... Just a detailed plan with timetable for 20 years etc to take the problem out. If they can't show the plan do I should take this people serious ? Just another soap opera maybe just more dramatic as times are different. They don't know what to do after actions of last goverments :-) ?