The Longer Trend

[jtabeb]

Warren Pollock NAILS it again.

"Markets must be paid for with empire. Capital resides in the life support needed to
make the poor rich through compressive anticipatory design science. Freedom
depends not on details but instead on the integrity of having overview.
I forecast that we are in a breakdown collapse of empire, not a depression. We must
work to reverse the myopic and dated concept of Malthusian shortage through integrity
and comprehensive anticipatory design science. Shortly we must either act or face the
consequence of societal embezzlement, a dark age."



http://jessel.100megsfree3.com/THELONGERTREND.pdf

[ThePythonicCow]

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That is one bloody fine rant. Thanks for posting.

I like this bit:

In the future our job will lie in picking up the pieces after the system collapses, and
looking to the Fuller Model. For now it resides in spreading “the word” in hopes of
preventing the coalescence of a new National Socialist movement, and any other “ists”
that might come along.

This is the best answer I've seen yet to the perennial question: "Yeah, but what do I do about it?"

[skyson]

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my favorite is this:

"Deluded Kool-Aid patriots buy some land and a cabin in a remote section of the United States to store canned food and practice marksmanship. In the future these folks willplay hosts to an A10 attack plane strafing their compound with a depleted uranium Gatling gun. They will look on in wonder as eight Black Hawk-rappelling commandos, a hundred policemen and twelve girl scouts assault their compound."

many itulipers are/incline to be this type of "deluded Kool-Aid GOLDEN patriots"? :eek:

[jtabeb]

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NO, we just want people to THINK we are (so that they think twice about messing with us) ;)

[chr5648]

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my favorite is this:

"Deluded Kool-Aid patriots buy some land and a cabin in a remote section of the United States to store canned food and practice marksmanship. In the future these folks willplay hosts to an A10 attack plane strafing their compound with a depleted uranium Gatling gun. They will look on in wonder as eight Black Hawk-rappelling commandos, a hundred policemen and twelve girl scouts assault their compound."

many itulipers are/incline to be this type of "deluded Kool-Aid GOLDEN patriots"? :eek:

True, this place is packed with crackpots.

[Spartacus]

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WTH ???
"compressive anticipatory design science"

????

ugh, yuck and ewww ... this was the best part of the article?

It does NOT make me want to click through & read, unless I want a dose of illogic meandering wrapped up in big words.

deconstructionist postmodern BS. I bet this guy worships Derrida or his descendants.

Warren Pollock NAILS it again.

"Markets must be paid for with empire. Capital resides in the life support needed to
make the poor rich through compressive anticipatory design science. Freedom
depends not on details but instead on the integrity of having overview.
I forecast that we are in a breakdown collapse of empire, not a depression. We must
work to reverse the myopic and dated concept of Malthusian shortage through integrity
and comprehensive anticipatory design science. Shortly we must either act or face the
consequence of societal embezzlement, a dark age."
http://jessel.100megsfree3.com/THELONGERTREND.pdf

[jtabeb]

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Did you read it? if you did, you are entitled to your opinion (no matter how error ridden it may be ;))

But if you didn't, I think he deserves a fair hearing and a full reading.

[flintlock]

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WTH ???
"compressive anticipatory design science"

????

ugh, yuck and ewww ... this was the best part of the article?

It does NOT make me want to click through & read, unless I want a dose of illogic meandering wrapped up in big words.

deconstructionist postmodern BS. I bet this guy worships Derrida or his descendants.

I read the same line and thought the same thing. But I did attempt to finish it. Maybe I'm just tired but I found most of it too much work to comprehend. Let's just say not my style of writing. From texting to police to kool-aid patriots?

[Spartacus]

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This guy had a paragraph to prove he's worth reading.

I have a huge stack of books to get through.
If I read similar stuff in any of those books, I'll do as I did with this: "NEXT!!!"

What I'm reading right now (taking a break to post this):
http://www.amazon.com/Being-Certain-.../dp/0312359209

I read the same line and thought the same thing. But I did attempt to finish it. Maybe I'm just tired but I found most of it too much work to comprehend. Let's just say not my style of writing.

I read the paragraph that was posted as a sample, not only the line. I quoted the line because it triggered my smell test & my laugh out loud at BS reflex.

From texting to police to kool-aid patriots?

heh ... thanks for confirming my prediction. The hallmarks of postmodernism.

The postmodernism generator:
http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernism_Generator

"In Pattern Recognition, Gibson examines cultural postcapitalist theory; in Idoru, although, he affirms neocapitalist dematerialism. It could be said that if dialectic postcapitalist theory holds, we have to choose between cultural postcapitalist theory and preconceptual materialism."

[jtabeb]

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This guy had a paragraph to prove he's worth reading.

I have a huge stack of books to get through.
If I read similar stuff in any of those books, I'll do as I did with this: "NEXT!!!"

What I'm reading right now (taking a break to post this):
http://www.amazon.com/Being-Certain-.../dp/0312359209




I read the paragraph that was posted as a sample, not only the line. I quoted the line because it triggered my smell test & my laugh out loud at BS reflex.



heh ... thanks for confirming my prediction. The hallmarks of postmodernism.

The postmodernism generator:
http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernism_Generator

"In Pattern Recognition, Gibson examines cultural postcapitalist theory; in Idoru, although, he affirms neocapitalist dematerialism. It could be said that if dialectic postcapitalist theory holds, we have to choose between cultural postcapitalist theory and preconceptual materialism."

That was a truly great Ad hominem attack, one of the best I've seen yet! (Elegantly belittling, I would even say)

(Now would you care to actually have a discourse on the material in question?)
Ad hominem abusive

Ad hominem abusive usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponent, but can also involve pointing out factual but ostensible character flaws or actions which are irrelevant to the opponent's argument. This tactic is logically fallacious because insults and even true negative facts about the opponent's personal character have nothing to do with the logical merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions.

[Spartacus]

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all my comments are on the writing. Don't know the author, don't know of the author.

If I insulted the author himself (not the writing) I apologize.

"prove he's worth reading" - these comments are strictly on what I read. No comment personally on the author.

That was a truly great Ad hominem attack, one of the best I've seen yet! (Elegantly belittling, I would even say)

Where did I insult the author specifically (not the writing, the author), so I'll know not to slip up like that in the future?

postmodernism is not an insult of a person or their character, so not an ad-hominem
"triggers my smell test" is not an insult of a person or their character, so not an ad-hominem
"laff reflex " is not an insult of a person or their character, so not an ad-hominem

I later realized a previous post had "worshipper of Derrida", which I meant as descriptive, but could be taken as insulting.

[dummass]

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JT

The article sucked.

[ThePythonicCow]

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My take is that this piece by Pollock is not intended to persuade so much as to present a colorful description and useful forecast to those already inclined to agree.

If one sets oneself the objective of persuading others, of spreading "the word" as he said, of this particular view of events, then one may have to search for other material, more accessible to those who presently disagree. Even then, it's not easy.

My primary tactic, attempted many times here with at best modest success is to comment on specific events or understandings in a manner that has some hope of bridging between the present perception of a reader or two, and some insight one step closer to my understanding.

Once you set off someone's BS detector (as no doubt I've often done myself) then communication usually ceases and the reason(s) presented to justify such mean little.

[jtabeb]

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Okay, I thought it was profound myself.

[ThePythonicCow]

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JT

The article sucked.

+1 for succinctness