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    Canada's brewing debt storm - - Globe and Mail

    For every $1 of disposable income, Canadians owe a record $1.47. How did it come to this?

    By Paul Waldie and Steve Ladurantaye
    From Saturday's Globe and Mail

    Canadian borrowers are fast approaching a day of reckoning.

    Lured by cheap money to buy up, buy in, expand and make over, families have pushed credit levels to a record high.

    Now, mortgage rates are beginning to creep up and the Bank of Canada is poised to retreat from the record-low interest rates it adopted to fight the recession and spur recovery.

    The end of the free-money era has left consumers more vulnerable than ever, and those who threw caution to the wind could soon face costs they can't handle.

    Household debt has surged three time faster than income in recent years and now stands at a record high of more than $1-trillion. Put another way, Canadians owe about $1.47 for every dollar of disposable income. Even more remarkably, they took on more debt during the slump - a first for a recession - because borrowing was so cheap.

    With debt levels this high, even a small hike in interest rates will be ugly for those whose incomes aren't rising fast enough to meet their day-to-day expenses.Their woes could have a snowball effect: As debt-strapped consumers pull back, their credit woes spill over into the broader economy and risk putting a damper on the recovery.

    For some, the trouble has already begun. John Silver, who runs Community Financial Counselling Services in Winnipeg, has seen his caseload increase 20 per cent from last year. "We re seeing more people coming in with more stress with regard to their debt," he said.

    Much of the recent rise in debt in Canada has been due to low interest rates, generally easier credit terms and fierce competition among lenders. Even when the recession hit in late 2008, Canadians remained far more confident than Americans in part because of a better housing market and stronger financial institutions. Consumer confidence in Canada is only about 20 per cent below where it was in 2007 whereas it's 60 per cent lower in the U.S.

    The higher confidence level and stronger banks meant Canadians were far more eager to borrow during the recession than Americans, said Benjamin Tal, senior economist at CIBC World Markets."I can offer you a very low mortgage in the United States and you won't take it," he said. "In Canada you jump on it, because confidence is high."

    Now though, "what I'm seeing is a consumer that is more sensitive to higher interest rates," he added.

    Most of the increased debt, roughly 70 per cent, has been in mortgages, reflecting the still hot housing market in much of the country. That has left many households struggling to meet monthly payments on hefty mortgages and more susceptible to rising rates. Families in Vancouver, for example, spend about 68 per cent of their disposable income on the cost of maintaining their house, compared to less than 40 per cent 10 years ago.

    "There's been a real frenzy just to get in [to a house] at all cost, because if you don't get in you may never get in," said Scott Hanah chief executive of the Credit Counselling Society, a non-profit group based in Vancouver that helps people sort out their debts.His organization is fielding about 4,000 calls a month and has seen a 10-per-cent increase this year in the number of people seeking help."Last year we saw an increase in activity of over 50 per cent. So to have a further 10 per cent increase on top of that is significant," he added.

    There are many people in the same position as James Laidlaw and his young family, who borrowed to build onto their Toronto home, adding construction costs on to a mortgage to help finance $250,000 in renovations and an expansion of 600 square feet.

    Even a jump in mortgage rates of just half a percentage point will mean an extra $1,700 a year for Mr. Laidlaw, his wife and two children."Every dollar counts and I'm already thinking about the other things that may suffer," he said. "Maybe we'll have to lose the vacation, or scale back Christmas.

    "Canadians used to be big savers and cautious borrowers. In 1982, Canadians socked away 20 per cent of their disposable income and per capita debt stood at about $5,500, according to Statistics Canada. By contrast, Americans were saving just 7.5 per cent of their disposable income at that time and borrowed $6,500 per capita.

    Savings and borrowing soon went in opposite directions in both countries and by 2002 debt levels surpassed disposable income for the first time. In 2005, the savings rate in Canada fell to 1.2 per cent, about the same as in the U.S. Meanwhile, per capital borrowing jumped to $28,390 in Canada and $48,700 in the U.S.Consumers are feeling the pinch. A survey last year by the Certified General Accountants Association of Canada showed 21 per cent of respondents could barely meet the interest payments on their loans. The group is about to release a similar survey this year and, said the group's chief executive Anthony Ariganello, the level of those struggling to cope has climbed to about 23 per cent.

    "We may be back into a recession [next year] because, remember, part of what has helped us get out of this recession was spending and consumer spending at that, and if people don't have money to spend we could be rapidly back in to where we started," he added.And while consumer spending and confidence have increased recently, both may be short lived, said CIBC's Mr. Tal.

    "There is a gap between confidence and ability," he said. "It's a gap between what's in your head and what's in your pocket. And this gap is, of course, a matter of concern because consumer confidence is high due to the fact that interest rates have been extremely low and people are able to finance those mortgages and those loans.

    "In a recent report, Mr. Tal concluded that "Canadian consumer fundamentals are weaker than they have been in almost 15 years."That's something that concerns officials at the Bank of Canada. If consumers run into trouble with their mortgage payments, that in turn can lead to "wider problems with other consumer loans, such as credit card debt," David Wolf, a Bank of Canada economist, said in a speech in January. "Consumers may also have to curtail other spending to cope with their debt burdens, creating adverse spillovers to the real economy.

    "Michael Hammond has already scaled back his plans. The Ottawa resident has a pre-approved mortgage of $220,000 and has been looking for a house. He nearly bought a $214,000 townhouse last week, but backed off because he's still considering the effect of eventual higher rates."I am mulling over mortgage scenarios in my head like crazy right now," he says. "It's a scary time to be looking for a house. I'm looking at three cheaper homes today because I am so worried about overextending myself and getting caught five years from now.

    "Neil Bigelow and his partner Tina Boudreau are also running over financial calculations as they prepare to buy their first home. The couple has been planning to buy a piece of land in Halifax and build their own home. But the prospect of rising rates has them worried about how much to borrow.

    "Right now I could probably get $200,000 mortgage," said Mr. Bigelow. "But what's going to happen down the road because interest rates are not going to stay where they are at."

    By the numbers
    68%: Average amount of disposable income households in Vancouver spend on the cost of a home
    44%: Average in Toronto
    35%: Average in Calgary
    36%: Average in Montreal
    30%: Average in Ottawa
    21%: Percentage of Canadians who say they can't manage their debt load
    147%: Debt-to-income ratio in Canada, a record high
    157%: Debt-to-income ratio in the United States
    70%: Percentage of debt held in mortgages in Canada

    Certified General Accountants Association of Canada, CIBC Economics, National Bank economics and Statistics Canada

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    Re: Canadian Personal Finances in Shambles

    Originally posted by mohican View Post
    ..."There is a gap between confidence and ability," he said. "It's a gap between what's in your head and what's in your pocket...

    ..."In a recent report, Mr. Tal concluded that "Canadian consumer fundamentals are weaker than they have been in almost 15 years. "That's something that concerns officials at the Bank of Canada...


    By the numbers
    68%: Average amount of disposable income households in Vancouver spend on the cost of a home
    44%: Average in Toronto
    35%: Average in Calgary
    36%: Average in Montreal
    30%: Average in Ottawa
    21%: Percentage of Canadians who say they can't manage their debt load
    147%: Debt-to-income ratio in Canada, a record high
    157%: Debt-to-income ratio in the United States
    70%: Percentage of debt held in mortgages in Canada

    Certified General Accountants Association of Canada, CIBC Economics, National Bank economics and Statistics Canada
    I'll bet it's a concern for officials at the Bank of Canada. They have a housing bubble in full inflation mode underway in this country and they are in the same trap as all Central Bankers in this situation...pop it now and take the blame, or try to jawbone through it starting with repeated denials that there's a housing bubble at all. What I can't understand is what the hell did Carney and his gang expect with an official interest rate holding at 0.25%...

    I very much get the impression that Canada is "one recession behind" the USA. In the 2001/2002 recession it was USA consumers that didn't cut back spending as they normally would in recession, and housing become the object of desire in the ensuing reflation. This recession and "recovery" it seems Canadians have taken a page from our American cousins.

    The worst part is that the banks now know that if they get into trouble with mortgages they WILL get bailed out by the Federal government through CMHC. And the banks never cut back on lending as long as house prices are still lofty...it's only after prices collapse that they pull the rug out from under borrowers [as they did in the early 1980s in Alberta]. Any bank lending in the Vancouver real estate market today should be charged with criminal activity. Anybody borrowing money to buy a Vancouver property today should have their head examined...
    Last edited by GRG55; April 17, 2010, 12:11 PM.

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      Re: Canadian Personal Finances in Shambles

      Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
      I'll bet it's a concern for officials at the Bank of Canada. They have a housing bubble in full inflation mode underway in this country and they are in the same trap as all Central Bankers in this situation...pop it now and take the blame, or try to jawbone through it starting with repeated denials that there's a housing bubble at all. What I can't understand is what the hell did Carney and his gang expect with an official interest rate holding at 0.25%...
      The worse part is that they even created a logo for it! (note how it looks just like a house ;)):



      Canada action plan: creating a bigger mess for the "next guys/gals" to save Harper and its cronies just a bit more time...until.


      BTW, here are decent blog on Vancouver (and Canada's) housing bubble. Seems some of us are aware (iTulip and EJ are given as a reference in these blogs btw ):

      The Greater Fool.

      Vancouver RE and then some.


      Oh (bwoohoo) Canada.
      Last edited by LargoWinch; April 17, 2010, 06:54 PM. Reason: grammar again...

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        Re: Canadian Personal Finances in Shambles

        http://money.canoe.ca/money/business...15-105528.html

        Saturday, April 17, 2010
        Canadian homes for sale hits record in March, CREA says

        April 15, 2010 | 10:55

        The number of re-sale houses on the market in Canada hit a record in March, with the new supply helping ease price pressures in the market, the Canadian Real Estate Association said.

        Some 97,663 properties were listed for sale on the Multiple Listing Service in March, that’s 20% higher than the previous March record set in 2008, CREA said.

        A total of 233,402 new listings have come on stream since the beginning of the year, and that’s more than any other first quarter on record, it said.

        The association said that while demand remains strong, there are signs the market is cooling off from the record-setting pace of the fourth quarter.

        Seasonally adjusted national home sales totaled 130,072 units in the first three months of 2010. That was a decline of 3.4% from the previous quarter but still the fourth-highest quarterly level on record, it said.

        Ontario, Quebec and Newfoundland & Labrador hit new records for the quarter, though the gains were offset by declines in British Colombia and Alberta, it said.

        "The erosion of housing affordability is crimping activity in some of Canada's priciest markets in the lower mainland of British Columbia," said CREA Chief Economist Gregory Klump. "Higher mortgage interest rates and the rise in new listings may also soon reduce some of the urgency to purchase in Toronto.”

        The national average price of a home was $340,920 in the month, just $300 from the record set last October. Compared with March last year, prices are 17.6% higher, the association said.
        CREA noted that year-on-year comparisons are still distorted by the artificially low level of the market this time last year.

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        • #5
          Re: Canadian Personal Finances in Shambles

          Clearly, it's time for EVERYONE to sell, and take some of that equity out...

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          • #6
            Re: Canadian Personal Finances in Shambles

            The same timing indicators that helped us see the top in the american market could help us in the canadian market. Being too early can be costly.

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              Re: Canadian Personal Finances in Shambles

              Originally posted by Anon21456 View Post
              The same timing indicators that helped us see the top in the american market could help us in the canadian market. Being too early can be costly.
              But not nearly as costly as trying to get out too late...

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                Re: Canadian Personal Finances in Shambles

                Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                But not nearly as costly as trying to get out too late...
                Nice
                I think that nobody who is a subscriber here would make such an error.
                Do you know where I could find canadian GDP statistics ? I've got FRED for the US and they clearly showed the downturn for real estate in 2007.

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                  Re: Canadian Personal Finances in Shambles

                  Originally posted by Anon21456 View Post
                  Nice

                  Do you know where I could find canadian GDP statistics ?
                  Anon, who cares about the General Dumb Public or aka government's produced GDP number? (the Canadian one at that).

                  Anyway, you can read about the lies you are looking for here.

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                    Re: Canadian Personal Finances in Shambles

                    I was thinking of the complete GDP numbers. For example, in the american GDP numbers you have "Private Residential Fixed Investment" which was quite useful in timing the top of the american bubble, even tough there's a little lag. Here it is :



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