the NYTimes does the Isreali Strike on Iran Rag

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I can't help thinking that maybe these wars are there so that the BRIC and other nations (particularly the GCC) realize that asking for their money back or even worse not buying First World debt (UK/USA/Italy/France, etc) would result in some pretext for war.

After all-after the un-necessarily ruthless destruction of Iraq (more ordinance dropped in several weeks than the entire Vietnamese war!) may have more to do about the realization by many that many of these so-called rich countries are more than flat broke. It may also explain why NATO is such a willing accomplice.

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i assumed the article was a plant, part of ratcheting up the threat level against the iranians.

The question is -- is it a 'plant' of true information or not? The NYT can be used to send messages, but some of the messages might nonetheless be true.

The message to the Iranians might be "Negotiate in good faith with us because we might not be able to restrain Israel, and Israel's calculation of their best interest is different than ours."

That could be true.

Was the public kerfuffle over settlement building staged to demonstrate that Israel doesn't always toe Washington's line when it comes to their sovereign identity or security? Or is this in fact the case, and the recent dust-up a symptom of that. I tend to think the tail wags the dog in America's security relationship with Israel, more often than not.

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In 1981, Israel destroyed Iraq’s nuclear reactor at Osirak, declaring it could not live with the chance the country would get a nuclear weapons capability. In 2007, it wiped out a North Korean-built reactor in Syria.

this shit gets more interesting by the day, in the day of cheap peak oil

Israel weighing construction of nuclear power plant

Landau said Israel, which has a population of 7.5 million and generates electricity mostly using imported coal and local and imported natural gas, is capable of building a nuclear reactor. But it would prefer to work with other countries.

Israel already has two reactors -- the secretive Dimona facility in the Negev desert, where it is widely assumed to have produced nuclear weapons, and a research reactor, open to international inspection, at Nahal Soreq near Tel Aviv.

Landau had discussed with French Energy Minister Jean-Louis Borloo the possibility of cooperating on building a nuclear plant, together with neighboring Jordan, his ministry said. The project would be overseen by France and use French technology.

Borloo voiced "great interest" and promised to discuss the idea with French President Nicolas Sarkozy, the ministry said.

Jordan rejects joint nuclear power project with Israel

"There are no Jordanian-Israeli projects in the field of nuclear energy," Khaled Tukan, head of Jordan's Atomic Energy Commission, told state-run Petra news agency in Paris, where he is taking part in a conference hosted by France.

Israeli officials said on Monday that a nuclear power plant to meet the region's energy needs and promote peace would be a joint project between Israel and Jordan, and that France would supervise and provide technology.

"It's an old proposal provided by the Israeli energy minister to his French counterpart several months ago," Tukan said.

"We had nothing to do with this proposal, and it's premature to talk about any Jordanian-Israeli nuclear cooperation before finding a solution to the Palestinian issue."