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  • Woodsman
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    Originally posted by santafe2 View Post
    As The Donald said, the game is rigged. Unless you can explain how Bernie will win...

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  • santafe2
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    Originally posted by Woodsman View Post
    I think it's a false binary with Bernie still in the game...
    As The Donald said, the game is rigged. Unless you can explain how Bernie will win 88% of the remaining unpledged delegates, his chances are about as good as Bush, (the smart one...), who also raised gobs of cash.

    The "super delegates" are the likes of Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. Currently they'll vote 469:31 for Clinton.

    All that aside. Assume there were no super delegates. Bernie is the king of uber-low turnout caucus states. Clinton is winning the popular vote among Democrats. As long as Clinton is breathing, she's winning the primary. Who will win the general is anyone's guess.

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  • ER59
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    I’ve listened to Trump’s speech yesterday, and in light of what’s been happening to the country for the last 20 years, most of it made sense to me.
    And given the other candidate, I will vote for Trump with both hands

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  • Woodsman
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    Originally posted by santafe2 View Post
    Cruz dropped out last night and Kasich dropped out this morning. There is only one person running on the Republican side and that person will win the nomination. Trump has his make up with Megyn meeting scheduled, he's working on the kinder, gentler version of The Donald and as Scott Adams noted, HRC's team is fighting the last battle when they switched from issues to persuasion and called Trump "too risky". He's the nominee because he's too risky. He will persuade with, "she's just more of the same". He'll make sure the National Inquirer slams Hilbil, (yup, sounds like hillbilly), every week. He will paint them as an ongoing criminal enterprise.

    And what will she say to those allegations? If Trump were a standard politician like Kasich she could point to the fact that Bush / Cheney were 10X the criminals the Clintons were ever accused of being but that won't work against Trump because he'll just use it as ammo.

    Clinton is in a box of her own making. She is a career politician with all the right traditional credentials, (Wellesley, Yale, First Lady, US Senator, Presidential candidate and Secretary of State). But a majority of Americans, both left and right, want change. I would have accepted change if it were Sanders, but not Trump. It remains to be seen if I'm in the minority. The idea that Trump is unelectable because of his negatives is only correct if one thinks Trump can't change the electorate's perception.

    It's a long six months. We know Hillary's a bit boring but she's measured and resilient. We're about to find out if Trump can campaign for 6 months without a Dean Scream moment.

    It will be fascinating to watch the real campaign now that there are really only two candidates. Let the mud slinging and the search for a home north of the border begin...
    I think it's a false binary with Bernie still in the game, still raising gobs of cash, and still winning. Now that it's Trump (barring any dirty tricks) I believe the only hope for Democrats beating Donald Trump is Bernie Sanders.

    Trump and Clinton are the least likable candidates fielded in American politics ever. What a contrast Sanders offers. He's honest and brings tremendous enthusiasm to new voters and he's raising more than enough money, without a super-PAC, to win the presidency. Sanders has demonstrated the ability to surpass Clinton in terms of fundraising, yet something less than 0.04% his donors have given the maximum money allowed. He experienced a greater boost in the polls than Clinton after the debates, and he's demonstrated the ability to win and win by landslides.

    National polls shows Sanders to be the much stronger contender in a general election against Trump. Sanders beats Trump 13.6 points, compared to 6.2 points for HillBill.



    And once Trump runs tens of millions of dollars of negative campaign ads that focus on the serial Clinton scandals investigated by the FBI like email-gate; millions in Wall Street cash for secret speeches; the foreign money that has been funneled to the Clinton Foundation; and the latest scandal with the hinky Hillary Victory Fund, Katie bar the door.

    When given the choice between Sanders or Clinton against Trump, both the GOP and Democratic Party elites choose Clinton, her scandals, and her record of failure. They choose her and so do the major media by their overt dismissal of Sanders and his remarkable, never anticipated success. They choose their privilege and perquisites, abandoning any pretext to principles or practicality, over an energized base of Americans championing a Sanders presidency and a future that works for all of us. That speaks volumes about the rotten corpses of both parties, not to mention the empty vessel that is HRC. It's really all I need to keep encouraging folks to support Sanders as the best candidate with the best plan until the last ballot is cast.

    That being said, better Trump wins than Hillary.
    Last edited by Woodsman; May 04, 2016, 03:47 PM.

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  • santafe2
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    Trump will be the Republican nominee

    Cruz dropped out last night and Kasich dropped out this morning. There is only one person running on the Republican side and that person will win the nomination. Trump has his make up with Megyn meeting scheduled, he's working on the kinder, gentler version of The Donald and as Scott Adams noted, HRC's team is fighting the last battle when they switched from issues to persuasion and called Trump "too risky". He's the nominee because he's too risky. He will persuade with, "she's just more of the same". He'll make sure the National Inquirer slams Hilbil, (yup, sounds like hillbilly), every week. He will paint them as an ongoing criminal enterprise.

    And what will she say to those allegations? If Trump were a standard politician like Kasich she could point to the fact that Bush / Cheney were 10X the criminals the Clintons were ever accused of being but that won't work against Trump because he'll just use it as ammo.

    Clinton is in a box of her own making. She is a career politician with all the right traditional credentials, (Wellesley, Yale, First Lady, US Senator, Presidential candidate and Secretary of State). But a majority of Americans, both left and right, want change. I would have accepted change if it were Sanders, but not Trump. It remains to be seen if I'm in the minority. The idea that Trump is unelectable because of his negatives is only correct if one thinks Trump can't change the electorate's perception.

    It's a long six months. We know Hillary's a bit boring but she's measured and resilient. We're about to find out if Trump can campaign for 6 months without a Dean Scream moment.

    It will be fascinating to watch the real campaign now that there are really only two candidates. Let the mud slinging and the search for a home north of the border begin...
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