First McCain vs Obama Debate

[Rajiv]

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This is a good one

Obama Roasts McCain at Al Smith Dinner

[Slimprofits]

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Obama didn't win this debate, but McCain lost it. Obama was too calm, while McCain was very passionate. Unfortunately for McCain, after the 1st 1/2 hour his passion turned to anger, condescension, and disdain. His body language was horrible and the flash polls showed his favorable ratings dropping among independents.

You can never learn very much from these debates, but my gut feeling is that Obama is going after the alt-e bubble and it will be one of the highest priorities. I think this could be the turning point from Ka to Poom. Given that treasury and the Fed is tossing trillions around like it was nothing, I don't think additional defecit spending is going to be an issue.

are you kidding me, Obama seemingly can't stop talking about the alt-e bubble themes.

[tombat1913]

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I simply cannot take the risk that an airhead named Sarah Palin, as likeable of a person as she is, would be a heartbeat away from the presidency. She is the least qualified person for the national executive as I have seen in my lifetime. Personally, I like her and think she has a lot of appealing attributes but not for national executive office. The President is our chief foreign policy maker and her knowledge of the world is barely skin deep. The thought of Palin, someday, sitting in the president's chair makes me shudder!

That's why they picked her, her "appealing attributes". I wish I was joking.

[metalman]

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nuff said...

[Tulpen]

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What do you think? Does either candidate express a good grasp the crisis facing our economy?

No, they are both smooth talkers.

This one is hilarious though:

[we_are_toast]

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Obama didn't win this debate, but McCain lost it. Obama was too calm, while McCain was very passionate. Unfortunately for McCain, after the 1st 1/2 hour his passion turned to anger, condescension, and disdain. His body language was horrible and the flash polls showed his favorable ratings dropping among independents.

You can never learn very much from these debates, but my gut feeling is that Obama is going after the alt-e bubble and it will be one of the highest priorities. I think this could be the turning point from Ka to Poom. Given that treasury and the Fed is tossing trillions around like it was nothing, I don't think additional defecit spending is going to be an issue.

[Slimprofits]

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Did you all catch it last night when McCain called Obama, "Senator Government"?

I was listening to the debate in the car and almost lost it in laughter.....Hello Freudian slip!

[marvenger]

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the reason the ROW runs muppet economies and has shitty governments is because the US is pulling the strings. If this crisis causes the US to lose grip of a few strings then the muppet economies and shitty governments will improve accordingly. Not sure if I'd want to be in a country with few resources and a drastically reduced manufacturing base in this situation.

[phirang]

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Who cares... so long as the ROW runs muppet economies and shitty governments, the Fed can print with impunity and retain surprisingly good purchasing power.

I've lost total interest in choosing between Chavez or Saddam, but I did bet $100 for fun on Chavez winning.

[Slimprofits]

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gave me pause, too. wide opening for a key rant... 'you assholes wrecked the economy!'

oh, i forgot. obama is fire econ financed, too.

I thought the wide-opening for that rant was when McCain laid the blame completely at the feet of Fannie, Freddie and the Dems. If not F.I.R.E. financed, Obama would have come back with something other than the unimaginative blame it on the last eight years, i.e. the Bush administration.

But to say that things won't get worse before they get better? That is just asinine at this point. edit: Obama quicly answered "no" as if it is guaranteed. I am the #1 proponent of the theory that one of the jobs of the President of USA, Inc. is to promote confidence, but he still campaigning. Inflation + Recession = change.

[metalman]

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Brokaw asked (Obama first) if the financial situation would get worse before getting better. Perfect opportunity for the next President to step up and deliver some truth to the Americans watching. Of course his answer was "No....." from there some talk about 21st century regulation.

Does winning or losing hinge on being honest in this case? I bet a lot of people groaned when he said that. It is getting worse by the minute how is that not obvious to anyone at this point?

gave me pause, too. wide opening for a key rant... 'you assholes wrecked the economy!'

oh, i forgot. obama is fire econ financed, too.

[Slimprofits]

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Brokaw asked (Obama first) if the financial situation would get worse before getting better. Perfect opportunity for the next President to step up and deliver some truth to the Americans watching. Of course his answer was "No....." from there some talk about 21st century regulation.

Does winning or losing hinge on being honest in this case? I bet a lot of people groaned when he said that. It is getting worse by the minute how is that not obvious to anyone at this point?

[sadsack]

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IMHO this election is (oh, the ironing!) best summed up by Marx:

"Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce."

Admittedly, as a Gen-Xer, my experience of the national political process is necessarily more limited than the more august iTulip members, but I can't recall a more farcical election in the last 30+ years as the present one.

If "Deep Capture" is to be believed, I think this election, whatever the outcome, is simply an acknowledgement of the fait accompli.

It's as if we're stuck in steerage on the Titanic, and we're hoping that Captain Bligh can save the ship . . .

:eek:

Hey, it was, in the end, a nice ~100 year party . . .

[Slimprofits]

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The two highlights of the debate for me were McCain's proposal for a mortgage bailout and the reaction of the hippies in the bar that I was watching it in when Obama said, "I am an favor of nuclear energy". Right before that I told them that he would say it and they didn't believe me. As I've said before here on Itulip, Obama is the guy that brings American Democrats lefties on board with nuclear power.

[JoeSixpack]

McPain

Looking forward to VP debate.