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  • touchring
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    Lot's of claims, but zero photographs.

    I don't doubt that Putin is supplying the rebels with weapons and tanks over the past 4 months, but just like MH17, sometimes, it's good to use some common sense when reading what MSM reports.

    Why would Putin send a convoy of tanks into Ukraine (in the same manner as the armored convoy rolling down the Red Square) at a time when there are hundreds of reporters from all over the world watching the border and the relief convoy?


    Last edited by touchring; August 16, 2014, 01:22 AM.

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  • gwynedd1
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    Originally posted by sutro View Post
    After Russia invades the Urkraine, like they did in Crimea, Czechoslovakia, Hungry etc., that plane will windup but a footnote to the larger events as they unfold. Sort of like Flights 007 and 655 (Russian and American shootdowns in the 80s).

    Anytime anyone mixes up the Soviet Union and Russia I know they are basically ignorant. Media-Persia, Parthian-Seleucid. What difference does it make right?
    Crimea is Russian. Czechoslovakia, Hungry etc. attacked the Soviet Union as an axis power which unfortunately for them backfired. Don't lose to a ruthless dictator like Stalin.


    Was Czechoslovakia a poor helpless puppet of the mean Germans?

    Look again:



    Tears of joy...

    And if the Soviet Union was not a Russian empire gone bad and turned against them, how do you explain a Georgist dictator who deported Russians into Kazakhstan? How do you explain most of the Soviet leadership being minorities? How do you explain the longest run being Ukrainian Soviet premiers? How do you explain targeting Russian culture like the Orthodox church, Korenizatsiya and "great russian chauvinism" = bad. Who was the puppet to whom? were the poor Czechoslovakian's, Hungarians and Romanians killing Soviets just poor puppets of the Germans , but not Russians Soviet puppets of a Eurasian polygot?

    Korenizatsiya nativization

    http://books.google.com/books?id=5Cq...zation&f=false

    You sure you got all that sorted out? You know how empires actually work?

    Of course Stalin 20 years later did restore "Russian" , cause he loved Russians? No he just decided it was the most practical way to run his empire with a dominant majority, much like the US has found little use for state power.
    Last edited by gwynedd1; August 15, 2014, 09:46 PM.

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  • Slimprofits
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    Originally posted by gwynedd1 View Post
    When there were reports of Russians massing at the border there was no trouble in releasing the photos. So lets see it, and the wreckage which should still be there. Until then why bother?


    See, just like here:
    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/sate...ukraine-border
    Gotta love the comments section on that one.

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  • goadam1
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    kiev spring
    Originally posted by sutro View Post
    After Russia invades the Urkraine, like they did in Crimea, Czechoslovakia, Hungry etc., that plane will windup but a footnote to the larger events as they unfold. Sort of like Flights 007 and 655 (Russian and American shootdowns in the 80s).

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  • sutro
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    Re: Ukraine attacks column of "Armored Russian vehicles"

    Originally posted by gwynedd1 View Post
    When there were reports of Russians massing at the border there was no trouble in releasing the photos. So lets see it, and the wreckage which should still be there. Until then why bother?


    See, just like here:
    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/sate...ukraine-border
    After Russia invades the Urkraine, like they did in Crimea, Czechoslovakia, Hungry etc., that plane will windup but a footnote to the larger events as they unfold. Sort of like Flights 007 and 655 (Russian and American shootdowns in the 80s).

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  • don
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    Are we closer to midnight?

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  • gwynedd1
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    Originally posted by Fox View Post
    Ukraine Says Russian Armored Vehicles Destroyed



    What are the odds the Ukraine military just shelled the relief convoy?

    Note the part I underlined. Ukraine customs already inspected the convoy. So what's with the "Moscow says". No bias here.

    Personally I can't believe the Russians actually invaded at this point. Ukraine and the West, especially the US, have become bubbling buffoons over the situation in Ukraine. I'm sure Putin is smart enough and patient enough to know that if he just sits back the West will screw-up on their own accord with out any help from him.

    Which quite frankly, I think they just did.

    However unlike shredded fragments of a passenger jet; the evidence in this event will be black and white:
    A) Russia was just caught invading Ukraine and we verge on WW3
    B) Ukraine military is incompetent, the West are arrogant fools and this will wind down with a parade of war crimes against Ukraine.

    With all we have seen so far I'm leaning towards B

    Let the fiasco of social media reconnaissance begin.

    When there were reports of Russians massing at the border there was no trouble in releasing the photos. So lets see it, and the wreckage which should still be there. Until then why bother?


    See, just like here:
    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/sate...ukraine-border

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  • Fox
    started a topic Ukraine attacks column of "Armored Russian vehicles"

    Ukraine attacks column of "Armored Russian vehicles"

    Ukraine Says Russian Armored Vehicles Destroyed

    Ukrainian artillery destroyed a large part of a column of armored vehicles that had been seen entering Ukraine from Russia, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said Friday.

    Ukraine, backed by Western capitals, has for weeks accused Russia of sending men and heavy weapons to pro-Russia rebels that hold several towns and cities in Ukraine's east.

    Late Thursday, reporters from two British newspapers said they had witnessed a column of around 20 vehicles crossing the border in an area outside the control of Ukrainian authorities.

    The reported episode was near where Russian trucks loaded with what Moscow says are relief supplies destined for eastern Ukraine had stopped for the night, adding to fears that the convoy was a prelude to a Russian military intervention. Russia has denied sending men and weapons into eastern Ukraine.
    What are the odds the Ukraine military just shelled the relief convoy?

    Note the part I underlined. Ukraine customs already inspected the convoy. So what's with the "Moscow says". No bias here.

    Personally I can't believe the Russians actually invaded at this point. Ukraine and the West, especially the US, have become bubbling buffoons over the situation in Ukraine. I'm sure Putin is smart enough and patient enough to know that if he just sits back the West will screw-up on their own accord with out any help from him.

    Which quite frankly, I think they just did.

    However unlike shredded fragments of a passenger jet; the evidence in this event will be black and white:
    A) Russia was just caught invading Ukraine and we verge on WW3
    B) Ukraine military is incompetent, the West are arrogant fools and this will wind down with a parade of war crimes against Ukraine.

    With all we have seen so far I'm leaning towards B

    Let the fiasco of social media reconnaissance begin.
    Last edited by Fox; August 15, 2014, 01:10 PM.
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