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Re: Bearish Information Re. Hussman
6/2/08 Wall Street Decides to Close Its Ears and Hum http://hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc080602.htm
Originally posted by Snips from Hussman's weekly article..
For now, we remain tightly hedged, since the overall profile of valuations and market action remains unfavorable. As I noted a couple of weeks ago, “The reality is that as recessions develop (and I continue to believe the U.S. faces a much more significant downturn than we've observed to date), the data can take months to accumulate to a compelling verdict, and in the meantime, speculative pressures can remain alive.”
Lest investors allow the weak but benign economic reports to create an “all clear” impression for the economy, the latest FDIC Quarterly Banking Profile, released last week, should encourage them not to close their ears and hum. I have to say that having read these regularly since the early 1990's, this is easily the most dismal report I've ever seen.
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The implications of this go far beyond whether or not the prices of financial stocks have “discounted” the lower potential earnings. See, this isn't just a problem of whether the stock prices of financial companies are right. The larger issue is what happens on the real side of the economy, in terms of spending and lending and economic activity. I can't overly stress the points made by Martin Feldstein (the head of the National Bureau of Economic Research, which officially dates U.S. recessions) just a few weeks ago:
“I'll tell you what worries me. We saw house prices overshoot by 60% relative to costs of building and relative to rents. And I worry about the possibility that they will keep falling; they will spiral downwards. In the same way that they went much too high, they could go much too low. And if that happens, then we are going to see individuals feeling a lot poorer, cutting back on their spending, defaulting on mortgages, and we're going to see the holders of those mortgages see their assets, their capital being cut and therefore their ability to make loans being cut.”
In short, investors appear to be viewing the recent period of weak but not terrible economic news as a signal that the worst is behind us and that clear conditions are ahead. That could very well provoke some self-feeding speculation, which we would observe first through an improvement in breadth and price/volume behavior. But even if we do see some fresh short-term speculation, the evidence suggests that the worst of the credit problems are still well ahead.
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Here and now, we remain defensive and very skeptical of the notion that the U.S. has skirted a downturn.
With regard to the “economic stimulus,” I remain convinced that consumers are sufficiently indebted, and concerned about that debt, to use the bulk of the tax rebates in hand for debt service. In equilibrium, the U.S. government will have issued more Treasury bonds, in order to finance a similar contraction in mortgage indebtedness. The effect of the “stimulus” will simply be a modest increase in the volume of Treasury debt held by the public, foreigners and financial institutions, and a modest decrease in the volume of mortgage debt held by the public, foreigners and financial institutions.
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Re: Bearish Information
We have created a custom avatar for you. Hope you like it. Feel free to change it if you wish.Originally posted by Jay View PostHey, you hurt my feelings Jim!;)
ER Doc, rent, sold a condo 2006, one daughter, boy on the way in October, sagittarius...
I am a bit bummed about the two or three other Jay's that have since registered, but oh well. Maybe if I could figure out that avatar it might help things.
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Hey, you hurt my feelings Jim!;)Originally posted by Jim Nickerson View PostI really detest not knowing anything about some of the jay-birds who post here. (Jay-birds = mild contempt) (goddammed idiots = serious contempt).
ER Doc, rent, sold a condo 2006, one daughter, boy on the way in October, sagittarius...
I am a bit bummed about the two or three other Jay's that have since registered, but oh well. Maybe if I could figure out that avatar it might help things.
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US Chicago PMI for April '08
An improvement, but still below 50...
Chicago PMI index 48.3 in April vs 48.2 in March
Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:48am EDT
April 30 (Reuters) - The National Association of Purchasing
Management-Chicago said on Wednesday its index of Midwest
business activity rose in April to 48.3 from a seasonally
adjusted 48.2 in March.
Economists polled by Reuters had forecast a April figure of47.5...
http://www.reuters.com/article/econo...50057020080430
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Re: Canada and USA 1st Q GDP trends...
I figure there is more lying going on with US data than with Canadian, but then I am not that familiar with Canadian politicians and statistic monitors.Originally posted by GRG55 View PostWell, well. The commodity producing, oil exporting country to the north experiences economic contraction...
...while in stark contrast Reuters reported the following yesterday for the neighbour to the south. Go figure...:pCanada's Economy Unexpectedly Shrank in First Quarter
By Greg Quinn
May 30 (Bloomberg) -- Canada's economy unexpectedly shrank between January and March for the first quarterly drop in almost five years, giving the Bank of Canada more reason to cut borrowing costs again next month.
Gross domestic product contracted at a 0.3 percent annualized rate in the first quarter to C$1.33 trillion ($1.34 trillion), Statistics Canada said today in Ottawa. Economists surveyed by Bloomberg anticipated the growth rate would slow to 0.4 percent from 0.8 percent in the fourth quarter, according to the median of 22 estimates...
...The currency weakened 0.8 percent to 99.55 cents per U.S. dollar at 8:42 a.m. in Toronto, from yesterday's 98.77 cents...
...Exporters have been hurt by weaker U.S. consumer demand after the subprime mortgage market collapsed last year, and by the Canadian dollar's appreciation to a record...
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...w&refer=canada
U.S. GDP growth revised higher, jobless claims up
(Updates with market close)
* U.S. Q1 GDP growth revised to 0.9 pct from 0.6 pct
* Imports fall, commercial building improves
* Inventory drop sets stage for growth in future quarters
* Jobless claims rise more than expected
By David Lawder
WASHINGTON, May 29 (Reuters)- The U.S. economy grew a bit faster than first thought in the first quarter as demand for foreign goods fell and commercial building picked up, adding to evidence that the United States may stave off recession.
The Commerce Department said on Thursday that gross domestic product grew at a 0.9 percent annual rate in the first quarter. While sluggish, that marked an upward revision from the anemic 0.6 percent rate estimated a month ago and an acceleration from the fourth quarter's 0.6 percent gain.
The revision reflected a narrower trade deficit as more domestic spending went to U.S.-made goods, which helped offset a reduction in business inventories. Nonresidential building activity was stronger than first reported as well...
http://www.reuters.com/article/econo...45434020080529
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Canada and USA 1st Q GDP trends...
Well, well. The commodity producing, oil exporting country to the north experiences economic contraction...
Canada's Economy Unexpectedly Shrank in First Quarter
By Greg Quinn
May 30 (Bloomberg) -- Canada's economy unexpectedly shrank between January and March for the first quarterly drop in almost five years, giving the Bank of Canada more reason to cut borrowing costs again next month.
Gross domestic product contracted at a 0.3 percent annualized rate in the first quarter to C$1.33 trillion ($1.34 trillion), Statistics Canada said today in Ottawa. Economists surveyed by Bloomberg anticipated the growth rate would slow to 0.4 percent from 0.8 percent in the fourth quarter, according to the median of 22 estimates...
...The currency weakened 0.8 percent to 99.55 cents per U.S. dollar at 8:42 a.m. in Toronto, from yesterday's 98.77 cents...
...Exporters have been hurt by weaker U.S. consumer demand after the subprime mortgage market collapsed last year, and by the Canadian dollar's appreciation to a record...
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...w&refer=canada
...while in stark contrast Reuters reported the following yesterday for the neighbour to the south. Go figure...:p
U.S. GDP growth revised higher, jobless claims up
(Updates with market close)
* U.S. Q1 GDP growth revised to 0.9 pct from 0.6 pct
* Imports fall, commercial building improves
* Inventory drop sets stage for growth in future quarters
* Jobless claims rise more than expected
By David Lawder
WASHINGTON, May 29 (Reuters)- The U.S. economy grew a bit faster than first thought in the first quarter as demand for foreign goods fell and commercial building picked up, adding to evidence that the United States may stave off recession.
The Commerce Department said on Thursday that gross domestic product grew at a 0.9 percent annual rate in the first quarter. While sluggish, that marked an upward revision from the anemic 0.6 percent rate estimated a month ago and an acceleration from the fourth quarter's 0.6 percent gain.
The revision reflected a narrower trade deficit as more domestic spending went to U.S.-made goods, which helped offset a reduction in business inventories. Nonresidential building activity was stronger than first reported as well...
http://www.reuters.com/article/econo...45434020080529
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Re: Bearish Information
Capital One's 3 main businesses are credit cards, auto loans, and home-equity lines of credit. Guess which direction I think it's going in? My only regret is not having shorted it each time it's ridden the coattails of Visa and Mastercard above $50, completely different businesses.Originally posted by babbittd View Post
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Re: Bearish Information
Check out the May 2008 Credit Quality Report from Wells Fargo (.pdf)
Consumer credit outstanding rose $15.3 billion in March (chart 1). Revolving debt, which includes credit cards, rose $6.3 billion, more than the $3.9 billion increase in February. Non-revolving debt, which includes auto loans, jumped $9.0 billion following a $2.6 billion increase in February. Falling home prices and slowing job growth are squeezing household wealth (chart 2). Thus, consumers are increasingly turning to credit cards and other forms of debt to finance their purchases.
Real consumer spending growth had been trending down for two years before credit card use ramped up and saved the day, at least for awhile (chart 3). However, over the last six months, spending growth has slowed even further, suggesting credit card use has not been able to fully compensate for slowing home equity withdrawal and job growth. The jump in credit card use amidst a slowing economy has led to rising delinquency rates on credit cards (chart 4).
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Re: Bearish Information Re. Also Hussman
http://www.hussman.net/wmc/wmc080527.htm
5/27/08
Hussman Total Return Fund was recently allocated about 15% to gold shares.Originally posted by HussmanIn the Strategic Growth Fund, we finally closed out our oil stock positions on the price strength of recent weeks. In the Strategic Total Return Fund, we reduced our exposure to precious metals shares to just about 2% of Fund assets a few weeks ago as well. Investors wishing to maintain commodity exposure can easily establish it elsewhere. My intent here is not to open an argument with speculators about the prospects for oil and other commodities, but to communicate that we no longer hold them, and that I believe the downside risks have increased significantly in those markets.
Edit: According to the semi-annual report from Hussman's funds on 12/31/2007, the larger Strategic Growth Fund had a 12.27% allocation in "Oil & Gas." That was divided between Chevron,
ConocoPhillips, ENSCO International, Exxon Mobil, Marathon Oil, Royal Dutch Shell, Tesoro, and Valero.Last edited by Jim Nickerson; May 26, 2008, 11:37 PM.
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Re: Bearish Information Re. John Hussman
5/26/08
May 27, 2008 A Clue from Contango
John P. Hussman, Ph.D.
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Read on to see comments on oil and contango. http://www.hussman.net/wmc/wmc080527.htmOriginally posted by John Hussman
I noted last week that “if the consolidation to clear the current overbought condition is fairly shallow, it will suggest that speculation might begin to feed on itself for a while. A sharp selloff from current levels, particularly on lopsided negative breadth, would suggest that the second round of negative financial and economic news is somewhat nearer.” With the Dow down over 500 points last week, and declining issues among NYSE common stocks (not composite breadth, which includes preferreds) outpacing advancing issues by 2, 3, and 5-to-1 on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday, respectively, we should probably brace for a second round of negative developments.
In an interview published on Saturday, Warren Buffett said the U.S. economy is “already in recession.” He suggested that however a recession might be defined by various economists, “people are already feeling the effects. It will be deeper and last longer than many think."
Meanwhile, credit default swaps blew out last week in a manner that we haven't seen since the week before the Bear Stearns debacle. I included some of these charts a few weeks ago. The steep rise in swap spreads this week was ominous. The apparent internal deterioration of credit conditions is a stark contrast to what investors have come to believe (hope) during the relief rally since March. The stocks of many investment banks have now plunged to the same or lower levels than they were at prior to the Fed's intervention with Bear Stearns.
Lehman Brothers Credit Default Swap Spread

Adding some color to the picture about Lehman Brothers, Steven Einhorn of Greenlight Capital noted last week that during the first quarter, Lehman took writedowns of just $200 million on a $6.5 billion portfolio of collateralized debt obligations. Yet Lehman's quarterly filing acknowledged, in a footnote, that about 25% of those CDOs were junk rated.
While some investment banks have taken much larger writedowns to-date, my impression continues to be that round-two is approaching fast.
Lest it appear that I'm singling out Lehman Brothers, I should emphasize that credit default swaps blew out very broadly last week, but the largest spikes were at the institutions with the highest gross leverage ratios (total assets to capital).
Merrill Lynch Credit Default Swap Spread

I continue to believe that liquidity problems, delinquencies, foreclosures, writedowns, and credit defaults are still in the early innings. Martin Feldstein's recent comments should not be missed – the Fed has already committed half of its balance sheet to questionable credits, and there is little more the Fed can do to help this situation.Last edited by Jim Nickerson; May 26, 2008, 11:14 PM.
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Re: Bearish Information Re. David Fuller &b Bill King
http://www.investmentpostcards.com/2...008/#more-1207
Via du Plessis:
David Fuller (Fullermoney): Surge in oil prices bearish for stock markets
And then there is the other side that suggests some pull back in oil.Originally posted by Fuller“Rising oil prices are usually a headwind for most stock markets, although less so when the advance is gradual. However crude oil has risen more rapidly recently and today’s move represents trend acceleration. We know from past experience that such moves are unsustainable beyond the short term. They are climactic and therefore followed by sharp reactions. However there is still no evidence that oil has peaked.
“As the world’s most important commodity by far, this surge in price is bearish for the majority of stock markets. Consequently I would assume that rallies seen since March have either been capped or are unlikely to make much upward progress until investors see evidence that crude oil has commenced a medium-term correction.”
Source: David Fuller, Fullermoney, May 21, 2008.
Bill King (The King Report): Top could be forming in oil price
Source: Bill King, The King Report, May 20, 2008.Originally posted by King“A very significant top in oil and energy could be forming and fundamentals appear to be changing. Crude oil and gasoline are rallying now on the strong seasonal tendency to rally into the start of ‘drive season’, which is Memorial Day Weekend. Then there is usually a retrenchment and another rally.
“The past few years, gasoline has topped after the 4th of July. In 2006 Goldman sharply cut the weighting of gasoline in its commodity indices, which forced funds to sell.
“Last year, gasoline soared after the Labor Day weekend, which is the end of drive season and the strong seasonal gasoline bullishness. This was short covering and reacquisition of long positions because of the underlying fundamental strength in energy. But the global economy is much softer this year.
“Media accounts have Iran and China stockpiling crude oil in tankers and elsewhere. Iran fears that either Bush or Israel might strike before Obama takes over.
“China is stockpiling energy and food for the Olympics. At some point during the Olympics in August, China should know if it has surplus inventory above Olympic demand and possibly earthquake-induced demand. Then China might start dumping surplus commodities – not only to lessen inventories but to push commodities lower to generate better buying opportunities later.
“China has been very adroit in hammering copper and key commodities when prices get too exuberant. Then they buy after the collapse and enter into long-term contracts with producers at the better prices.
“Ergo, there could be short-term tops in oil and gasoline next week and near the 4th of July and then a more significant peak near the Olympics and/or Labor Day.”
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Re: Bearish Information Re. David Tice of Prudent Bear Fund
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...SGU&refer=home 5/21/08
Lots more in the link.Tice, founder of the Prudent Bear Fund, is in his element as short sellers savor a rare advantage in their tug of war with Wall Street's bulls. Tice, an economic history addict who lines his office bookshelves with volumes on the Great Depression, is the most bearish of bears. He's been preaching for almost a decade that runaway mortgage lending would blow up.
Blaming Greenspan
Tice blames former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, who led the central bank as it ratcheted down the benchmark U.S. interest rate to 1 percent in June 2003 from 5 percent in March 2001 and held it there for a year. Borrowers rushed in and mortgage debt soared to $1.4 trillion in 2006, double the $708 billion in 2001, according to Fed data.
Now, Tice says the Standard & Poor's 500 Index may tumble 40 percent during the next 12-24 months as the credit crisis undermines the economy, bankrupts households and companies and whacks profits. The drop would be worse than the 37 percent plunge in the index from 2000 through 2002.
Tice predicts U.S. equities will enter a bear market that may exceed the 15-year slump from 1965 to 1980. Moreover, he says if the Fed and Wall Street don't break their addiction to easy credit, the economy will eventually crash in a depression -- a condition marked by reduced purchasing power, unemployment and corporate failures.
The U.S. can't continue to inflate bubbles in stocks, real estate and other assets without crippling the financial system, Tice says.
Here's a bullish opinion in the same article.
More bear stuff.Tice and fellow bears had better savor their moment because the bulls are poised to take back the market, says Robert Olstein, a money manager in Purchase, New York, who runs the $1.2 billion Olstein All Cap Value Fund. The S&P 500 has rallied 11 percent since Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke's unprecedented moves to stabilize the U.S. financial system began in March.
In addition to backing JPMorgan Chase & Co.'s takeover of Bear Stearns, the Fed for the first time since the Great Depression allowed securities firms to borrow cash at the same rate as commercial banks.
By March 20, Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc., among others, tapped $28.8 billion in cheap Fed loans, bolstering confidence that Wall Street would overcome the crisis.
`Butt Kicking'
``Don't bet against the Fed,'' says Olstein, 66, whose fund is down 6 percent this year. ``The worst is over, and the market is looking to turn; and when it takes off, the bears are going to be in for a good butt kicking.''
Richard Yamarone, chief economist at New York-based equity analysis firm Argus Research Co., says the $152 billion package of tax rebates and incentives that lawmakers passed this year will set off a shopping spree.
Another silver lining: Companies in the S&P 500 have almost doubled the average level of cash and equivalents in their coffers since 2001, to $2.05 billion from $1.08 billion, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. After gross domestic product inched ahead 0.6 percent in the first quarter, Yamarone is forecasting the economy will eke out a 1.7 percent increase by year's end.
Some of you may read Doug Noland's comments often published on safehaven.com. Noland works with Tice.End of Golden Age
The credit meltdown runs so deep that the prosperous years on Wall Street that began in 1982 are probably drawing to a close, says Barton Biggs, 75, managing partner at Traxis Partners LLC, a New York- based hedge fund.
``We had a spectacular era of financial success that was extended by the subprime mortgage mania to 2007,'' says Biggs, who was chief global strategist at Morgan Stanley until 2003. ``But I think the golden age of Wall Street is over.''
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http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...C5F0CBF9B1F%7D
Credit crunch to stretch into 2009: analyst
Pain is far from over for U.S. banks, Oppenheimer's Whitney says
BOSTON (MarketWatch) -- Shares of large-cap U.S. banking stocks traded lower Tuesday after analysts at Oppenheimer & Co. said they see the turmoil in credit markets lingering at least into next year.
"Our view is that the credit crisis will extend well into 2009 and perhaps beyond, and although the complexion will change, the net effect will be the same: three years of multibillion-dollar revenue reversals," the
Oppenheimer analysts wrote in a note, led by Meredith Whitney. Whitney has built up credibility for her bearish and prescient calls on Citigroup Inc. (C: Citigroup, Inc)and other Wall Street giants during the credit storm.
Oppenheimer warns of billions of dollars of additional asset write-downs and loan-loss reserves as a result of underwriting excesses. "We estimate that by the end of 2009, over $170 billion of reserve builds will flow through bank earnings on top of 'business as usual' loan-loss provisions," Whitney wrote. "Multitrillion dollars of loans were underwritten with the false assumption that home prices would go up in perpetuity on a national basis," the analyst said.
Other headwinds include "unprecedented leverage" and too much dependence on the securitization market for consumer liquidity.
As we see no near- or medium-term comeback in securitization volumes, we believe losses will only accelerate further and far worse than even the most draconian estimates," according to Whitney. "Due to continued deterioration in consumer liquidity, we are raising our loss expectations significantly for the group and lowering our earnings estimates significantly."
The firm's analysts said that their profit estimates for U.S. banks for 2008 and 2009 are now 72% and 37% below consensus Wall Street forecasts, respectively. Oppenheimer has underperform ratings on Citigroup, Merrill Lynch & Co. (MER: Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc and Wells Fargo % Co.WFC)
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I agree with your comments on Jim Rogers and am aware of his recent move to Singapore. Wife and I are talking about moving out of the country within 2 years or so...that discussion is getting more serious as her business has been liquidated.
Am looking at the higher altitude northern region of Panama, with its favorable climate, , abundant water, good soil and numerous outdoor activities as a possibility. I think water and fertile soil will become like gold in the coming years.
That brings up another discussion; how many here see a very major depression in the USA happening within the next 5 years or so? Personally I think we are in for a shit storm of a bad economy similar to or worse than the 29 depression.
I just don’t see any easy way up and out of the problems.
USA Today had a front page article last Friday that said divided up evenly among households, our nations debt is 530k per family. I tend not to trust any government numbers, but that number is insanity. There’s just no way that can be paid back.
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