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  • grapejelly
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    Originally posted by Sapiens
    Hold -Printed currency, not "cash" in a bank account.

    Hold Physical Gold and Silver

    Hold T-bills, not bonds, not CDs.
    this is pretty much what I am doing except I also have some gold and silver mining stocks.

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  • EJ
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    Originally posted by Finster
    Problem is ... there is no such thing as being invested in nothing. Give your assets to the brotherhood ... take a vow of poverty ...

    ... doesn't matter; if you think holding cash is tantamount to investing in nothing, you have a rude awakening awaiting you ...
    That's fine for you and I. But Grantham is writing to portfolio managers. They can't hold much cash for long, and I don't know of any that is ever 100% cash. They need to be invested.

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  • Finster
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    Originally posted by EJ
    That is essentially the message in Jeremy Grantham's letter to portfolio managers today. The only assets that make sense to hold now are cash and sovereign debt. However, if you are a portfolio manager, career risk prevents you from following this advice to a tee...
    Problem is ... there is no such thing as being invested in nothing. Give your assets to the brotherhood ... take a vow of poverty ...

    ... doesn't matter; if you think holding cash is tantamount to investing in nothing, you have a rude awakening awaiting you ...

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  • jk
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    grantham is saying all asset classes - equities, commodities, real esate - are, globally, in a bubble. thus they will, at some point, sell-off. i.e. they will go down relative to cash. [have i finally got it, finster?]

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  • raja
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    The only assets that make sense to hold now are cash and sovereign debt.
    Did Grantham say what kind of cash and sovereign debt?

    What about gold?

    If Poom is is a period of high inflation, I would think cash would be exactly the wrong place to be . . . . or maybe Grantham's thinking deflation?

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  • Sapiens
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    Hold -Printed currency, not "cash" in a bank account.

    Hold Physical Gold and Silver

    Hold T-bills, not bonds, not CDs.

    Wait for those in panic to seek safety, pick them off when you think is right.

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  • jk
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    "In my previous commentary I concluded that Ka-Poom is not tradable. It may be too short. In fact, the disinflation may have even already come and gone. I only know how to confirm the begining of the Poom, not the end of the Ka." ej 9/19/06

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  • EJ
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    Sell Everything

    Sell Everything

    Move to Bonds and Cash


    That is essentially the message in Jeremy Grantham's letter to portfolio managers today. The only assets that make sense to hold now are cash and sovereign debt. However, if you are a portfolio manager, career risk prevents you from following this advice to a tee.
    All the World's a Bubble
    Friday April 27, 2007 (TheStreet.com)

    While euphoria sweeps stock markets here and worldwide, there are at least a few voices of dissent.

    One, unsurprisingly, is legendary value investor Jeremy Grantham -- the man Dick Cheney, plus a lot of other rich people, trusts with his money. Grantham, chairman of Boston firm Grantham Mayo Van Otterloo, has been a voice of caution for years. But he has upped his concerns in his latest letter to shareholders. Grantham says we are now seeing the first worldwide bubble in history covering all asset classes.

    Everything is in bubble territory, he says.

    Everything.

    The bursting of this bubble will be across all countries and all assets.' -- Jeremy Grantham

    AntiSpin: We got hold of the full letter and it's distinctly iTulipy. He talks about bubbles, such as in private equity, how hedge funds overcharge for managing mundane asset classes (see Most Hedge Funds Suck), and so on, and what will happen when they inevitably turn turtle. The letter is discussed in the iTulip Select forums in the context of Too Many Dollar Bears?

    We also received an update from our intrepid Real DOW analyst who gives us his take on US home prices. And it ain't pretty.



    S&P/C-S 10 is the S&P Case-Shiller (C-S) home price index for 10 largest cities, released monthly, plotted on a real (inflation-adjusted) basis. The last datum was released 4/24 for the February 2007 number–actually a 3 month moving average, thus representing a Dec 2006 to Feb 2007 average. To get the real number, the C-S index is divided by the average CPI-U for the same three month period. The data are then scaled to a max. of 100.

    S&P/C-S 20 is the same analysis applied to the 20 largest cities, and S&P/C-S US to home prices nationally and based on quarterly data.

    IrrExubRJS US is based on Shiller’s real annual data, except for 2006 which is an estimation and explained here.

    Meanwhile...
    US posts weakest growth in four years
    April 27, 2007

    US economic growth during the first quarter was the weakest in four years, hurt by a slumping housing market and deteriorating international trade, the Commerce Department reported.

    At the same time, one price gauge in the GDP report posted its biggest jump in 16 years, sending a jolt of fear through financial markets that official interest rates will stay high.
    So far, our now five year old prediction of the bubble cycle economy ending in an inflationary recession appears to be playing out, except more rapidly than expected. The housing bubble decline driven recession, scheduled for Q4 2007, is arriving ahead of schedule, as is the inflation, which is supposed to wait until the dollar depreciates further. If our Real DOW friend's analysis is correct, we are in very early innings of the process. Given where we're starting from, maybe we're in for the Wile E. Cayote scenario: after you strap on the skies with the rocket pack on your back and you fly off the cliff past the Road Runner, you fall 1,000 feet to the ground, then the anvil falls on you, then the rocket hits the cliff and the cliff falls on you.

    Grantham letter is analyzed for iTulip Select subscribers here.
    Last edited by FRED; May 02, 2007, 01:12 PM.
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