Great Recession Fallout- Part I: Economic Mutations - Eric Janszen

[Ponce]

Re: Great Recession Fallout- Part I: Economic Mutations - Eric Janszen

They all ignored the money that's going out of the country and the money that does not come into the country...... :mad:

"No Export = No Recovery"... Ponce

[Morelia]

Re: Great Recession Fallout- Part I: Economic Mutations - Eric Janszen

Over and over, the participants warned that the banks — bigger and more dangerous than ever — are calling the shots. They have not been reigned in. And they are fighting with everything they’ve got to do things their way. “We’ve gone from ‘we the people‘ to ‘I the banks‘”.

Why hand over your money to someone who's robbing you -- and the country -- and driving our Nation into Debt Servitude? I understand why Joe Sixpack continually acts against his own interests -- ignorance. But it amazes me when those more informed do likewise

We can't control the Politician Enablers until the next election . . . but we can control our own behavior. If YOU want to reign in the Big Banks and stop their theft -- Boycott the Big Banks! Spread the word . . . .

i bank at a little bank, but little banks are vulnerable to going under each Friday vs the too big to fail banks. i've researched mine, and it looks relatively safe, however.

i do have a Chase credit card that i could get rid of. i use it for convenience, and pay it off in full each month. but Chase gets its cut on each purchase i make.

i will research some better options, assuming that there are any.

[raja]

Re: Great Recession Fallout- Part I: Economic Mutations - Eric Janszen

http://www.newdeal20.org/?p=8698

Over and over, the participants warned that the banks — bigger and more dangerous than ever — are calling the shots. They have not been reigned in. And they are fighting with everything they’ve got to do things their way. “We’ve gone from ‘we the people‘ to ‘I the banks‘”.

Why hand over your money to someone who's robbing you -- and the country -- and driving our Nation into Debt Servitude? I understand why Joe Sixpack continually acts against his own interests -- ignorance. But it amazes me when those more informed do likewise

We can't control the Politician Enablers until the next election . . . but we can control our own behavior. If YOU want to reign in the Big Banks and stop their theft -- Boycott the Big Banks! Spread the word . . . .

[Chris Coles]

Re: Great Recession Fallout- Part I: Economic Mutations - Eric Janszen

send that someone over asap, if you would do that, please.

Having had more than one hundred related comments placed on The Times web site since last September, I put myself up. www.chriscoles.com/page5.html


But you need a team, Hudson, EJ and me would do nicely. (As long as someone will pay all expenses).

[Morelia]

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Returning to the final point you made; I do not believe that bringing in anyone from existing knowledge of the structure of regulation will solve the problem. Why? Because they have no experience of a true free market. You do not have them in the US. You think you do, but you do not. It will need people with such experience, someone outside of the system.

send that someone over asap, if you would do that, please.

[Chris Coles]

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[quote=Morelia;151600]you repeat it here for iTulip readers, not New Deal 2 readers.


In fact the link to new Deal will show my comment placed at the bottom of the same page that held the original story. (I do hope my English grammar is acceptable this time).

Returning to the final point you made; I do not believe that bringing in anyone from existing knowledge of the structure of regulation will solve the problem. Why? Because they have no experience of a true free market. You do not have them in the US. You think you do, but you do not. It will need people with such experience, someone outside of the system.

[Morelia]

Re: Great Recession Fallout- Part I: Economic Mutations - Eric Janszen

The Times, London were kind enough to publish my comment on the same subject earlier today and I repeat it here for New Deal 2 readers:

you repeat it here for iTulip readers, not New Deal 2 readers.

(As also for iTulip readers too)

"too" or "also". one or the other. not both.

All anyone need do is insist that all financial transactions must be to the rules of a true free market.

orly? anyone? how about these rangers' or devils' fans (i trust Flyers fans would have a much better attitude)?

refocus:

In our case economic recovery from the economic crisis depends on how many leaders remain under the influence of the [FIRE] industries...

your comments are irrelevant bleatings in this context. they miss the point.

simon johnson was "kind enough" to send me this, yesterday. it's addresses the point:

Can would-be reformers agree? This is probably the easy part, at least for now.
Will there be continuity and personnel development, for example in the Institute for New Economic Thinking and the Roosevelt Institute?
Where’s the “Geithner wing” of this movement – i.e., the people with practical policy experience inside the regulatory machine, who can be brought in to senior government positions?
And who will provide the political leadership? All eyes are on the Senate – but who exactly will step up and on what basis?

http://baselinescenario.com/2010/03/...ne+Scenario%29

[Chris Coles]

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http://www.newdeal20.org/?p=8698

The Times, London were kind enough to publish my comment on the same subject earlier today and I repeat it here for New Deal 2 readers: (As also for iTulip readers too)

All anyone need do is insist that all financial transactions must be to the rules of a true free market.

http://www.newdeal20.org/?p=8698

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle7048662.ece

[ThePythonicCow]

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i already have the ad blocker plugin on board, so i used that. still get the text, though (as you can see in the following screen shot):

Showing just the text, as you've done, is easier on the eyes. I'll agree with you there.

[Morelia]

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That particular piece of screen real estate was otherwise unused, so little harm is done, in my view.

If you're using Firefox, then you might want to check out Greasemonkey if you find it worthwhile to rewrite web pages on the fly so that they display more (or less) to your liking.

thanks, pythonic. the best solution would be to have the button on ej's articles alone, i think. this is "rant and rave" stuff, so i'll quit my complaining here.

i already have the ad blocker plugin on board, so i used that. still get the text, though (as you can see in the following screen shot):

[Morelia]

Re: Great Recession Fallout- Part I: Economic Mutations - Eric Janszen

In our case economic recovery from the economic crisis depends on how many leaders remain under the influence of the [FIRE] industries...

http://www.newdeal20.org/?p=8698

Roosevelt Conference Sets the House on Fire

Wednesday, 03/3/2010 - 4:36 pm by Lynn Parramore

It was like the League of Justice gathered on the stage today at New York’s Time Warner Center.

Nobel laureate Joe Stiglitz, Chief Economist for the Roosevelt Institute, urged us not to give up the fight to fix our broken financial system. Rob Johnson, Director of the Institute’s Project on Global Finance, charged a do-nothing Administration with endangering our future as The Animals’ “We Gotta Get Out of This Place” played in the background. TARP overseer Elizabeth Warren denounced credit card companies for preying on the little guy and plunging hard-working families into debt.

They were from academia. And from the private sector. They were lawyers, judges, former regulators — and even billionaires, like the famed financier George Soros. They were people like financial analyst Josh Rosner, one of the first to call the subprime mortgage crisis — and who now says that the securitization market is stalling our economy like a broken car transmission. And Simon Johnson, who warned of a financial ‘Doom Cycle’ that will spiral out of control if we don’t wake up very soon. And Roosevelt fellow Mike Konczal, who forcefully showed how investment banks’ risky business puts the entire economy in jeaopardy.

Over and over, the participants warned that the banks — bigger and more dangerous than ever — are calling the shots. They have not been reigned in. And they are fighting with everything they’ve got to do things their way. “We’ve gone from ‘we the people‘ to ‘I the banks‘”, said Lynn Turner, former Chief Accountant of the SEC.

Rob Johnson made it clear: current proposals floating through Congress don’t cut it. “We are at a fork in the road,” he said, warning that we are inevitably headed for another, worse financial crisis if we don’t take serious steps to address the critical faults in the system.

Seeing such eminent figures gathered together on stage — one after the other pointing out how 18 months after the worst crisis since the Great Depression we are more vulnerable than ever – it would be IMPOSSIBLE to dismiss what they say.

They have given the public, and the Obama Administration, a comprehensive plan to fix what’s broken. No one can ever say “We didn’t know.” Read a full report of their recommendations here.

The question: Obama, are you listening?

**We apologize for the audio difficulties for those who tried to watch the live stream this morning. Fortunately, Bloomberg taped the event and we will have highlights up on New Deal 2.0 very soon.

[ThePythonicCow]

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ridiculous clutter.

That particular piece of screen real estate was otherwise unused, so little harm is done, in my view.

If you're using Firefox, then you might want to check out Greasemonkey if you find it worthwhile to rewrite web pages on the fly so that they display more (or less) to your liking.

[icm63]

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ED, EJ, FRED,

PDF tool: If you wanted to reduce buttons.

They only other way to do this PDF thing is to have the PDF button visible when in the address bar 'postcount=' is present.

So your would need customize the code to enable/visible (true/false) when the above condition is present.

[icm63]

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Morelia,

Are you kidding me, let me guess you are over a certain age were snail mail ruled !

Get a better ISP or use Firefox. TO load the little bit extra HTML/JS !

[Morelia]

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GREAT STUFF...thanks for listening !

listening or pandering?

a "save as pdf" button on every post?

ridiculous clutter.

i would like to see a higher-level button that would remove these pdf buttons. or, better yet, a setting in the user control panel to override this scourge of pdf buttons.

otherwise, i will investigate using a text-only browser for the itulip fora.