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In the spirit of our original USA Bankruptcy Filing posted on iTulip.com in 2001, and the faux iTulip interview with Alan Greenspan (google: "greenspan interview") from 1999, the following is the transcript of the first meeting in 2010 between a fictitious character Henry Cheng who represents U.S. creditors, and Hank Anderson, seller of U.S. assets. Cheng: We have $1.2 trillion. What do you have for sale? Anderson: Our first item is a portfolio of ABS CDOs. Cheng: ABS is asset-backed security. What's "CDO"? Anderson: CDO stands for collateralized debt obligation and in this case it means packages of debt based on parts of asset-backed securities which were previously low rated but which, because of the way they are packaged, have high ratings as CDOs. Cheng: Why is a package of parts of things worth nothing worth more than nothing? Anderson: Well, it's complicated but it has to do with the models of the risk of default under various conditions... Cheng: We will give you one dollar. Anderson: Mr. Cheng, I haven't told you what we are asking, yet. This collection of CDO portfolios originally sold for $140 billion... Cheng: Ok, we'll give you two dollars. Anderson: How can they be worth two dollars if they were once worth $140 billion? Cheng: If you have a better offer, take it. Anderson: Um, let's move onto our next asset. This is a big opportunity. We have $460 billion in asset backed securities and bonds on defaulted sub-prime mortgages. These were owned by hedge funds and investment banks, then purchased by the Federal Reserve following the passage of the 2009 Emergency Asset Classification Act. Cheng: What is "sub-prime"? Anderson: Sub-prime is a loan a lender offers to borrowers who have higher default risk than a prime borrower's. Cheng: Why? Anderson: Why is the default risk higher? Because the borrower is less creditworthy than a prime borrower. Cheng: No, why lend money to borrowers when you know they cannot pay back? Anderson: Well, statistically, many can pay back, enough for the loans to make money, usually, and in terms of policy, we want poor families to own homes and build wealth. Cheng: Ridiculous. A poor family needs income and equity, not credit and debt. "Usual" is never usual for long. What else do you have? Anderson: We have $560 billion in bonds on defaulted adjustable rate mortgages. These were "A" rated, prime. Cheng: But not now, right? So were not rated correctly. How rated now? Anderson: Ratings vary but mostly this portfolio is rated "B" or less. Cheng: Junk. Anderson: Well, technically, yes... Cheng: Not buying that, sand in a desert. Anderson: Let's move on. We see you are looking for high quality items. We have Treasury and agency bonds... Cheng: You joke! We sell US Treasury bonds, buy for our economic needs. What else is for sale? Anderson: We have $490 billion in distressed bonds from corporations that were financed by private equity firms in 2006 and 2007. Cheng: Interesting. We buy energy, manufacturing, resources. We like oil, coal, gas, metals. Fifty cents on the dollar! Very good price! Anderson: Uh, those are not for sale. As I am sure you know, laws passed by Congress in 2008 prohibit foreign ownership of US companies in strategic industries. All of the industries you name are strategic. Sorry. Cheng: Pharmaceutical. Biotech. Technology... networking, comms, wireless, software? Anderson: Those are the crown jewels of the U.S. economy. They are not for sale. Cheng: We buy stem cell R&D companies. Your laws prohibit this. Ours do not. For sale? Anderson: Right, so we have not developed that technology. Sorry, none for sale. Cheng: It's ok. You will buy new medicines from us later. Anything else? Anderson: This is all we came prepared to offer today. Cheng: Ok, we wait, come back later and buy "strategic" industries... ten cents on dollar. Goodbye.
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