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Re: Mercedes:- No Synth fuels
Shell and others have spent a lot of money on various "science projects" on these sorts of fuels. GTL (gas to liquid) was a popular favourite about 20 years ago. But that requires a very low natural gas price to work. And nat gas is heading upwards now as it will end up being the primary way in which we generate the mass quantities of electrical power the world is going to need as we electrify and automate globally.
We are moving to electric vehicles. But in due course the battery powering the motor is going to disappear as the energy storage medium and be replaced with H2 fuel cell. -
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https://www.carscoops.com/2020/05/eu...ean-car-sales/
"We are moving to electric vehicles. But in due course the battery powering the motor is going to disappear as the energy storage medium and be replaced with H2 fuel cell"
I disagree, What "They" are after is power storage.....as an island we got the tide going out or in some where at some time. Trouble is a lot of the time is like 3:30 in the am....not a high demand time. So why not get the Progs to buy the battery storage for them?
https://theenergyst.com/tesla-applie...ation-licence/
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Re: Mercedes:- No Synth fuels
Electrolysis to create H2 gives a similar end result (on-demand storage of surplus electricity).Originally posted by Mega View Postengineer with little (or even no) economic insightComment
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A very inefficient way of doing business.......why not pipe the power to the car?
My Nephew lad has just got a job at Scotish power.......he is an engineer not a hole digger.
He been moved to the project to plan & install home EV power...........he been told its a 30 year project & the government is working with them under the radar.
All cars WILL be Ev's simple as that........& suddenly they giving everyone a "Hurry up".
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- Lugging around X kg of battery when you can have a liquid fuel tank that gets lighter when it is getting emptier sounds inefficient to me too. What's the average weight of a EV vs. a petrol powered car? With higher average weight cars, collisions also produce a lot worse injuries (especially when you hit a light vehicle or pedestrian).Originally posted by Mega View Post
- EVs need to be hooked up to the electric grid to charge them. Won't be a problem during the night, but what about daytime charging? Most of them will be on the road. You could use electricity to split water to hydrogen anywhere alongside the electric grid, any time (day or night). 'petrol' stations would be an obvious candidate location for doing the splitting (no need to lug around petrol in tankers either to refuel petrol stations).
- How safe are batteries vs. hydrogen in a tank after a collision or in a short circuit situation ?
- Hydrogen can be used directly in a combustion engine, or in a fuel cell to power an electric engine. This extra flexibility might allow covering a larger range of use cases vs. a pure-electric approach ?
- Hydrogen can be generated from electricity (electrolysis) but also from other energy sources such as natural gas, coal, etc.engineer with little (or even no) economic insightComment
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Battery weight is a Bloody night mare right now, but we working on it...in 10 years we made great progressComment
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the progress on batteries has been amazing, lithium ion was a tremendous jump forward. In 1990 we ran battery powered vans in a carefully observed trial with FedEx. They had huge lead acid batter packs and claimed a range of 30 miles. They never came close to that, getting maybe ten miles in real world stop and go driving. Today similar package delivery trucks are getting over a hundred miles range.Originally posted by Mega View Post
Plug in battery ev’s are still a long way from going from-anywhere-to anywhere, but they have become undeniably practical for many people in many applications, rather than the barely working laboratory toys they were 20 years ago.
it’s worth mentioning that the battery improvements had nothing to do with cars and trucks. The batteries were developed for cell phones and then later applied to vehicles.Comment
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What's a good way to invest in H2 fuel cell technology? Or is it still too soon?Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.Comment
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