Why Democrats Are Becoming The Party Of The One Percent

[vt]

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/...-the-1-percent

[lektrode]

Re: Why Democrats Are Becoming The Party Of The One Percent

havent even read it yet, but must say the FACTS couldnt be clearer.

that ever since the daze of wild bill&co, team DEMORAT has been The Party of THE biggest CRIMINAL SYNDICATE IN ALL OF WORLD HISTORY!

and the obozo admin has PROVEN THIS IN ... ahem... SPADES!

and if that makes me rayciss then so be it.

can hardly wait to see what they pull during the next few months, it oughta be a real eye opener - take this little tidbit, just fer instance:

Treasury Removes Jackson From $20 Bill, Will Replace Him With Harriet Tubman

after holder&co is allowed to NOT PROSECUTE ANY OF THE LWR MANHATTAN BANKSTER MOB, while they continue to RAPE, PILLAGE AND PLUNDER whats left of The US economy - what do we get out of these DOUCHEBAGS?

sides 'marriage' rights, a'course....

and when that bitch walks into the whitehouse, EVERYTHING that was fought/died for over the past 300 years WILL HAVE BEEN FOR NAUGHT!

read: The Former USA will be, for all intents and purposes: DEAD.

[Jam]

Re: Why Democrats Are Becoming The Party Of The One Percent

can hardly wait to see what they pull during the next few months, it oughta be a real eye opener - take this little tidbit, just fer instance:

Treasury Removes Jackson From $20 Bill, Will Replace Him With Harriet Tubman

Part of the push for cashless economy.

[santafe2]

Re: Why Democrats Are Becoming The Party Of The One Percent

...ever since the daze of wild bill&co, team DEMORAT has been The Party of THE biggest CRIMINAL SYNDICATE IN ALL OF WORLD HISTORY!

and the obozo admin has PROVEN THIS IN ... ahem... SPADES!

and if that makes me rayciss then so be it.

I don't think you require outside help to be considered a racist. What makes you a racist is your racism. It's that simple, own it. Maybe we can lobby EJ to adopt you as our token racist. Now that the other dumb bigots have stopped posting here, we could adopt you as our official dumb bigot. Think about it. If Hillary gets elected, you can slide right into misogyny. Bernie? I'm sure you're already a first class anti-Semite. And who knows, we could elect another black president and you'd be right back in your wheel house.

[shiny!]

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I don't think you require outside help to be considered a racist. What makes you a racist is your racism. It's that simple, own it. Maybe we can lobby EJ to adopt you as our token racist. Now that the other dumb bigots have stopped posting here, we could adopt you as our official dumb bigot. Think about it. If Hillary gets elected, you can slide right into misogyny. Bernie? I'm sure you're already a first class anti-Semite. And who knows, we could elect another black president and you'd be right back in your wheel house.

Thank you, santafe2. I can't believe what I'm reading here.

[santafe2]

Re: Why Democrats Are Becoming The Party Of The One Percent

Thank you, santafe2. I can't believe what I'm reading here.

And...I can't believe I'm saying this, vt posted an excellent link.

There are some interesting points made in the Vanity Fair piece. Trump is appealing to what’s left of the white middle class in the US. I think they overestimate the class standing of Trump voters but that might be my own prejudice. The main point is that Hillary will pander to the top few hundred families in the country and Trump will pander to the lower classes. What’s funny is that they’re all white. Hillary favors the top tier of white folks and The Donald the lower economic tiers.

It’s an interesting problem. White people have had several hundred years of privilege in the US and those that haven’t risen to the top by now are getting no respect from the left. The left will take money from the 1% and work for equality for everyone who’s not a traditional white Christian. This leaves the right with mostly white Christians and it’s unlikely that’s a majority in the US but we'll be in an uncomfortable position in November. We know who the very, very rich want elected. What do we do?

It's the old poker table joke. If you look around the table and don't know who the mark is, it's you.

[lektrode]

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I don't think you require outside help to be considered a racist. What makes you a racist is your racism. It's that simple, own it. Maybe we can lobby EJ to adopt you as our token racist. Now that the other dumb bigots have stopped posting here, we could adopt you as our official dumb bigot. Think about it. If Hillary gets elected, you can slide right into misogyny. Bernie? I'm sure you're already a first class anti-Semite. And who knows, we could elect another black president and you'd be right back in your wheel house.

just what i'd expect from a 'holier than thou' kalifornia liberal - who sees 'racism' in any comment that doesnt bootlick the current regime (of terror)

and one doesnt live where i have for over 20years and be a racist - not if one wants to live, that is - since being a white man will get yer head stomped for even a casual glance, aka 'stink eye'

typing as a 2nd gen irish american, i dont owe ANYBODY an 'apology' for being white.

but i'll repeat the thrust of my statement above, as its got not a GD thing to do with 'racism':

after holder&co is allowed to NOT PROSECUTE ANY OF THE LWR MANHATTAN BANKSTER MOB, while they continue to RAPE, PILLAGE AND PLUNDER whats left of The US economy - what do we get out of these DOUCHEBAGS?

as they continue to give away the treasury to buy more votes: debt 'forgiveness' to 400thousand .edu-indentured serfs, just fer starters - on top of THE TRILLIONS they've already bestowed upon their primary benefactors and biggest campaign contributors

and this statement:

White people have had several hundred years of privilege in the US and those that haven’t risen to the top by now are getting no respect from the left. The left will take money from the 1% and work for equality for everyone who’s not a traditional white Christian

has to be the most blatant crock of shiite eye've ever read here...

the 'left' and 'the 1%' go arm in arm together and its got not a GD thing to do with 'equality'

its more like how the CRIMINAL CLASS gets the rest of the herd to fall for their bullshit, whilst they ride off into the sunset with yet more trillions, usurping whats left of the US Constitution to further their delusionary pie-in-the-sky visions of utopia - that has NEVER EVER EXISTED anywhere else on this planet.

and they will stop at nothing in their efforts to recreate the old world aristocracy here in the new world - all in the name of 'equality' ?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[walenk]

Re: Why Democrats Are Becoming The Party Of The One Percent

Are you familiar with the blocking function? I've had Lektrode blocked for years. His views are much easier to take when I don't see them.

[DSpencer]

Re: Why Democrats Are Becoming The Party Of The One Percent

Are you familiar with the blocking function? I've had Lektrode blocked for years. His views are much easier to take when I don't see them.

I don't have anyone blocked, but I rarely read Lektrode's posts. The content is always the same anti-liberal screed, written with tons of unnecessary capitalization, bold, italics, bright red font. The most annoying part is all the intentional typos like "eye've" and "fer" and "yer". It's the literary equivalent of a grown man choosing to talk like a 3 year old as it were somehow endearing to seem completely ignorant.

The problem is that while blocking helps you, it doesn't solve the problem of itulip's forums going down the drain. It's probably a lost cause at this point anyway.

[walenk]

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In the best of all possible worlds we might reason together. In this world I think trolls are best left unfed.

[lektrode]

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In the best of all possible worlds we might reason together. In this world I think trolls are best left unfed.

yeah, if not fer all the literary geniuses who feel they simply MUST critique spelling, 'misuse' of caps/highlighting and OH SO self-righteously call out 'anti-liberal screeds' while they pontificate from their 'holier than thou' perches...

so hey - go ahead, block me away... as if it matters who reads whom.

for my part, i've very seldom if ever played the sophmoric schoolyard games some here like to play - but whatevah makes you feel superior to us ignoramuses..

oh.. and yeah - the forum started going downhill when the ad-hominem crap started flowing from those who seem to think their POV of whats been happnin the past 8years is somehow better than others.

liberal apologism is what i call it. (heavy on the GISM)

[loweyecue]

Re: Why Democrats Are Becoming The Party Of The One Percent

I don't know if democrats are becoming the party of the 1% but I am inclined to think Trump is somewhat left of Clinton. When the Koch brothers come out publicly saying they are pulling out of the GOP primary and Hillary is all-right (yeah pun intended), then that's all I need to know that she is about as right wing a democrat as you can have.

Capitalism has mostly destroyed democracy and we have seen an erosion in civil liberties, we have seen crony capitalism buy elections through the implementation of Citizens United, we have also seen how fear and right wing bigotry are taking over (Examples are NC LGBT law and failed attempt to frame people for trading in infant body parts (Seriously disturbing) etc)

If elected Clinton will be more interested in status quo and solidifying her "legacy" than doing anything for the middle class. She will help move the dialogue and the country further to the right by pandering to the GOP "to get things done". The long term damage from this will be enormous.

The establishment is bought and paid for, the economy is rigged and the middle class is left holding the debt as usual. I am a very disillusioned democrat right now.

[jk]

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The establishment is bought and paid for, the economy is rigged and the middle class is left holding the debt as usual..

this is a detour, but i'm increasingly feeling like the debt doesn't matter. it will never get paid, it will just be rolled over, it hardly costs anything since rates are so low, and it is not crowding out private investment, since private investment is pretty moribund. anyone here want to try to convince me that we should worry about either the national debt or the cumulative trade deficit?

[Milton Kuo]

Re: Why Democrats Are Becoming The Party Of The One Percent

this is a detour, but i'm increasingly feeling like the debt doesn't matter. it will never get paid, it will just be rolled over, it hardly costs anything since rates are so low, and it is not crowding out private investment, since private investment is pretty moribund. anyone here want to try to convince me that we should worry about either the national debt or the cumulative trade deficit?

What about threats by countries to dump their holdings U.S. Treasury bonds, as I think Saudi Arabia kind of did this past week or so? This could potentially trigger a financial crisis and could influence the behavior of the Federal Reserve or the U.S. government in ways that are even more against the interests of the U.S. than they already are.

Also, doesn't increasing the national debt also imply that there is more money flying around? If the money is in the hands of foreign interests, couldn't that money be used to buy controlling stakes in many of American corporations? How about using that money to influence elections in this country?

Unless much of the debt and associated money is kept in American hands, I'm worried that outsiders will have undue influence in the governing of this country.

[thriftyandboringinohio]

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... How about using that money to influence elections in this country?...I'm worried that outsiders will have undue influence in the governing of this country.

Since the recent ruling in Citizens United and McCutcheon, we should expect that countries like China and Russia are funding campaigns in the US.
We allow unlimited amounts of untraceable money to flow into elections.
It would be unbelievably inept of our rival nations to miss this opportunity to steer policy in the United States.

I assume that Iran, Russia, China, Saudi Arabia are buying television ads in the US right now for legislators and judges they prefer.
I view Sheldon Adelson as an indirect agent of China.
He is deeply beholden to Chinese officials for his casinos there, and to the Chinese high rollers who play at his Las Vegas casinos.