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    For posters who view issues through a political lens and like to insert political commentary into non-political discussions, thereby derailing conversations and driving thoughtful people away...

    There are a million self-righteous political forums in the world where you can pat yourself on the back and talk about how bad the other side is. iTulip isn't one of them. If you feel you must post partisan politics, do it here at the kids table so the grownups can talk in peace.

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    Abortion

    84% of Americans want late term abortions banned. Of course if the mother's physical health is in danger that could be an exception.

    http://www.lifenews.com/2015/01/21/8...fter-20-weeks/

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    the best way to reduce abortions is to make birth control easier. however, this requires recognition of the reality that people are sexual, and most will not confine their activities to marriage and procreation. this is apparently too great a leap for some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jk View Post
    the best way to reduce abortions is to make birth control easier. however, this requires recognition of the reality that people are sexual, and most will not confine their activities to marriage and procreation. this is apparently too great a leap for some.
    What do you think you are jk, some kind of doctor?...

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    Here I thought this thread would be a ghost town. Apologies for sounding cranky in my original post. Hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings.

    Hey, Woodsman... now you can take the gloves off and not worry about breaking your promise to me!

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    Maybe I should take the new thread out for a spin...

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    OK, just one more. Very descriptive new hat for Trump supporters.


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    Quote Originally Posted by santafe2 View Post
    OK, just one more. Very descriptive new hat for Trump supporters.

    Love it!

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    I know I thought I was done for the day but I ran across this gem. If this doesn't describe the difference between the Dems I don't know what does.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jk View Post
    the best way to reduce abortions is to make birth control easier. however, this requires recognition of the reality that people are sexual, and most will not confine their activities to marriage and procreation. this is apparently too great a leap for some.
    Perhaps, but you just have to love this response to it. If I lived in Kentucky Mary Lou Marzian would get my vote:
    State representative's frustration over anti-abortion efforts lead to tongue-in-cheek bill

    Feb 20, 2016 8:00 AM ET

    A Kentucky lawmaker is so fed up with the efforts in her state to restrict access to abortion that she decided to introduce a bill aimed at giving men a taste of their own medicine.

    It requires men who want to use erectile dysfunction medicine, such as Viagra or Cialis, to get a written statement of approval from their wife — their current wife.


    "They go through wives like water in Kentucky," Democratic Representative Mary Lou Marzian said in an interview with CBC News.


    Under the bill, only married men would be allowed to get a prescription and they would have to make a sworn statement with their hand on a Bible that they will only use the medication when having sex with their wife. They would also have to visit a doctor on two separate occasions before getting a prescription.

    The Kentucky legislature last week passed a bill that requires women to see a doctor 24 hours before having an abortion. "I was steaming," said Marzian, adding that the new restriction is "insulting, degrading and patronizing." ...

    ...But she hopes the bill makes people think about the role of government in their health decisions — and about how abortion is a pawn in the political game. She accuses her Republican colleagues of using their anti-abortion views to help themselves get elected; she says that's why they are constantly introducing bills on the subject.


    Marzian believes their efforts are hypocritical. "These Republicans say they want less government — until it comes to your uterus. Then they want more," she said...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRG55 View Post
    Perhaps, but you just have to love this response to it. If I lived in Kentucky Mary Lou Marzian would get my vote:

    Kentucky Viagra bill would require wife's consent before doling out little blue pill


    Clearly a 2nd Amendment issue.

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    I feel most Americans support the right to have an abortion as well as access for all to birth control.

    The GOP platform to forbid abortion will never fly and it's hard to believe they even try stop it.

    However there is huge support to forbid late term abortions.It is settled science that a fetus can feel pain in the 28th week.

    http://discovermagazine.com/2005/dec/fetus-feel-pain

    So it makes sense to forbid abortions in the last two months of gestation, except where the physical health of the mother is threatened. A woman has a right to abortion, but also a responsibility to get it done early in the pregnancy.

    The extreme positions on both ends of the abortion issue, forbidding it by the Republicans and allowing at always by the Democrats are fully outside the mainstream of American voters.

    What thoughts do readers of this thread have on this? Agree or any other observations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vt View Post
    I feel most Americans support the right to have an abortion as well as access for all to birth control.
    So you'll vote for all Democratic candidates. Good to know. Post that here without some BS back track.

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    Sorry you have some residual anger issues. Don't know why you wish to be condescending. I certainly don't disrespect you and find value in many of your posts

    I have always posted as a more moderate fiscal independent and more towards the socially liberal side. I don't like either party.

    I don't agree with the Democrat position on late term abortions or partial birth abortions, which I clearly stated. Most Americans agree with this viewpoint. It has been documented poll after poll.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/9658/amer...-abortion.aspx

    I fully support conservation and reduction of fossil fuels. Why does the left continue to oppose nuclear? Yes Obama and some other liberals are now open to nuclear, but the left is strangely opposed to this solution to global warming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vt View Post
    ...The extreme positions on both ends of the abortion issue, forbidding it by the Republicans and allowing at always by the Democrats are fully outside the mainstream of American voters.

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    Good politics is the art of constructive compromise.

    The USA elected officials seem to have long ago lost the ability to execute good politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRG55 View Post
    Good politics is the art of constructive compromise.

    The USA elected officials seem to have long ago lost the ability to execute good politics.
    I think it was jk who said the reason why USA elected officials don't compromise anymore is because they did away with earmarks. When politicians don't get anything for their districts in return for compromising, they have no incentive to work with opponents across the aisle. Now all we have is both parties tilted towards the extremes, and a lot of self-righteous blaming and complaining about the other side refusing to compromise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiny! View Post
    I think it was jk who said the reason why USA elected officials don't compromise anymore is because they did away with earmarks. When politicians don't get anything for their districts in return for compromising, they have no incentive to work with opponents across the aisle.
    A great example of unintended consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vt View Post
    I feel most Americans support the right to have an abortion as well as access for all to birth control.

    The GOP platform to forbid abortion will never fly and it's hard to believe they even try stop it.

    However there is huge support to forbid late term abortions.It is settled science that a fetus can feel pain in the 28th week.

    http://discovermagazine.com/2005/dec/fetus-feel-pain

    So it makes sense to forbid abortions in the last two months of gestation, except where the physical health of the mother is threatened. A woman has a right to abortion, but also a responsibility to get it done early in the pregnancy.

    The extreme positions on both ends of the abortion issue, forbidding it by the Republicans and allowing at always by the Democrats are fully outside the mainstream of American voters.

    What thoughts do readers of this thread have on this? Agree or any other observations?
    Definitions on why you cannot kill a living organism, in the context of abortion, have some interesting implications for killing animals for consumption, especially when it concerns mammals.
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    I'm in. Here's a vid of Cornell West telling way too many uncomfortable truths about HillBill and making young Chris Cuomo long for a commercial break. Calling Hillary the "Milli Vannili of American politics" is inspired! It will be a while before Dr. West shows up on CNN, that's for damn sure.


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    "Funny stuff. Christie is all gut and no guts. Too clever by half a pizza, he figured that with the Trump endorsement, he'd get a late-in-the-game hit in on Rubio, while securing a cabinet position with our inevitable casino-builder-in-chief. But a manipulator like Trump recognized Christie's gesture as insincere, leaving Christie with the parting gift of some Girl Scout cookies and a plane ride back to New Jersey, where's he's less popular than ever. Good strategery there genius!

    When you lose in politics or in life, sometimes the best you can do is to console yourself with the knowledge that you held to your principles and remained true to yourself. Christie has lost and denied himself even that consolation. Now he has no career, no admirers and I would imagine, a lot fewer friends. Who trusts Chris Christie? Who thinks he stands for anything? A long fall from that inspiring speech he gave at the Reagan library a couple years back. Character matters Chris. And you failed the test. The plane is over there. Get on and go home."


    Is Chris Christie okay?



    Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks on Super Tuesday in Palm Beach, Fla., as New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie listens in the background. (AP Photo/Andrew Harnik)
    I believe that Donald Trump was talking, tonight, and that he, in fact, held an entire press conference. But it was impossible to hear him over Chris Christie’s eyes.

    Chris Christie spent the entire speech screaming wordlessly. I have never seen someone scream so loudly without using his mouth before. It would have been remarkable if it had not been so terrifying.

    Sometimes, at night, do you still hear them, Clarice? The screaming of the Christies?

    His were the eyes of a man who has gazed into the abyss, and the abyss gazed back, and then he endorsed the abyss.

    It was not a thousand-yard stare. That would understate the vast and impenetrable distance it encompassed.

    He looked as if he had seen a ghost and the ghost had made him watch Mufasa die again.

    He had the eyes of a man who has looked into the heart of light, the silence. A man who had seen the moment of his
    greatness flicker, and seen the eternal footman hold his coat, and snicker.

    And, in short, he looked afraid.

    New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie address Donald Trump supporters at Mar-a-Lago club in Florida on March 1 saying that Trump has "shown himself to be tough and strong and bold." (Reuters)



    He had the face of a man who has used his third wish and realized too late that “may my family never starve” could be twisted to mean that the genie should murder his entire family.

    He had the face of a man who has just realized his own mortality.

    Look into those eyes and try to deny that Chris Christie has seen something.

    Someone just told Chris Christie that there is no God. Or Chris Christie has just discovered that God does exist but She is an enormous snake who hates or is indifferent to mankind. Or Chris Christie has just discovered that there is no God but that Hell is real.

    “When are they coming to airlift me out?” Chris Christie’s eyes are pleading. “Please tell me that they are coming and that it is soon.” But then his expression hardens. Chris Christie knows that they are not coming back for him.

    This is his life now.

    Soon he must return to the plane onto which Trump humiliatingly sent him before. Soon he must return to the small cupboard under the stairs where he is kept and occasionally thrown small slivers of metaphorical raw meat. When he asked to be part of Trump’s cabinet he never thought to specify “presidential cabinet, of course, not a literal cabinet underground where the ventilation is poor and there is no light.” It just did not occur to him. Why would it? And now it is too late.

    Nobody is coming for you, Chris Christie. Nobody is coming to save you.

    Chris Christie has seen things. Things you wouldn’t believe. Things that would make your hair fall out and turn grey all at once. But he cannot speak of them. He can only stand there. Chris Christie is the bearer of a hideous knowledge that hangs on him like a horrible weight. But he has no way to say it.

    He is embroidering this hideous truth very slowly onto a handkerchief, but it will not be ready in time.

    Chris Christie must stand and watch as his city is overrun with Imperial troops and his friends are frozen in carbonite.

    Chris Christie has the glazed and terrified look of someone who has traded his inheritance for no pottage at all, who has watched his credibility dry up and is about to be led back to his basement cage, having lost Winterfell for good.

    Chris Christie is realizing that the steak he gets to eat inside the Matrix is not worth this.

    Chris Christie has made a yuge mistake.

    Donald Trump won at least seven states on Super Tuesday. His path to the nomination is clear.

    Chris Christie has no mouth, but he must scream.

    "“The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents... some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new Dark Age.”
    ― H.P. Lovecraft



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