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    Treasury yields are "blinking red", but the Fed keeps acting like nothing's wrong. What's the deal?

    Let's explain: Fed chairman Ben Bernanke's bond purchasing program (QE2) has sent the yield on the 30-year Treasury skyrocketing. At the same time, the the 2-year Treasury is stuck at a lowly 0.61. That means, the "yield curve" between the two bonds has grown steeper, which normally happens at the beginning of a recovery because investors are moving out of "risk free" bonds to riskier assets like stocks. Typically, the yield on the long-term bond will start to go down on its own because investors expect the Fed to raise short-term rates to curb potential inflation. But that's not happening this time. Why? And why should we care?

    The reason we should care is because the yield curve is signaling one of two things; inflation or default. What it is NOT signaling is a robust recovery.

    Remember, the Fed's main job is "price stability" which means keeping a lid on inflation. When the yield on long-term bonds spikes, then it's up to Bernanke to show the market he'll do what's necessary to fight inflation, that is, raise rates. It's a question of credibility.

    But Bernanke isn't interested in credibility. In fact, he's not only said that he will keep rates low for an "extended period of time" but also pledged to continue his $600 QE2 program until there's a "significant improvement in labor market." He was joined in his commitment by all of the active members of the FOMC.

    Now, granted, QE2 has boosted stock prices, but the extra liquidity has also inflated commodities prices (making it harder on consumers) and wreaked havoc in emerging markets forcing trading partners to control capital flows or raise rates to tamp down inflation. But QE2's greatest shortcoming is that is really doesn't create jobs as advertised. It's just more supply side, "trickle down" monetary theory designed to goose the market while workers languish in unemployment lines. Here's how the Wall Street journal's Kelly Evans summed it up:

    "...the limits of monetary policy are becoming clearer. History suggests any further easing probably would do too much for the stock market and asset prices, and too little for jobs.

    The only real fix is to lower the cost of U.S. workers relative to foreign rivals and machines, or else raise their bang for the buck. The latter, while clearly preferable, requires education and training that won't turn things around overnight." ("The Fed's Magic Show Appears to Be Over", Wall Street Journal)

    In other words, the Fed is planning to give every working man and woman in the US a big pay-cut so they can go nose-to-nose with foreign labor. You can see how this blends seamlessly with Obama's State of the Union Speech where he focused on "competition" as his central theme. More importantly, Obama reiterated his pledge to double exports in the next 5 years. The only way that can be achieved is by destroying the dollar. Here's a clip from an op-ed by Judy Shelton that explains what's going on:

    "Beware of President Obama's call for a doubling of U.S. exports over the next five years as a way to reduce the unemployment rate. The obvious quick route to export success for any nation is to depreciate its currency. Dollar depreciation is already being pushed by the Obama administration as the key solution for resolving our massive trade deficit with China.....

    ....The government will continue to run a large budget deficit, which must be financed by issuing more government debt. The debt is monetized when the Federal Reserve purchases it from the public. The effect is to increase the money supply. Inflationary monetary policy goes hand-in-hand with a falling dollar in foreign-exchange markets." ("The Wrong Way to Double Exports", Judy Shelton, Wall Street Journal)

    So, while working people and pensioners see their savings sliced in half to accommodate the globalist dream of an evenly-depressed world labor market; the investor class will get regular injections of Fed liquidity via QE2 to keep stocks "bubbly" and profits high. But large-scale monetary manipulation does involve some serious risks, as Deborah Blumberg points out in her WSJ article "Is Steep Yield Curve Signaling Pain to Come?". Here's an excerpt:

    "Some bond experts believe yields in the Treasurys market are signaling the U.S. could one day be stripped of its triple-A status as it confronts a bloated budget deficit with no clear plans to reduce debt.

    A peculiar distortion in the benchmark U.S. government-bond yield curve, which is the gap between two-year and 10-year yields, is pointing to worries that the U.S. could see its top-notch credit rating downgraded within several years, according to some experts....

    .... "We've never seen these moves when we've had better economic data, and with Fed [rate] hikes on the way," she said. The yield curve is flashing "concerns about an unsustainable fiscal deficit and an eventual potential ratings downgrade," said Priya Misra, head of U.S. rates strategy at Bank of America Merrill Lynch....

    In the past, steep yield curves have been associated with sovereign-debt-ratings downgrades. Japan was stripped of its triple-A status by Moody's in 1998 and Standard & Poor's in 2001....The consequences of a U.S. credit-ratings downgrade could devastate the economy, pushing up borrowing costs and threatening the dollar." ("Is Steep Yield Curve Signaling Pain to Come?", Deborah Lynn Blumberg, Wall Street Journal)

    The United States will not default because it pays its debts in its own currency, (and the Treasury can always just print more money) but the prospect of a ratings downgrade is quite real. That means it would cost considerably more to finance the debt. Also, long-term interest rates will rise sharply. That will crimp consumer spending, slow economic activity, and deal a death blow to the struggling housing market.

    Bernanke's playing a dangerous game. If he's not careful, he could trigger a run on the dollar.

    Mike Whitney
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=22987

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    Re: Yield Curve Blinking Red

    Originally posted by don View Post


    fwds from:
    Mike Whitney
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=22987
    Treasury yields are "blinking red", but the Fed keeps acting like nothing's wrong. What's the deal?
    .... QE2 has boosted stock prices, but the extra liquidity has also inflated commodities prices (making it harder on consumers) ....It's just more supply side, "trickle down" monetary theory designed to goose the market while workers languish in unemployment lines. Here's how the Wall Street journal's Kelly Evans summed it up:

    "...the limits of monetary policy are becoming clearer. History suggests any further easing probably would do too much for the stock market and asset prices, and too little for jobs.
    .....
    In other words, the Fed is planning to give every working man and woman in the US a big pay-cut ....
    ...
    So, while working people and pensioners see their savings sliced in half to accommodate the globalist dream of an evenly-depressed world labor market; the investor class will get regular injections of Fed liquidity ....
    ...
    Bernanke's playing a dangerous game. If he's not careful, he could trigger a run on the dollar.
    'interesting times' we're living/surviving thru, eh?

    on a quick scan eye see (at 0943 hst):
    10yr note down to 3.333
    equity indexes all flashing RED
    au/ag up
    oil up
    silver eagles bouncing a buck or so from yest
    1000face meltweight 19099 (yest)
    plenty green here tho: http://www.kitcosilver.com/equities.html

    and over at pats place: http://patrick.net/housing/crash.html
    we find some colorful commentary...
    this one is got all kinds of 'color'
    http://gonzalolira.blogspot.com/2011...-bullshit.html

    can hardly wait to hear all 'the good news' on the lamestream media 2nite!

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    • #3
      Re: Yield Curve Blinking Red

      Is the yield curve blinking red? I thought this yield curve is very bullish. That's what was the case in 1992, 1977, 2003 when the curve was steep.

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      • #4
        Re: Yield Curve Blinking Red

        ok, lets cut wages.

        But first lets cut expenses. Lets kick out all the props on the housing market, so when J6P salary gets cut 20 - 30%
        He/She can still afford to put a roof over their head.

        No more home mortagage deduction -
        I don't think this is fair to change the rules in the middle of the game, maybe reduce deductability on all outstanding
        loans by 5% per year.

        Get rid of freddie/Fannie/Ginee etc. All housing new loans will need to be privately funded.

        Capital gains on houses?? maybe kill that one too. All though I think capital gains on inflationary income is stealing.

        All public sector unions get a hair cut too so we can reduce property tax and state taxation levels.

        Massive federal cuts so income tax rates can be reduced. This includes military spending.

        If this happened it would be old testament wrath of god stuff. mass hysteria, dogs and cats living together ...

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        • #5
          Re: Yield Curve Blinking Red

          Its depressing to see the value of my home going down every year, but I'm afraid it is inevitable. Lower prices are great for new buyers but what about those of us who don't plan on moving? Someone quick, cheer me up! There must be a silver lining.

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          • #6
            Re: Yield Curve Blinking Red

            Not everyone gets killed when home prices fall.
            If you make a horizontal move you get less for your house, but the new one should cost less too.
            It's only if you owe buukuu bucks to the bank so you have to use new cash to pay off the loan balance.
            Or if you intend to downsize or move to a much cheaper market that you get hurt.

            Hopefully, that is not your situation.

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            • #7
              Re: Yield Curve Blinking Red

              Originally posted by flintlock View Post
              Its depressing to see the value of my home going down every year, but I'm afraid it is inevitable. Lower prices are great for new buyers but what about those of us who don't plan on moving? Someone quick, cheer me up! There must be a silver lining.
              Are you referring to a real loss or a paper loss? If the former, did you buy during the bubble?

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              • #8
                Re: Yield Curve Blinking Red

                Originally posted by charliebrown View Post

                No more home mortgage deduction -

                I don't think this is fair to change the rules in the middle of the game, maybe reduce deductability on all outstanding loans by 5% per year.
                How's this. Eliminate the mortgage interest deduction but grandfather it in to all existing loans. That way the buyers who paid more than they should have get something back while new buyers buy for less.

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                • #9
                  Re: Yield Curve Blinking Red

                  Originally posted by don View Post
                  How's this. Eliminate the mortgage interest deduction but grandfather it in to all existing loans. That way the buyers who paid more than they should have get something back while new buyers buy for less.
                  I'd settle for a glide-path towards elimination for those of us who planned on the deduction; I think a 10-year slope is reasonable, but even 20 years would be in the right direction, and absolutely better than nothing.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Yield Curve Blinking Red

                    Originally posted by flintlock View Post
                    Its depressing to see the value of my home going down every year, but I'm afraid it is inevitable. Lower prices are great for new buyers but what about those of us who don't plan on moving? Someone quick, cheer me up! There must be a silver lining.
                    ok.....hmmmmm....

                    hey! i got one: yer property tax _might_ go down?

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                    • #11
                      Re: Yield Curve Blinking Red

                      Nope, I'm staying put. And my house is pretty average so it's not like I'm taking a big bath. It's still probably worth a little more than I paid for it 8 years ago. I plan on dying in this house so it really doesn't matter that much. I put a lot down on it too. I put a lot of sweat equity into it and that is probably the only reason the value has stayed up. So a lot of that is down the drain, but then that's not why I did the work.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Yield Curve Blinking Red

                        Paper loss only. I have no plans to move. But I'd like to have options if TSHTF. I bought in 2003 but bought at a really good price. Same week we went to war in Iraq nobody was buying. Builder caved on a lowball bid after two deals fell through. Neighbors paid $50k more a year later. They are the ones who got hit hardest by this. I'd guess about half on my street underwater. Really hard to say how many took out HELOCs etc. Most could get original price I think.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Yield Curve Blinking Red

                          Ha! It went up $200! Valuation no change, millage rate up.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Yield Curve Blinking Red

                            That would kill high end RE. Those folks rationalize buying the McMansion by the tax cut they get. Not that high ends homes aren't killed already. My brother the builder had to sell a home he built for about 2/3 the original price. Basically less than cost. How these builders are going to supposedly make money when they can't even sell them for what it cost to build them is beyond me. The McMansions are so over built in my area it's not funny. Maybe some price levels will do better soon, but I doubt it.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Yield Curve Blinking Red

                              Originally posted by flintlock View Post
                              That would kill high end RE. Those folks rationalize buying the McMansion by the tax cut they get. Not that high ends homes aren't killed already. My brother the builder had to sell a home he built for about 2/3 the original price. Basically less than cost. How these builders are going to supposedly make money when they can't even sell them for what it cost to build them is beyond me. The McMansions are so over built in my area it's not funny. Maybe some price levels will do better soon, but I doubt it.
                              Decade by decade FIRE has distort RE to the point it will take some time to correct, if it's allowed to. There's the rub.


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