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  • Other shoe about to drop (finally)? state budget cuts and state government jobs...

    http://www.economicpopulist.org/cont...me-catastrophe

    Submitted by midtowng on Tue, 04/20/2010 - 18:13.
    The municipal budget crisis currently striking the largest states in America is about to enter its worst phase. This NY Times article warns that as many as 300,000 teachers could be laid off this summer.
    As a result, the 2010-11 school term is shaping up as one of the most austere in the last half century. In addition to teacher layoffs, districts are planning to close schools, cut programs, enlarge class sizes and shorten the school day, week or year to save money.
    “We are doing things and considering options I never thought I’d have to consider,” said Peter C. Gorman, superintendent of the Charlotte-Mecklenburg schools in North Carolina, who expects to cut 600 of the district’s 9,400 teachers this year, after laying off 120 last year. “This may be our new economic reality.”
    Districts in California have given pink slips to 22,000 teachers. Illinois authorities are predicting 17,000 public school job cuts. And New York has warned nearly 15,000 teachers that their jobs could disappear in June.
    Secretary of Education Arne Duncan called it an "education catastrophe". That's how we should consider it in the short-term, but in the long-term it could be considered an "economic catastrophe" as our public schools fail to properly educate the next generation. In the longer term it might be a "democracy catastrophe" because an illiterate and uneducated populace is incompatible with a democratic society.
    The only reason that many of these teaching jobs still exist is because of last year's stimulus bill. That money is mostly spent.
    In the economic stimulus bill passed in February 2009, Congress appropriated about $100 billion in emergency education financing. States spent much of that in the current fiscal year, saving more than 342,000 school jobs, about 5.5 percent of all the positions in the nation’s 15,000 school systems, according to a study by the Center on Reinventing Public Education at the University of Washington.

    Some may be under the impression that this is simply "trimming fat". That impression falls apart when you look at it on a local scale. For instance, looking at one school in the San Francisco School District.
    All week Sanchez had been reeling from news that a whopping 10 out of his 20 full-time teachers had been issued pink slips by the San Francisco Unified School District. Including counselors, a vice principal, and other staff, the budget cuts essentially lopped off 24.6 percent of the school's workforce, an unprecedented blow that speaks volumes about the state of California public education.
    Laying off half of the teachers is horrific under any measure. Class sizes will have to be increased by such an amount that the teacher's ability to do their jobs will be dramatically impaired.
    Many community colleges in California will simply close this summer.

    The layoffs aren't limited to just the schools. To give some examples:
    The city of Los Angeles has plans for 3,546 permanent layoffs.
    The state of California will be cutting 5,000 workers and it still won't have a balanced budget.
    The city of Flint, Michigan, is laying off 46 police officers and 26 firefighters.
    Atlantic City is cutting 59 police officers.
    “I’ve been sitting on my hands. ... I’m not apologizing anymore,” he said. “This is a systematic destruction of our police department.”

    The state of Illinois is cutting 460 state troopers and closing five of 22 regional headquarters.
    The governor of Kansas says that the budget simply can't be balanced by cuts alone.
    The state of New York will run out of money in June.
    Arizona's governor is warning of a state "government collapse". He's not exaggerating.
    "If you were to solve this budget problem just with cuts alone, if that was the only solution you wanted to enact, and you want to have a balance budget which they have to have — you'd virtually have to eliminate everything in the state government that's not (voter protected). So that would mean closing the department of corrections, closing all 150 smaller state agencies, not paying our debt service bills, and having some significant reductions to the unprotected funds in K-12, universities, AHCCCS and health services," Bee said.
    You may be wondering what those "smaller" state agencies are. The judiciary system, juvenile corrections, the legislature, the Department of Public Safety, the revenue department, kid health programs and the state mental health hospital are in there.
    About a third of non-protected funds have already been cut.

    Nevada, which already runs a very lean budget, is looking at Medicare diaper rations and forcing personal care givers to buy their own gloves.
    In Florida, the Republican legislature is making a budget that fits their values.
    Both chambers are poised to pass millions in new tax breaks for businesses and yacht buyers while they struggle to find money for education and social services.
    The list just goes on and on. The more you look, the more horror stories pop up. The timing will also be unfortunate. These cuts will be hitting this summer, right around the same time that the federal Census begins to let go its 700,000 temporary hires.

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    Re: Other shoe about to drop (finally)? state budget cuts and state government jobs...

    So maybe there is some good to the fire economy, about time government gets smaller, even at the cost of a so called 'education'.

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    • #3
      Re: Other shoe about to drop (finally)? state budget cuts and state government jobs...

      I think the question that must be answered is, why are we gutting our future at the same time we are spending $575B on defense? $10.5B employs 300,000 teachers at $35K/year (okay, not counting benefits; doubling it does not change the point).

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      • #4
        Re: Other shoe about to drop (finally)? state budget cuts and state government jobs...

        Better question, $23+ Trillion on financial sector bail-outs. (Umm, How many teachers would THAT pay for?)

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        • #5
          Re: Other shoe about to drop (finally)? state budget cuts and state government jobs...

          Originally posted by jtabeb View Post
          Better question, $23+ Trillion on financial sector bail-outs. (Umm, How many teachers would THAT pay for?)
          Yeah, point taken - focus shouldn't be on anything that adds value...just figured the bailout is a sunk cost. If the military could take out the financial sector, then we're talking bang for the buck...

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          • #6
            Re: Other shoe about to drop (finally)? state budget cuts and state government jobs...

            Originally posted by jneal3 View Post
            if the military could take out the financial sector, then we're talking bang for the buck...
            no comment! ;)

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            • #7
              Re: Other shoe about to drop (finally)? state budget cuts and state government jobs...

              You guys are right but you are also assuming that if the government gets some extra cash flow their gonna spend it on reducing the debt, education, or something else that builds society. Thats what I call fantasy land, if/when .gov does get extra cash flow they spend, spend, spend, on 2 things

              1) stupid wars and war preparation
              2) stupid social programs (including bailouts)

              It is ashame they're gutting the future, but thats what you get from the fire economy.

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              • #8
                Re: Other shoe about to drop (finally)? state budget cuts and state government jobs...

                No, I think we are both agreeing with you. (Just trying to point out how freaking idiotic it is).

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                • #9
                  Re: Other shoe about to drop (finally)? state budget cuts and state government jobs...

                  Originally posted by c1ue View Post
                  Arizona's governor is warning of a state "government collapse". He's not exaggerating.
                  Arizona's governor is a "she".

                  My husband, a teacher, just got his contract for next year. Salary freeze... no step increase. We're lucky though, as a lot of teachers in his school district didn't get rehired.

                  Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Other shoe about to drop (finally)? state budget cuts and state government jobs...

                    Originally posted by jtabeb View Post
                    Better question, $23+ Trillion on financial sector bail-outs. (Umm, How many teachers would THAT pay for?)
                    I have heard 11 trillion, 13 trillion, now 23+ trillion. How much money has really been spent. Not the total amount backstopped. Anybody know how much has been spent?

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                    • #11
                      Re: Other shoe about to drop (finally)? state budget cuts and state government jobs...

                      Originally posted by cjppjc View Post
                      I have heard 11 trillion, 13 trillion, now 23+ trillion. How much money has really been spent. Not the total amount backstopped. Anybody know how much has been spent?

                      Here read this. I think $23.7 Trillion includes the backstops.

                      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_241512.html

                      http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25164.html

                      The "spent" cost is a moving target. That said, no I don't have a good number on actual spent, but then it's hard to come by IF you are counting TOTAL COSTS. The amount spent on the bailout is not the same as the "cost". The total cost includes a whole lot more than just the money that disappeared down the black hole. It also includes, state bailouts, unemployment benefits, food stamps, and well you get the idea.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Other shoe about to drop (finally)? state budget cuts and state government jobs...

                        Thanks for the links. 3 to 4 trillion sounds about right. Some of the bailouts have in fact been paid back with interest. So that's a good thing.

                        Because of declining participation in short-term loan programs and because some infusions of money have been repaid, the maximum amount actually spent has declined to a current outstanding balance of $3 trillion, Barofsky said.
                        Treasury spokesman Andrew Williams said the actual cash outlay to date of all the programs cited by Barofsky is actually less than $2 trillion and said the maximum exposure estimate "is inflated in a number of ways

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                        • #13
                          Re: Other shoe about to drop (finally)? state budget cuts and state government jobs...

                          Originally posted by government via cjppc
                          Because of declining participation in short-term loan programs and because some infusions of money have been repaid, the maximum amount actually spent has declined to a current outstanding balance of $3 trillion, Barofsky said.
                          Treasury spokesman Andrew Williams said the actual cash outlay to date of all the programs cited by Barofsky is actually less than $2 trillion and said the maximum exposure estimate "is inflated in a number of ways
                          That number is too low, just as $23.7T is probably too high.

                          For one thing, there is a cash value associated with cheap or free money. The trillions that were given out even as cash-strapped TBTF banks were on the figurative stock market ropes would have cost; Buffet's $10B loan to Goldman for 10% interest plus warrants is an excellent example.

                          The necessity to loan is another example. Not every bank which received these trillions was of the financial caliber of Goldman - no pun intended.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Other shoe about to drop (finally)? state budget cuts and state government jobs...

                            the reason we are spending that much on defense is b/c we would already be a 3rd world country, with all but the rich intelligencia able to afford the oil needed to keep our economy running. That's why we have boots on the ground either in every major oil producing region in the world, or a short aircraft carrier sail away (in the case of Africa), with the exception of Russia.

                            agreed that it is wasteful, but it is reality if we are truly in a peak oil world.

                            On the education question, I just attended a charity benefit for a privately-funded set of schools for underprivileged children in one of the top 5 metro areas in the US. The high school graduation rate of these kids is 3x the rate of the broader public school system in that metro area, with the same level of per-student funding. How do they do it?

                            1. Kids in school from 7:30-5:00p every day.
                            2. Kids in school for 1 hour on Saturdays.
                            3. Kids in school for 1 month in summers.
                            4. Complete school discretion on curriculum, which is 100% college prep starting in Kindergarten (no state- or local-mandated BS)
                            5. The ability to hire/fire any school personnel at any time, for any reason.

                            It isn't that hard to do more with less in our public schools. The parents, unions & public officials need a wake up call.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Other shoe about to drop (finally)? state budget cuts and state government jobs...

                              Originally posted by jneal3 View Post
                              I think the question that must be answered is, why are we gutting our future at the same time we are spending $575B on defense? $10.5B employs 300,000 teachers at $35K/year (okay, not counting benefits; doubling it does not change the point).
                              The US spends a lot more than 570 billion dollars a year on the military.

                              That figure does not include amounts spent on combat.
                              Nuclear weapons budget is folded into the Energy Department budget, etc.

                              By many estimates military spending is now approaching sixty cents out of every dollar.

                              Ten thousand dollars per second on Iraq and Afghanistan…

                              It’s the end of an empire.

                              http://www.globalissues.org/article/...itary-spending

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