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  • #16
    Re: 2,232 days and counting since a major hurricane has hit the coast of the US

    This is like the Japanese saying, there won't be a major earthquake in Tokyo because there hasn't been one for nearly 100 years.

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    • #17
      Incentives for Climate Alarmism

      the money that goes into climate science is government and NGOs, not the media.
      It is not advertising driven, like the stock and property bubble. But still there is an analogous dynamic--people have a reputation and financial stake in C02 catastrophe. Papers are published, books written, tenure given, research money granted, all based on catastrophe. For the media, if it bleeds, it leads. For politicians, it is another thing to regulate and tax, so more power for them. The more issues they can scare people about, the more influence they have.

      Lindzen has been saying for years that the greenhouse effect would lead to more mild weather. The reason is that storms are driven by temperature differences, for example between the poles and the equator. Greenhouse effect makes the poles warmer, but doesn't effect the equator much, so the temperature differences get smaller, leading to smaller storms.

      Also interesting is the transition from "warming" to "climate change" to "more severe weather patterns". Less and less testable predictions---the salient trait of "junk science".
      Last edited by Polish_Silver; 05-20-12, 01:58 PM. Reason: change title

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      • #18
        Re: Incentives for Climate Alarmism

        Originally posted by touchring
        This is like the Japanese saying, there won't be a major earthquake in Tokyo because there hasn't been one for nearly 100 years.
        The difference is: no one puts forth a model which purports to 'project' earthquake incidence anywhere for the next 100 years, and asks that billions and trillions be invested to 'prevent' it.

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        • #19
          Re: 2,232 days and counting since a major hurricane has hit the coast of the US

          merely yet another negative effect - not to get offtrack on this thread, but are there _any_ positive effects of ZIRP beyond what its done to gold and the BS 'wealth effect' of a fraudulant runup in the dow? (besides fattening the balance sheets/bottom lines of TBTF Inc, that is)
          In a word, NO.

          A fantastic transfer of wealth vehicle.

          Low mileage too!

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          • #20
            Re: 2,232 days and counting since a major hurricane has hit the coast of the US

            The standard response would be: without QE, equity prices would crash, home loans would be harder to get,
            real estate prices would crash, more financial institutions would need bailouts, unemployment would be higher.

            Personally, I think the whole system should have been allowed to crash and burn.

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            • #21
              Re: Incentives for Climate Alarmism

              Originally posted by c1ue View Post
              The difference is: no one puts forth a model which purports to 'project' earthquake incidence anywhere for the next 100 years, and asks that billions and trillions be invested to 'prevent' it.

              I think we have to look at the world climate as a whole, understand that Australia and Thailand had very bad floods in recent 2 years.

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              • #22
                Re: Incentives for Climate Alarmism

                Originally posted by touchring
                I think we have to look at the world climate as a whole, understand that Australia and Thailand had very bad floods in recent 2 years.
                I think that if you search the world over every year, you will find extreme events somewhere. That's the nature of having a large area with variability in it.

                Specifically on the subject of flooding: there is plenty of academic literature that shows there is no discernable pattern in flooding - up or down. In particular, the recent flooding in Australia was particularly notable because of the predictions of 'semi-permanent' drought - said predictions being made by precisely those people who are saying climate catastrophe will come.

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