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  • Slimprofits
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    http://summaries.cochrane.org/CD0012...healthy-adults
    We evaluated the effect of immunisation with influenza vaccines on preventing influenza A or B infections (efficacy), influenza-like illness (ILI) and its consequences (effectiveness), and determined whether exposure to influenza vaccines is associated with serious or severe harms. The target populations were healthy adults, including pregnant women and newborns.
    The preventive effect of parenteral inactivated influenza vaccine on healthy adults is small: at least 40 people would need vaccination to avoid one ILI case (95% confidence interval (CI) 26 to 128) and 71 people would need vaccination to prevent one case of influenza (95% CI 64 to 80). Vaccination shows no appreciable effect on working days lost or hospitalisation.
    The real impact of biases could not be determined for about 70% of the included studies (e.g. insufficient reporting details, very different scores among the items evaluated). About 20% of the included studies (mainly cohorts) had a high risk of bias. Just under 10% had good methodological quality.

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  • Kadriana
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    I did not get vaccine nor did my family but I think the WHO was and still is worried about the mutated form of H1N1. I think this virus has to be taken seriously considering how many young, healthy people died in Mexico in the early stages. Likely, the mild strain seems like the dominant one but it could have been much worse.

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  • Diarmuid
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    Originally posted by Sapiens View Post
    National Emergency provisions still operational?

    Faked pandemic
    Here my Interview for the danish "Information" on the swine-flu pandemic:
    By Louise Voller, Kristian Villesen

    December 27. 2009

    ”We have had a mild flu - and a false pandemic,” says Wolfgang Wodarg, the chair of the Health Committee in The European Council. The German parliamentarian is also an epidemiologist and former health director in Flensburg. For that reason he has followed the H1N1-pandemic closely since June 11 and up to the present. He calls the pandemic "one of the greatest medical scandals of the century”, and for that reason he has decided to take the case to the European Council:

    "In January, we will arrange an emergency debate about the influence of the pharmaceutical industry on the WHO, and 47 parliaments all over Europe are going to be informed. Following this, we will initiate an investigation and hearings involving those responsible for the pandemic emergency,” says Wolfgang Wodarg.

    "The aim is that none of the pharmaceutical companies under any circumstances must be allowed to make their influence felt on pandemic emergencies,” he says and adds that rules for patenting also will be checked:

    "Vaccines are also an ethical issue. The pharmaceutical industry should not be allowed to get a patent to develop a preparation which is so important for our society.”
    DEFINITION OF A PANDEMIC

    As early as 2004, during the avian flu, Wolfgang Wodarg (at that time a German parliamentarian for the SPD) went to see WHO to ask for proof that a pandemic emergency was required:

    "The avian flu was more dangerous than the H1N1, but far less contagious, and accordingly the arguments for a coming pandemic were thin to put it mildly. But the avian flu helped create an atmosphere of panic, and it influenced many countries to create a pandemic emergency plan. Furthermore Germany, Denmark and many other countries have bought large stocks of Tamiflu, even though it has not been sufficiently tested,” he says, and criticises also the vaccine contracts that many countries entered into in the period after the avian flu:

    "The governments have sealed contracts with vaccine producers where they secure orders in advance and take upon themselves almost all the responsibility. In this way the producers of vaccines are sure of enormous gains without having any financial risks. So they just wait, until WHO says "pandemic” and activate the contracts."

    For that reason, Wolfgang Wodarg also finds it suspicious that WHO changed it’s definition of a pandemic on it’s homepage at the end of May this year:

    "From June 2009 it is no longer necessary, that "an enormous amount of people have contracted the illness or died” - there simply have to be a virus, spreading beyond borders, and one that people have no immunity towards,” he says.
    THE PATENT HOLDERS ARE THE WINNERS

    Every year a new flu comes into existence - and every year you accordingly mix existing vaccine with the new virus in order to inoculate the population against the new seasonal flu.

    Wolfgang Wodarg holds the opinion, that you could have used the same method to vaccinate the population against swine flu in a much cheaper fashion.

    "If you simply had added H1N1 virus to the flu vaccines we already have in stocks, then there would have been no need for at pandemic emergency - but some of the additives in the vaccines are patented, and therefore nobody from the industry is interested in mixing the old vaccine with the new one,” he says and adds:

    "Furthermore the producers recommended, that you inoculate twice, which is not normal. It is self evident that they earn more money in that way. Therefore several things made me suspicious.”
    NO CONTROL OVER WHO

    Wolfgang Wodarg chose to consult all the other members of the European Council because at the end of the day there is no control with the WHO. Only governments can exercise influence through the annual assembly in WHO. Today, a majority of the Health Committee in the European Council agree on an independent investigation of the influence of the pharmaceutical industry on WHO.

    In Russia a Russian parliamentarian has suggested a boycot of the WHO until transparency is established. What do you think about that idea?

    Wodarg:"Everybody who knows about epidemiology should have questioned the way WHO handled this case from the beginning.”

    How will we ensure we have technical knowledge about vaccines, if the industry is not allowed to participate?

    Wodarg:"Independent institutes which are controlled by the parliaments of the member countries, and which maintain complete transparency so that the public can follow what is going on. They will have to set the standard for how much money is going to be used on vaccines. In Germany alone, we have spend 700 millions euros on pandemic emergency and in Europe it is around two billions euros. It is emormous amount of money. But furthermore vaccines are an ethical topic. A vaccine which is that important should not be patented. Everyone, who technically is capable of doing so should produce vaccines as quickly as possible when an emergency arises. In that way we can save more lives when a true pandemic arrives.”

    Is it realistic to remove the industry totally from the WHO?

    Wodarg: "No, and therefore we have to insist on transparency. Furthermore they don’t have to participate in the committees, which in reality decide when we have a pandemic, and who is going to be inoculated. They just have to answer how quickly they can deliver vaccines. And only when asked,” says Wolfgang Wodarg.

    WHO gives 180 million doses to third world countries, which they have got from the member countries surplus stocks. What do you thing about that?

    Wodarg:"I find it completely senseless, and if we don’t maintain the control with untested additives then it may cause more harm than good."

    Source: www.information.dk/219754 (danish)

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  • cjppjc
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    What ever happened to women and children first?

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  • swgprop
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    Wall Street bankers at front of queue for scarce swine flu vaccine

    Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and Morgan Stanley among first New York employers to receive shipments of H1N1 antidote

    >>>>>

    One can only hope that if there are any contaminated batches of the vaccine floating around that this is one of them.

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  • ThePythonicCow
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    Originally posted by babbittd View Post
    “I don’t care who you are, how rich you are, how famous you are,” she said. “If you’re not in the priority group, get out of the line and let the people who are in the priority groups get their vaccination.”
    She's got it wrong. Those hockey players who jump the line are performing an important civic duty :rolleyes:. By creating a bit of outrage involving such hockey celebrities, both hockey fans and hockey haters are drawn into the "vaccine shortage" scam, thereby increasing the number of people eager to get the shots for themselves and their children as soon as possible.

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  • Slimprofits
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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

    TORONTO (AP)—Ontario health minister Deb Matthews vowed Thursday to investigate whether Toronto’s NBA and NHL players jumped the line for the swine flu shot while other groups are being forced to wait as the province’s supply dwindles.

    Matthews said she shares the outrage sparked by reports that Maple Leafs and Raptors players got the shot even though the province doesn’t have enough yet to vaccinate school-age children.

    “I don’t care who you are, how rich you are, how famous you are,” she said. “If you’re not in the priority group, get out of the line and let the people who are in the priority groups get their vaccination.”

    Matthews expects Ontario to run out of the regular H1N1 vaccine at the end of the week due to Ottawa’s dramatic supply slowdown.

    The province has enough vaccine to immunize 2.2 million people, which is intended only for the estimated 3.4 million Ontarians who fall under the province’s high-priority groups, she said.

    They include pregnant women, children between 6 months and 5 years of age, people who care for infants and other people who can’t get the vaccine, people under the age of 65 with chronic conditions and those living in remote communities. The government wants to add school-age children as a priority group, but Matthews said it doesn’t have enough vaccine.

    She doesn’t yet know how the Maple Leafs and Raptors players got the shot.

    A health employee in Alberta was fired after letting the Calgary Flames jump the swine flu shot line.

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  • ocelotl
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    Been there, seen that, got the T shirt. Check how the emergency is dealt down here in ol' Mexico.
    Last edited by ocelotl; 11-12-09, 12:31 AM.

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  • lurker
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    Re: Medical chief warns of extremists’ attacking flu vaccination campaign

    "Pandemrix" ... is that really the name of GSK's H1N1 vaccine ?

    I wonder what they'll call the H5N1 vaccine if (God forbid) we ever need one to counter a REAL pandemic.

    "ThisTimeIt'sARealPandemrix" ?

    I'll be interested to see if the WHO advise that children only need 1 dose will be heeded by the CDC or whether they'll continue to insist on 2.

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  • Sapiens
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    Medical chief warns of extremists’ attacking flu vaccination campaign

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6896172.ece

    Medical chief warns of extremists’ attacking flu vaccination campaign

    Extremists are attempting to derail the introduction of a national swine flu vaccination campaign, the country’s top doctor has warned.

    Sir Liam Donaldson, the Chief Medical Officer for England, spoke out against protests aimed at deterring people from having the jab. In one case, a Birmingham hospital had already been flyposted with anti-vaccination messages as its immunisation campaign started.

    Estimates suggest that 78,000 people in England fell ill with swine flu last week, an increase on the 53,000 new cases in the week before.

    ...

    He added that the vaccine against the H1N1 virus offered the chance to prevent vulnerable people developing serious illness, and spoke out against a poster campaign that depicted the jab as a “weapon of mass destruction”.

    “We have had a lot of unfair public criticism and attacks in an attempt to scare people about a vaccine that’s potentially life-saving,” he added.

    “We have seen it before with vaccines like MMR [the combined jab for measles, mumps and rubella], and now extremists are doing the same thing again.”

    Many doctors have not yet received the first doses of the Pandemrix vaccine, made by GlaxoSmithKline

    ...

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  • D-Mack
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    Billy Corgan Blogs About Swine Flu, Refuses to Get Vaccinated

    10/29/09, 1:22 pm EST
    “I am not a doctor, and I am in no way suggesting that you should follow any medical advice from me,” Billy Corgan writes at the top of a blog post about swine flu. What follows is nearly 850 words of Corgan spitting conspiracy theories on his Everything From Here to There blog regarding the H1N1 virus.
    Smashing Pumpkins’ frontman has a central thesis — that the illness was “created by man” and driven by a “propaganda machine” powered by fear. “I for one will not be taking the vaccine. I do not trust those who make the vaccines, or the apparatus behind it all to push it on us thru fear,” Corgan writes.

    ..

    http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdail...et-vaccinated/

    thinking musicians ?

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  • ThePythonicCow
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    Originally posted by Kadriana View Post
    Now I am going to crawl back in bed since I'm still fighting the flu.
    I wish you well. Thanks for the clarification.

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  • Kadriana
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    Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
    You posted this in response to a post of mine, though I see no particular connection between your post and my post other than we're both talking about swine flu vaccine. Did I miss something in your post?
    No, I was just kind of throwing it on the end of the vaccine conversation. I was just wanting to throw up the link for people curious about the vaccine. Dr. Sears is selective about vaccines so I like him as a source. I think some European countries did add adjunctives to theirs and they're seeing more reactions. Now I am going to crawl back in bed since I'm still fighting the flu.

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  • ThePythonicCow
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    Originally posted by c1ue View Post
    Yes, upon further reflection what was probably talked about was not a vaccine so much as an antiviral.
    Ok - that makes more sense. Something such as Tamiflu I suppose. Yes, I agree that Tamiflu has its problems, as you describe.

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  • c1ue
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    Originally posted by TPC
    A dozen doses of what -- some flu vaccine? That's strange, unless perhaps for the purposes of some testing for toxicity, in which case I wouldn't force such testing on every employee.
    Yes, upon further reflection what was probably talked about was not a vaccine so much as an antiviral.

    The substance of the conversation was that unless you were really really sick, you were better off not taking the dose. Because taking the dose would make you really really sick.

    Given that the person speaking (and their co-workers) were in the 30 to 35 age group, seemed interesting that our government would stockpile so much.

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