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  • #16
    Re: Eric King Interviews Whistleblower Andrew Maguire And Adrian Douglas Of GATA

    Originally posted by jtabeb View Post
    Wow, 100-1 leverage in the paper gold market. (So if this fails. does the price go up or down?)
    Two words: Buying opportunity.

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    • #17
      Re: Eric King Interviews Whistleblower Andrew Maguire And Adrian Douglas Of GATA

      KWN has now been down yesterday and today.... hmmm...

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      • #18
        Re: Eric King Interviews Whistleblower Andrew Maguire And Adrian Douglas Of GATA

        Originally posted by doom&gloom View Post
        KWN has now been down yesterday and today.... hmmm...
        Just had trouble getting on, then... voilą! Listened to the whole thing. My guess is they're having a lot of traffic.

        This is some wild stuff. I would love to know the names of the two as-of-yet unnamed entities mentioned by Maguire.

        Buying opportunity? Definite reinforcement that the physical is undervalued. How long can they keep this up? 100-1 sheesh!

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        • #19
          Re: Eric King Interviews Whistleblower Andrew Maguire And Adrian Douglas Of GATA

          LBMA..

          Are BullionVault.com connected to them in any way ??

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          • #20
            Re: Eric King Interviews Whistleblower Andrew Maguire And Adrian Douglas Of GATA

            Originally posted by icm63 View Post
            LBMA..

            Are BullionVault.com connected to them in any way ??
            Word to the wise BV is NOT PHYSical. Take your funds out now and get physical so as not to get SCREWED later. That what all these things are. Physical Rules and paper drools.

            Just saying, if you need more proof, then you'll just have to wait for your failure to deliver to show up. (Not KIDDING)

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            • #21
              Re: Eric King Interviews Whistleblower Andrew Maguire And Adrian Douglas Of GATA

              From Ed Steer today:

              In the wee hours of Tuesday morning, Eric King of King World News sent me the interview headlined above... and linked below. Because the interview runs about 40 minutes in length... and I already had a pile of stories in my Tuesday report... I decided not to run it until today.

              But I did listen to the whole thing as soon as I got it... and it was a shocker to say the least! I called Eric on the telephone as soon as I got up in the morning... and he told me that shortly after he posted the interview, his website had been hacked and about the last third of the interview had been deliberately erased from one of ISP's servers. It was the part where Andrew Maguire and GATA's Adrian Douglas started talking about things like "fraud", "treason" and "financial terrorism".
              http://www.caseyresearch.com/displayGsd.php

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              • #22
                Re: Eric King Interviews Whistleblower Andrew Maguire And Adrian Douglas Of GATA

                Originally posted by thisandthat.nowandth View Post
                You couldn't make this shit up if you tried! (and were not! that's the scary ******* part)

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                • #23
                  Re: Eric King Interviews Whistleblower Andrew Maguire And Adrian Douglas Of GATA

                  Originally posted by jtabeb View Post
                  Word to the wise BV is NOT PHYSical. Take your funds out now and get physical so as not to get SCREWED later. That what all these things are. Physical Rules and paper drools.

                  Just saying, if you need more proof, then you'll just have to wait for your failure to deliver to show up. (Not KIDDING)
                  iTulip has advertised BV and I believe that EJ has recommended them.

                  Yes, we know of your fondness for physical gold, the stuff you can hold in your hands. That fondness is probably more notorious around these parts than my cowness .

                  Yes, BV is clearly not physical in-hand gold.

                  But have you any additional information to impart that would cast doubt on BV's gold? BV does claim to have and hold allocated bars. Are you suggesting they're lying, or are you suggesting that their gold might be (for all intents and purposes) stolen?

                  (No, I am not denying that such theft is impossible. Human history is full of gold theft, sometimes in immense quantities.)
                  Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Eric King Interviews Whistleblower Andrew Maguire And Adrian Douglas Of GATA

                    Originally posted by jtabeb View Post
                    You couldn't make this shit up if you tried! (and were not! that's the scary ******* part)
                    Hmm... I'm starting to get scared. Perhaps I have just answered my question in my previous post just above.
                    Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Eric King Interviews Whistleblower Andrew Maguire And Adrian Douglas Of GATA

                      WHat this daily BullionVault (BV) audit then ? Smoke and mirrors

                      http://www.bullionvault.com/audit.do

                      They are a member of the LBMA.

                      NO matter my money is out of there, and I am off to Perth Mint or buy hold in hands stuff?

                      Any issues with Perth Mint ??

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                      • #26
                        Re: Eric King Interviews Whistleblower Andrew Maguire And Adrian Douglas Of GATA

                        Originally posted by icm63 View Post
                        WHat this daily BullionVault (BV) audit then ? Smoke and mirrors

                        http://www.bullionvault.com/audit.do

                        They are a member of the LBMA.

                        NO matter my money is out of there, and I am off to Perth Mint or buy hold in hands stuff?

                        Any issues with Perth Mint ??

                        Hands MAN!!!!!!!!!!

                        Perth mint Same! Kitco storage account Same!

                        Same problem as the ETFs you can't be sure you'll get it when and if you ever want it or need it. Would cash settlement work for you? (Yeah, I thought NOT).



                        Dude, if your are GOING TO BUY IT, OWN IT AND HOLD IT, For GOD's sake?!?


                        Okay?

                        How much more LACK of trust do you need.

                        Capice?

                        Did I mention

                        Bigger than MADOFF:confused:

                        Ponzi:eek:

                        100-1 leverage, :eek::eek::eek:

                        Anything else I HAVE TO ADD?!?!?!?!??!?
                        :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad:

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                        • #27
                          Re: Eric King Interviews Whistleblower Andrew Maguire And Adrian Douglas Of GATA

                          Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
                          iTulip has advertised BV and I believe that EJ has recommended them.

                          Yes, we know of your fondness for physical gold, the stuff you can hold in your hands. That fondness is probably more notorious around these parts than my cowness .

                          Yes, BV is clearly not physical in-hand gold.

                          But have you any additional information to impart that would cast doubt on BV's gold? BV does claim to have and hold allocated bars. Are you suggesting they're lying, or are you suggesting that their gold might be (for all intents and purposes) stolen?

                          (No, I am not denying that such theft is impossible. Human history is full of gold theft, sometimes in immense quantities.)
                          EJ ALSO recommend to Go long cough*UNG*cough and now says ... well see this post.
                          http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...342#post154342
                          so I would say his record has not been stellar.

                          If you are going to play the role of the cocky asshole, which I AM, you'd better be able to back it up, which I CAN.

                          My record has been EARLY, CLEAR, CONSISTENT, and CORRECT (beaten the Itulip model portfolio by 400% since inception).

                          Questions?

                          (I don't know SHIT about BV, except they are a custodial holder that WILL ONLY PAY OUT IN BULLION IF YOU ARE FORCED TO EXPATRIATE. That's why I would never use them. If that last part doesn't sound fishy to anyone here, fine.
                          To me it smells like a flaming turd. And it sounds fishy too!)
                          Last edited by jtabeb; 04-01-10, 02:20 AM. Reason: Had to correct mixed metaphor or cow will give me grief

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                          • #28
                            Re: Eric King Interviews Whistleblower Andrew Maguire And Adrian Douglas Of GATA

                            Originally posted by jtabeb View Post
                            (I don't know SHIT about BV, except they are a custodial holder that WILL ONLY PAY OUT IN BULLION IF YOU ARE FORCED TO EXPATRIATE.
                            From the BV web site:
                            Yes - BullionVault allows physical withdrawal of gold, but only in special circumstances. The most likely case is when your bank is no longer a practicable recipient of your funds - as might be the case after political or economic upheaval in your country of residence.
                            ..

                            These are the reasons BullionVault offers private custody only as a last resort in cases of unavoidable emigration.
                            You were spot on, jtabeb.

                            Four letter word ... four letter word ... four letter word.
                            Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Eric King Interviews Whistleblower Andrew Maguire And Adrian Douglas Of GATA

                              Dude, if your are GOING TO BUY IT, OWN IT AND HOLD IT, For GOD's sake?!?


                              Okay?

                              How much more LACK of trust do you need.

                              Capice?

                              Did I mention

                              Bigger than MADOFF:confused:

                              Ponzi:eek:

                              100-1 leverage, :eek::eek::eek:

                              Anything else I HAVE TO ADD?!?!?!?!??!?
                              I HEAR YEEE

                              I am going to get my stuff here : www.newzealandmint.com and put it under the bed

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                              • #30
                                Re: Eric King Interviews Whistleblower Andrew Maguire And Adrian Douglas Of GATA

                                Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
                                But have you any additional information to impart that would cast doubt on BV's gold? BV does claim to have and hold allocated bars. Are you suggesting they're lying, or are you suggesting that their gold might be (for all intents and purposes) stolen?
                                I did business with BV for some time, then closed my account about a year ago. The reason I did so was not because I didn't believe they have the gold as they say they do. I did a fair amount of due diligence before opening my account: I read their audit reports in detail, reviewed their vaulting agreements, etc, etc.

                                The concern that eventually arose for me is similar to keeping valuables in a safe deposit box. If the government knows where that kind of thing is located, then there's nothing in principle to stop them from intervening at some point in some way: preventing sales, confiscating holdings, preventing or intercepting funds transfers, etc. Even with allocated ownership, and even though BV is not a US company, there is still tremendous political pressure that could be applied.

                                There is also, of course, some (small) risk that the people running BV are crooks, and they have put together a very elaborate fraud. I was willing to accept those risks for quite a while, but after the amount of market intervention and associated obvious government fraud and deception reached insane levels last year, the situation fundamentally changed for me; I changed my mind and pulled out.

                                As jtabeb says, if you don't hold it, you don't truly own it.

                                Originally posted by icm63 View Post
                                I am going to get my stuff here : www.newzealandmint.com and put it under the bed
                                I've dealt with them. Even though they are a private company and not government-sponsored as their name might imply, they are a first-class act; totally professional; highly recommended. One thing I don't like is that their bullion coins (the "Kiwi") are not legal tender. Also, they are packaged individually in silly plastic pouches with cardboard that make them look like something you'd find in a tourist shop. However, for those of us living in NZ or Oz, though, hopefully they will be a little more liquid than something like US Buffaloes (only 0.999+ coins are viable here; anything less gets hit with the 12.5% GST tax).

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