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  • #31
    Re: New Car choice for EV's

    One traditional manufacturer of hydrogen fuel cells is Ballard Power (BLDP).
    They've been developing PEM fuels cells since 1989. They spun off their passenger car fuel cell business to Ford and Daimler but eventually bought back much of those assets.

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    • #32
      Re: New Car choice for EV's

      Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
      I can't make any recommendations shiny. Not familiar with the emerging players. But what I might suggest is looking for a hydrogen ETF that holds a basket of companies, or an alternate energy ETF with a good track record and strategy. That is how I would probably play it.
      Thanks. This is helpful.

      Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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      • #33
        Re: New Car choice for EV's

        Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
        One traditional manufacturer of hydrogen fuel cells is Ballard Power (BLDP).
        They've been developing PEM fuels cells since 1989. They spun off their passenger car fuel cell business to Ford and Daimler but eventually bought back much of those assets.
        ^Also this^

        Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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        • #34
          Re: New Car choice for EV's

          Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
          Bad news for Tesla.

          https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/gm-...kola-1.5716001

          I suspect more of these trucks will sell than Elon's Cybertruck (if Tesla actually ever builds it).




          And note the emphasis on hydrogen fuel cell technology in the announcement.
          Niki is wondering WHY GM is "Investing" in Nikola .......Mega is not!
          GM is going to give Nikola its tec & turn it into Tesla 2.0......drain falling Tesla of investment & investment/High Tec "Buzz"..

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          • #35
            Re: New Car choice for EV's

            Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
            One traditional manufacturer of hydrogen fuel cells is Ballard Power (BLDP).
            They've been developing PEM fuels cells since 1989. They spun off their passenger car fuel cell business to Ford and Daimler but eventually bought back much of those assets.
            I think their stock has about tripled in the last year.

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            • #36
              Re: New Car choice for EV's

              Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
              I think their stock has about tripled in the last year.

              They are a good Canadian company. I visited their facilities on Vancouver Island back in 1992 to look at their PEM fuel cells.
              Back then they also had a thriving business making exotic batteries that generated steady cashflow while they worked to establish a fuel cell business.
              Their core competence in electrochemistry was world class, at least according to the electrochemist we brought along.

              It seems like any time automotive fuel cells get good press Ballard Power stock does well.

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              • #37
                Re: New Car choice for EV's

                The money will be in the production of "Green Hydrogen" not car fuel cells....

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                • #38
                  Re: New Car choice for EV's

                  Originally posted by Mega View Post
                  The money will be in the production of "Green Hydrogen" not car fuel cells....

                  Good point Mike. Exxon gross sales are 10 times as big as Cummins. Far more money is spent on fuel than on the engines.

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                  Last edited by thriftyandboringinohio; 09-10-20, 11:04 AM.

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                  • #39
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                    • #40
                      Re: New Car choice for EV's

                      Originally posted by Mega View Post
                      Niki is wondering WHY GM is "Investing" in Nikola .......Mega is not!
                      GM is going to give Nikola its tec & turn it into Tesla 2.0......drain falling Tesla of investment & investment/High Tec "Buzz"..
                      Just a ZH information. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/ni...comment_stream


                      If you ar interested in fuel cells, also read the comments. Some seem to be well informed.

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                      • #41
                        Re: New Car choice for EV's

                        Indeed, i agree but for GM investing........I don't think Nikola has anything major, its just a way of getting into the Truck market.

                        Mike

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                        • #42
                          Re: New Car choice for EV's

                          If only they had cutting edge build TEC of Tesla:-
                          https://www.carscoops.com/2020/09/th...its-condenser/

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