China goes Nuclear in Britan

[Mega]

Well, Well i can recall Gordon Brown (Then Prime minster) getting on a plane to China to "offer" them the chance to recycle their $ though London......however he made it plain that China would NEVER be allowed to buy anything "Strat-tree-ic"..........he got to China to a VERY low key welcome, didn't get to meet their prez only a Prime Minster (they got more than one).........they read his statment.....& just laughed at him..
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...-nuclear-power

Now we are "Happy" to sell China ANYTHING...
Mike

[Mega]

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Thats right Gordon, they told you to F*ck off!

[Starving Steve]

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China has the common sense to build atomic power plants, and the US, Canada, and the UK waste money, waste time, waste planning, waste human energy, and destroy beautiful scenery with WORTHLESS solar panels and windmills..... And we can thank our green friends for this; i.e, the ones who want to destroy our standard of living, let people starve, and give the hoodlums in the Middle East control of the world.

It's about time we started to be blunt about what the green lobby ( the Sierra Club, the Green Alliance, the Union of Concerned Scientists, the Friends of the Earth, Greenpeace, Earth First, among a host of others ) has done to us.

LEAN FORWARD.

[photon555]

Re: China goes Nuclear in Britan

China has the common sense to build atomic power plants, and the US, Canada, and the UK waste money, waste time, waste planning, waste human energy, and destroy beautiful scenery with WORTHLESS solar panels and windmills..... And we can thank our green friends for this; i.e, the ones who want to destroy our standard of living, let people starve, and give the hoodlums in the Middle East control of the world.

It's about time we started to be blunt about what the green lobby ( the Sierra Club, the Green Alliance, the Union of Concerned Scientists, the Friends of the Earth, Greenpeace, Earth First, among a host of others ) has done to us.

LEAN FORWARD.

+ ONE

Without a grounding in basic science, most people don't understand that solar and wind only make sense in niche applications. They will NEVER provide more than 10% of total power and even that much will require enormous subsidies causing massive malinvestment and economic dislocation.

[lektrode]

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....It's about time we started to be blunt about what the green lobby ( the Sierra Club, the Green Alliance, the Union of Concerned Scientists, the Friends of the Earth, Greenpeace, Earth First, among a host of others ) has done to us.

blunt.... ?

started to be?

uhhh.... mr steve i always like the subtle, understated nuance in your comments on this topic....

but yeah, +1 to that

[Techdread]

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+ ONE

Without a grounding in basic science, most people don't understand that solar and wind only make sense in niche applications. They will NEVER provide more than 10% of total power and even that much will require enormous subsidies causing massive malinvestment and economic dislocation.

You're forgetting that Nuclear power has and will need huge subsidies to be viable.

[lakedaemonian]

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You're forgetting that Nuclear power has and will need huge subsidies to be viable.

So if nuclear power plants will require government support and subsidies.....I wonder if it's a suitable public/private partnership relationship?

Government gets X% of electricity revenue to be the ultimate backstop in the event of a Fukashima event......as well as defined long-term waste management costs?

I'm a big fan of nuclear....simply because it's been quite consistent and reliable over the decades........and I'd be happy to have a plant in my backyard.....if it wasn't so seismically active.

Is it easy enough to extrapolate the REAL cost of producing a kilowatt hour of electricity from various nuclear plants INCLUDING a realistic(and ring fenced) set aside fund for waste management and "catastrophic insurance cover"?

I wonder if tidal energy generation has any REAL promise....or if it's as poor a return on investment as solar/wind? I would think with tidal it would have the theoretical consistency(which I understand is a critical flaw of solar/wind) of power generation somewhere circa hydropower.

[photon555]

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If we reprocessed the fuel we could use it ten times instead of once and there would be much less waste to store. I believe it was a political decision to not do that. At the root of most of our problems is an overbearing government bureacracy doing it's best to ruin the world one regulation at a time.