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  • #31
    Re: Surely not closed

    Here's a quick translation...

    E 'un international intrigue. The mystery of 134.5 billion dollars seized in Chiasso on 3 June is increasingly alarming and would have originated in the Japanese financial crisis of 1998.
    Circulating bills of one billion dollars but not one issued by the Fed A history of finance in parallel with the U.S. secret services (and our) results. The two stopped at Chiasso has a name: Mitsuyoshi Watanabe and Akihiko Yamaguchi, characters already thoroughly "burned" in the international financial field and involved (in 2004) in the case of an unauthorized release of the Japanese bond (so-called Japanese Bond Series 57 - Securities exclusively used in intergovernmental transactions) worth 500 billion yen each. A transaction where you suspect there has been the zampino CIA. Yamaguchi was also indicated by confidential sources as manager of the Japanese Ministry of Finance and brother of Toshiro Muto. A name that carries so far and at the top by understanding why, after a month and a half, yet it was not issued a single official.



    United States Japan and Italy

    United States, Japan and Italy appear to varying degrees embarrassed by a scandal protagonists of state. The day after the G8 summit would come dell'Aquila confirmation that a special committee would be arriving from the States to determine finally whether the evidence seized, amounting to scale to the fourth place spot in the ranking of the largest creditors of the U.S., after Russia and prior of England, whether true or false. In any case it is the largest traffic rate in history. But the arrival of "experts" Americans unnecessarily since the fabled days following the seizure of Como.

    Abnormal traffic status

    True or false? It has no great importance: it is a figure that can affect currency assets of the dollar. One possibility that has set in the secret services fibrillation and central banks around the world. The Bank of Italy did not wish to make comments by returning the ball to the Ministry of Economy where anonymous sources have confirmed that in this case the rate is the most worrying. In this issue there are too many things that do not work. For starters, those seized in Como securities are excluded from the normal trading since the amounts and denominations used in transactions and relationships between states and governments and is not credible that they have been put into service for an attempted fraud. The fact is that June 3 Como financiers are sure to blow, according to sources in the Il Giornale, imbeccati by the CIA that in early May would have warned us of the possible arrival in Italy of a flood of bonds in the U.S. that "the North Korean government was trying to convert into euros. Our services thus alerted the Guardia di Finanza and titles, for an amount that North Korea has never possessed, arrive punctually at Chiasso, transported by two expected regularly to the eastern gate.

    The titles and the track Americana

    These 249 titles. 10 Kennedy Notes from a billion dollars each and 239 U.S. Treasury securities by $ 500 million each. Notes from its Kennedy arrives bandol to start intricatissima unravel this skein. It is not good for the Treasury but real paper currency. Yes, sir, this is business one billion dollars each. The fact is however that the release of the State ticket was, until the seizure of Como, if not secret, at least not in the public domain. Obviously it is very unlikely that a forger plays with absolute perfection (for the Guardia di Finanza is indistinguishable from the original title) a ticket is not in circulation and which is not known to exist. The super-notes were issued in 1998 and are not guaranteed by the Federal Reserve that, in fact, has already officially declared that he never issued securities for the par value of one billion dollars.

    The Fed does not mind

    The super-tickets would be part of a special issue made in the order 11110 executive, signed on 4 June 1963 by President John Kennedy who had returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without the involvement of Congress, secured by stocks Federal silver, and without going through the Fed after the assassination of President Kennedy 11110 executive order fell into disuse and banknotes issued by the government were withdrawn from the market. But the fact is that the Executive Order 11110 has never been formally repealed. It is estimated that in 1998 99% of banknotes in circulation were "Banknotes of the Federal Reserves' while 1% were" Banknotes of the United States. " Need to know, to understand something, that the press of the two types of notes is almost identical except that one says "banknote of the Federal Reserve" and the other "banknote of the United States." Moreover, those of the Federal Reserve have brand and serial number green, the U.S. brand and serial number red. Just look at the photo spread by the Guardia di Finanza di Como to realize that the notes of a billion dollars seized in Chiasso were made by the Treasury, not the U.S. Fed

    The advisers to Obama and the Crisis of 1998

    Dates back to 1998 the great crisis of the yen, the Japanese economy on the brink of bankruptcy and the risk of a collapse of financial markets similar to what we are experiencing today.
    One possibility then avoided by the U.S. government decided to support the weight of the yen rate in free fall. No one remembers more than one crisis but personally intervened at the Rubin, the Treasury minister, and his deputy Larry Summers, now economic adviser to Barak Obama and at the special envoy to Washington in the countries in trouble, in Tokyo on precipitatosi June 18 1998 to meet with Finance Minister Hikaru Matsunaga and his deputy, Eisuke Sakakibara, the man known on the markets as "Mr. Yen".

    A novel trap

    Now the really interesting fact is that the two Japanese arrested in Chiasso, with the mammoth amount of 134.5 billion dollars, the characters are thoroughly "burned" they were involved in an earlier traffic miliardiario securities counterfeit yen. In more precautions taken by the two to cross the Italian-Swiss border is now the investigators appeared totally inadequate to the traffic put in place. An inconsistent with the naivety of the two curriculum couriers Japanese who have previous trades by financial professionals of the highest quality. Yamaguchi in particular seems the most interesting and around which could begin to close the circle of the mysteries on the "treasure of Chiasso" if it were confirmed that this is a former senior official of the Japanese Ministry of the Treasury and if his name actually brings Toshiro Muto to the accounts could begin to return. Toshiro Muto was until recently vice governor of the Bank of Japan but also in 1998 contestatissimo Director of the Secretariat of the Ministry of Finance of Hikaru Matsunaga and Eisuke Sakakibara, the protagonists, with Summers and Rubin, of " rescue the yen "in 1998. Sakakibara until recently was also among the strongest sponsor of the nomination of Muto to governor of the Central Bank of Japan. Everything suggests that the titles of the "treasure of Chiasso" are authentic and that they represent an acute sore stomach for the entourage of government financial Obama more than for the Japanese. In short, pulls air from low blows.

    Luigi Grimaldi
    Source: http://www.liberazione.it/
    14/07/2009

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    • #32
      Re: Let sum it up

      Originally posted by tooppy View Post
      Let start all over again :

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5YxQusWdzU
      Here is the Italian official declaration :
      http://www.agenziadogane.it/wps/wcm/...df?MOD=AJPERES
      http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15505&size=A
      http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15588
      http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15648

      Now if you read this article dated on March 27 2007:

      http://www.reuters.com/article/reute...45129420070327

      you'll find :

      ..... U.S. TIC data show that during the 12 months ending January 2007, Japanese investors bought just $18.2 billion in Treasury coupons, or approximately $1.5 billion a month, a sharp contrast from the 12 months ending January 2005 when Japanese investors purchased $134.5 billion of U.S. government debt, McCarthy noted.....

      These US Treasury Checks have a five years validity which bring us to the 2010 deadline, we are right in.
      To have an example of the validity here is a similar sample :
      http://etleboro.com/documents/copy-title.pdf

      If you put together :
      - that one japanese arrested is Tuneo Yamauchi, brother-in-la of Toshiro Muto, who was until recently Deputy Governor of the Bank of Japan
      - that following the executive order 11110 issue by J.F. Kennedy :
      http://www.scribd.com/doc/3026543/Executive-Order-11110
      the Kennedy's notes could have been issued any time by the Treasury (red serial numbers and mentioned United states of America)
      - that these two men have been liberated within few days, (if fakes they should be in jail, if not the long arm of power is behind)
      - that the figures strangely fit with the 2005 Japanese bonds buys, with five years validity
      - that only the BIS in Switzerland could have recieved these notes
      - that a total blackout is surrounding the story

      the most logical conclusion is these papers aren't fakes and the case should spread all over the medias. The Japanese are trying to get rid off their bond and cash them.
      what's a 'us treasury check'?

      why is the only reference to treasury check callable renewable from the 'safe keeping receipt' doc posted by etleboro?

      who is etleboro? where did they get the 'safe keeping receipt' doc?

      the 'safe keeping receipt' is fake.

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      • #33
        Re: Let sum it up

        Originally posted by metalman View Post
        what's a 'us treasury check'?

        why is the only reference to treasury check callable renewable from the 'safe keeping receipt' doc posted by etleboro?

        who is etleboro? where did they get the 'safe keeping receipt' doc?

        the 'safe keeping receipt' is fake.
        The document has not yet been verified but is intriguing. Recall that the original report by the Italian authorities was of smuggled "Federal reserve bonds." The Fed has never issues bonds, but does of course issue checks. However, evidence is strong that this document is fake. See: Scams Involving the Federal Reserve Name
        Scam Involving Yohannes Riyadi and/or Wilfredo Saurin

        November 2007


        The Federal Reserve is aware of a fraudulent scam involving individuals using the names Yohannes Riyadi and/or Wilfredo Saurin, or persons claiming to be representatives of these two men. In a typical version of this scam, Mr. Riyadi and/or his delegates falsely claim that they have on deposit with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York several U.S. Treasury Checks issued to Mr. Riyadi amounting to billions of dollars.

        The Federal Reserve Bank of New York has been contacted by several brokers and financial institutions worldwide inquiring about the validity of this fraudulent account documentation, which is being offered as collateral for lines of credit or other types of asset based financing. The fraudulent scheme includes multiple documents which purport to have the signatures of various Federal Reserve officials, including Chairman Ben Bernanke.

        In some instances, individuals involved in this fraudulent scheme claim to have met with Federal Reserve officials and claim to have verified that the alleged account is in order. We have also learned that the fraud may include the purchase of certain documents by the introducing brokers.

        If you have information regarding this fraud please contact either Robert Amenta, Special Investigator at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, or Erik Rosenblatt, Senior Special Agent at the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

        Last edited by FRED; 07-26-09, 11:39 PM.
        Ed.

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        • #34
          Re: $134.5 in fake government securities: Case closed, sans tin foil hat

          Fred, what happened to case closed?

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          • #35
            Re: Let sum it up

            that settles that... case still closed.

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            • #36
              Re: $134.5 in fake government securities: Case closed, sans tin foil hat

              Originally posted by cjppjc View Post
              Fred, what happened to case closed?
              For the record, to the best of my recollection, whey you (cjppjc) posted this, the previous post showing the SAFE KEEPING RECEIPT was not marked FRAUDULENT and the specific comment regarding Yohannes Riyadi was not present.

              Subsequently, FRED edited the previous post to note that it was FRAUDULENT and point out why.

              Yet a few minutes later metalman noted "that settles that... case still closed."

              I write the above hoping that what I wrote is accurate, and intending to clarify what would otherwise be a slightly confusing sequence of posts.
              Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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              • #37
                Re: $134.5 in fake government securities: Case closed, sans tin foil hat

                Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
                For the record, to the best of my recollection, whey you (cjppjc) posted this, the previous post showing the SAFE KEEPING RECEIPT was not marked FRAUDULENT and the specific comment regarding Yohannes Riyadi was not present.

                Subsequently, FRED edited the previous post to note that it was FRAUDULENT and point out why.

                Yet a few minutes later metalman noted "that settles that... case still closed."

                I write the above hoping that what I wrote is accurate, and intending to clarify what would otherwise be a slightly confusing sequence of posts.
                Thanks for getting my back. This whole story is just too funny. As I've said before on this thread, nothing about this would surprise me.

                Now I'm off for the first fitting of my new tin foil hat. OMG I'm starting to think like a cow.:eek:

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                • #38
                  Re: Not really near closed !!! What about 180 billions more ?

                  ffice:smarttags" name="PlaceName">ffice:smarttags" name="PlaceType">ffice:smarttags" name="place">ffice:smarttags" name="PlaceName">ffice:smarttags" name="PlaceType">ffice:smarttags" name="place">ffice:smarttags" name="PlaceName">ffice:smarttags" name="PlaceType">ffice:smarttags" name="place"> The story isn’t over, far from it .
                  But first read what Karl Denniger has to say about it :
                  http://market-ticker.denninger.net/a...rer-Bonds.html

                  Look here to :
                  http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2009/...w-it-gets.html

                  Why stop the fun here ! So they decided to go for another round of 180 billions this time .

                  On the 10th of August two philippinos are caught at the Italian airport of Malpensa with 180 billions.
                  Here is the news (brush up your itlalian):
                  http://www.libero-news.it/adnkronos/view/186888

                  Now the Italian authorities are looking into it :
                  http://ilsecoloxix.ilsole24ore.com/p...indagine.shtml

                  This time the two men are arrested.


                  We live a wonderful time

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                  • #39
                    2nd Attempt: U.S. Authorities Probing $100 Billion of Bonds Seized in Italy

                    I thought this should be bumped up into a new thread given the Bloomberg story of a second attempt.

                    Original Thread:
                    http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...light=tin+foil

                    U.S. Authorities Probing $100 Billion of Bonds Seized in Italy



                    By Sonia Sirletti and Elisa Martinuzzi
                    Sept. 18 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Secret Service is examining more than $100 billion of U.S. government bonds confiscated in northern Italy in August, just two months after $134 billion of allegedly fake securities were seized in a nearby town.
                    The Secret Service is analyzing whether the bonds taken in August may be counterfeit, said a spokeswoman for the U.S. embassy in Rome. Italy’s financial police in Varese, north of Milan, arrested two individuals carrying the securities in a briefcase, according to a person involved in the case.
                    The two men currently are in custody as prosecutors in the town of Busto Arsizio carry out their investigation, the person said. The seized notes include securities with face values of $500 million and $1 billion, Italian daily MF reported today, without saying where it got the information.
                    “There must be a well-organized group behind these alleged crimes,” Fabio Polimeni, a Milan lawyer specializing in counterfeiting cases, said.
                    Italian authorities seized U.S. treasuries on June 4 with a face value of more than $134 billion from two Japanese travelers attempting to cross into Switzerland. The two men later disappeared and the case is still under investigation. The U.S. government bonds found in the false bottom of a suitcase carried by the men were fake, a U.S. Treasury spokesman said June 18.
                    “As financial markets become more sophisticated, creative and bigger, we can expect criminal activity to go with it and it’s happening everywhere,” Livia Oglio, a Milan lawyer, said. “The amount seized is phenomenal.”
                    Since the beginning of the year the police at border stations in Italy have seized 1.7 million euros of genuine money and bonds, and have confiscated more than 100 million euros of bonds that have been determined to be false, according to an Italian finance police statement in July.
                    To contact the reporter on this story: Sonia Sirletti in Milan at ssirletti@bloomberg.net
                    Last Updated: September 18, 2009 07:02 EDT
                    hmmm.... criminal element trying to make a quick buck or something larger being dismissed in the media as fakes?

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