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    Just a quick note to recommend the following web site. It correlates interest groups, money, and votes.


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    Re: Summer Reading

    EJ and all,

    Here's a similar site focused on state-level politics:

    www.followthemoney.org.

    I know the executive director, and he's a true believer in the old-fashioned journalistic goals of disclosure and an educated public. Damn good dry fly fisherman too.

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      Re: Summer Reading

      Originally posted by doharra View Post
      EJ and all,

      Here's a similar site focused on state-level politics:

      www.followthemoney.org.

      I know the executive director, and he's a true believer in the old-fashioned journalistic goals of disclosure and an educated public. Damn good dry fly fisherman too.
      Thank you for the pointer to the competing web site. The more the merrier.

      Your not so damn good dry fly fisherman, like my friend Mols,

      Eric

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      • #4
        Re: Summer Reading

        Originally posted by EJ View Post
        Just a quick note to recommend the following web site. It correlates interest groups, money, and votes.


        I usually reference another great site for the latest on the US Government Legislation at Open Congress http://www.opencongress.org

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          Originally posted by seanm123 View Post
          I usually reference another great site for the latest on the US Government Legislation at Open Congress http://www.opencongress.org
          Each of these sites has its strengths and weaknesses. We support them all.

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          • #6
            Re: Summer Reading

            Add Muckety www.muckety.com to your bookmarks EJ.

            "Exploring the paths of power and influence"

            Not considering a run for a seat along with Peter Schiff now are you?

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            • #7
              Re: Summer Reading

              Originally posted by EJ View Post
              Just a quick note to recommend the following web site. It correlates interest groups, money, and votes.

              I like the combined category "Finance/Insur/RealEst". Great site!

              Jimmy

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                Originally posted by jimmygu3 View Post
                I like the combined category "Finance/Insur/RealEst". Great site!

                Jimmy
                Yes, indeed. Add it up. Compare FIRE to other interests. Get the picture?

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                  Re: Summer Reading

                  Originally posted by EJ View Post
                  Yes, indeed. Add it up. Compare FIRE to other interests. Get the picture?
                  Here are the totals for each interest.
                  Agribusiness $ 98,074,948
                  Communic_Electronics $166,253,808
                  Construction $106,296,859
                  Defense $ 45,748,433
                  Education $ 55,931,173
                  Energy_Nat_Resource $103,269,589
                  Finance_Insur_RealEst $505,619,336
                  Health $234,598,993
                  Ideology_Single_Issue $274,013,580
                  Labor $158,104,561
                  Lawyers_Lobbyists $347,415,870
                  Misc_Business $297,782,219
                  Other $294,974,944
                  Transportation $ 88,453,751
                  Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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                    Re: Summer Reading

                    Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
                    Here are the totals for each interest.
                    Agribusiness $ 98,074,948


                    Communic_Electronics $166,253,808


                    Construction $106,296,859


                    Defense $ 45,748,433


                    Education $ 55,931,173


                    Energy_Nat_Resource $103,269,589


                    Finance_Insur_RealEst $505,619,336


                    Health $234,598,993


                    Ideology_Single_Issue $274,013,580


                    Labor $158,104,561


                    Lawyers_Lobbyists $347,415,870


                    Misc_Business $297,782,219


                    Other $294,974,944


                    Transportation $ 88,453,751




                    I think those numbers approach about 2.7B$ representing free speech to influence legislative votes that will be favorable to some special interests. Edit: and 2/7B$ is just the amount that can be identified I expect.

                    What can average people, of which I am one, do as a group that would overcome the financial control by the "oligarchs" (people and corporations)?

                    I do not think an anwer is to write your congressperson.
                    Last edited by Jim Nickerson; 08-11-09, 11:57 PM.
                    Jim 69 y/o

                    "...Texans...the lowest form of white man there is." Robert Duvall, as Al Sieber, in "Geronimo." (see "Location" for examples.)

                    Dedicated to the idea that all people deserve a chance for a healthy productive life. B&M Gates Fdn.

                    Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement. Unknown.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Summer Reading

                      Originally posted by Jim Nickerson View Post
                      I think those numbers approach about 2.7B$ representing free speech to influence legislative votes that will be favorable to some special interests. Edit: and 2/7B$ is just the amount that can be identified I expect.

                      What can average people, of which I am one, do as a group that would overcome the financial control by the "oligarchs" (people and corporations)?

                      I do not think an anwer is to write your congressperson.
                      fire econ is 2x more than any other... duh.

                      wonder why we had a housing bubble... duh.

                      in 2010 vote against anyone who voted in line with a fire econ interest.

                      end of story.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Summer Reading

                        Publicly funded elections would be a major step in the right direction. I don't think I have ever cast a vote that mattered.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Summer Reading

                          Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
                          Here are the totals for each interest.
                          Agribusiness $ 98,074,948

                          Communic_Electronics $166,253,808

                          Construction $106,296,859

                          Defense $ 45,748,433

                          Education $ 55,931,173

                          Energy_Nat_Resource $103,269,589

                          Finance_Insur_RealEst $505,619,336

                          Health $234,598,993

                          Ideology_Single_Issue $274,013,580

                          Labor $158,104,561

                          Lawyers_Lobbyists $347,415,870

                          Misc_Business $297,782,219

                          Other $294,974,944

                          Transportation $ 88,453,751


                          Note to Rex Tillerson: No wonder Congress likes to regularly beat on you, O'Reilly, Mulva and the others. Wake up!

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                            Re: Summer Reading

                            Originally posted by metalman View Post
                            fire econ is 2x more than any other... duh.

                            wonder why we had a housing bubble... duh.

                            in 2010 vote against anyone who voted in line with a fire econ interest.

                            end of story.
                            I'm afraid that would not be the end of the story.

                            Try this story as surely only more example of the ubiquitous bullshit in DC.

                            WASHINGTON -- A controversial House proposal to double a Pentagon request to buy executive jets for use by government officials died in chorus of opposition that started with the press, spread to the public and ultimately included President Barack Obama.

                            The episode, as reported in The Wall Street Journal, offers some insight into the way members of Congress use the budget process to get things they want -- usually in the absence of public uproar.

                            The Air Force had first proposed replacing of its aging fleet of passenger jets, which are used to ferry government officials and members of Congress around the globe.
                            Associated Press Rep. John Murtha made no attempt to hide the funding for the planes.



                            The Air Force has roughly two dozen of the planes based at Andrews Air Force Base outside Washington. Their original request was for $220 million to purchase four planes: one new Gulfstream V and three larger military versions of Boeing Co.'s 737.

                            The request was buried as a relatively small line item in a nearly $640 billion funding request for the Department of Defense for the coming fiscal year.

                            But as the Journal reported last week, the House more than doubled the request to $550 million for a total of eight new passenger planes for use by government VIPs.

                            The origins of the big order stretch back to early April. Lawmakers from Georgia asked Congress to increase the number of passenger jets to include an additional Gulfstream plane. Their reasoning: The Gulfstream V has "transcontinental range, exceptional performance capabilities" and would best support the Air Force, said Democratic Rep. John Barrow, in a statement requesting the extra funds.

                            The Gulfstream planes also are built in Mr. Barrow's district at a Savannah, Ga., plant that employs about 5,000 people.

                            Georgia Democratic Rep. Sanford Bishop posted a similar statement on his Web site, to satisfy a new House rule governing disclosure of earmarks.

                            Continued at http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1250...googlenews_wsj

                            I thought teleconferencing was a time, energy, and money savings technological advance, must not be so.
                            Jim 69 y/o

                            "...Texans...the lowest form of white man there is." Robert Duvall, as Al Sieber, in "Geronimo." (see "Location" for examples.)

                            Dedicated to the idea that all people deserve a chance for a healthy productive life. B&M Gates Fdn.

                            Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement. Unknown.

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                              Re: Summer Reading

                              There was a similar website, where you could track your local congressmen/senator, it even had embedded video of cspan (if I remember correctly) I think it was called government watch or something like that. But the site shut down for some reason...

                              BTW, you can click on each special interest group to see who they contributed the most to...

                              two I liked is charlie rangel: http://maplight.org/map/us/legislator/426 , covered nicely by lawyers and FIRE.

                              And Christopher Dodd, who is on the senate committee on banking. If he does not lose his job next year... wtf... http://maplight.org/map/us/legislator/559 as you can see his top 3 contributors are: Securities and Investment, lawyers and insurance...

                              The site is great just needs to include what bills have been sponsored/voted by the representatives.

                              Here is the top 10 recepients of contributions from commercial banks and bank holding companies, the security brokers and investment companies has the same top 4...:

                              Barack Obama$2,933,830
                              John McCain$1,731,378
                              John Kerry$1,083,230
                              Christopher Dodd$808,094
                              Spencer Bachus$448,048
                              Richard Shelby$366,997
                              John Cornyn$325,842
                              John Boehner$301,095
                              Jeb Hensarling$296,512
                              Mitch McConnell$294,800
                              They have both sides covered...

                              forgot to add that a great book on the subject is The Big Rip Off: http://www.amazon.com/Big-Ripoff-Bus...0080778&sr=8-8

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