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Sapiens
02-08-07, 12:15 PM
Superb and magnificent paper! A must read!



http://www.thetransitioner.org/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Vladimir+Nuri

Vladimir Z. Nuri

Vladimir Z. Nuri has written a landmark text called "Fractional Reserve Banking as Economic Parasitism: A Scientific, Mathematical & Historical Expose, Critique, and Manifesto". This text is probably one of the most recent clear-sighted and visionary work. It is about:


Economic Parasitism?
Thermodynamic approach of money?
Political history of money
Proposals for further research (that will be connected to the projects of TheTransitioner)

This pdf document can be downloaded here (http://www.thetransitioner.org/wiki/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=3&PHPSESSID=dd2629dbaa1545a517778c97f6a7d4d9).

Abstract:
This paper looks at the history of money and its modern form from a scientific and mathematical point of view. The approach here is to emphasize simplicity. A straightforward model and algebraic formula for a large economy analogous to the ideal gas law of thermodynamics is proposed. It may be something like a new F = ma rule of the emerging econophysics field. Some implications of the equation are outlined, derived, and proved. The phenomena of counterfeiting, inflation and deflation are analyzed for interrelations.
Analogies of the economy to an ecosystem or energy system are advanced. The fundamental legitimacy of "expansion of the money supply" in particular is re-examined and challenged. From the hypotheses a major (admittedly radical) conclusion is that the modern international "fractional reserve banking system" is actually equivalent to legalized economic parasitism by private bankers. This is the case because, contrary to conventional wisdom, the proceeds of inflation are not actually spendable by the state. Also possible are forms of "economic warfare" based on the principles. Alternative systems are proposed to remediate this catastrophic flaw.



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Sapiens
04-28-07, 05:42 PM
http://www.colorado.edu/peacestudies/sustainable-economics/debt/archives/msg00692.html

and

http://www.colorado.edu/peacestudies/sustainable-economics/debt/archives/msg00695.html

Why not a discussion in this forum?

I think Dr. Priest's point is that the paper didn't seem particularly
original.

I know you are a mathematician of sorts and we could use your talents.

You're beating a dead horse in your challenge to fractional reserve banking.
Fractional reserve banking per se is not evil. It is moreover
inconceivable that a market based economy could exist without it.

The problem is not fractional reserve banking but the inability to come to
grips with some of its realities.


>From: vznuri@earthlink.net
>To: Hank Monrobey <hank@monrobey.com>, Colorado <debt@csf.colorado.edu>
>CC: vznuri@syzygy.synergy.net
>Subject: Re: fractional reserve banking as economic parasitism
>Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 16:32:39 -0700
>
>hi mr. monrobey
>
>thanks for your enthusiasm over the paper, I'm happy to see
>responses such as yours. at this point I would
>prefer to have a single source for the paper, already located on
>a web page, which has a counter I can monitor. the url again
>
>http://econwpa.wustl.edu/eprints/mac/papers/0203/0203005.abs
>
>please pass on the url to everyone who has some interest.
>however if you would like to set up a discussion conference on one
>of your web sites, that is fine with me. I tend to prefer email
>lists. am still looking for one that I might join on the subject,
>there are a few already out there.
>
>dr. priest hasnt had any criticism of the paper so far, he suggested
>some references I am not familiar with, and by a glitch, he was not
>aware that Griffin is cited heavily in the paper already (possibly there
>may be a glitch with the text search in the pdf viewer brought out by
>the paper format, such that "griffin" doesnt show up in a search,
>I dont know the source or workaround).
>
>as for the adjective "evil" I hesitate to apply it to the economic
>system or those who have erected it, even with full knowledge, & did
>touch on the subject briefly in the essay. I do
>feel the document "silent weapons for quiet wars" represents a kind
>of evil, few are familiar with it but it looks like a smoking gun
>for organized, systematic economic parasitism to me.
>
>unfortunately the assertion that the current fractional reserve
>system is "criminal" is quite problematic; as I wrote in the abstract
>it is "legalized economic parasitism". so, ironically, we could say
>its a crime that its legal.. that kind of paradox is where the parasite
>is quite at home... the final section talking about treason does simply
>reiterate the assertions of mcfadden & trafficant along these lines
>(criminality).
>
>I do believe there is an economic science, only that it is in a very
>crude stage in some ways, say analogous to physics before the discovery of
>F=ma by newton. I do not begrudge the economics nobelists their prizes
>& think it has generally awarded positive advancements from what I know.
>for example stiglitz was honored last year, and he has come out strongly
>against the IMF; I relied on his perspective a lot at the end of
>the paper.
>
>as for "mathematical art" I have created some of the same in the paper
>.. I think its a partial danger for people to go tilting
>at the windmills of mathematics
>in reforming economics. mathematics itself is neutral, and powerful.
>it could be the fire of a dragon-parasite scorching the planet or the
>weapon
>that slays one. what people are objecting to is the misapplication
>of mathematics, which I agree is a big problem, but arguably this
>transcends scientific boundaries, although it may be a more serious
>problem in economics in particular.
>
>as for economics vs banking, yes it is difficult to unravel the
>illegitimate intertwinements..
>
>as for mainstream economists objecting to the fractional reserve
>banking system. they are out there. rothbard & friedman's ideas
>come close. I also ran into herman daly's work after I wrote the
>paper, its highly relevant. & I am in communication with michael
>hudson who coincidentally wrote a whole unpublished chapter that
>sounds strongly like the paper in parts; he relied heavily on zimmer
>& also pinpointed the IMF as "proboscis of the parasite".
>
>good luck with your projects & thanks for your wholehearted endorsement.
>
>
>

Tet
04-28-07, 10:11 PM
Odd, another Russian stating the case for Chartalism, one could almost get the impression that's what the Russians and Chinese are up to.