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by Dr. Michael Hudson

Michael Hudson’s book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0745319890?ie=UTF8&tag=wwwitulipcom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0745319890">Super Imperialism - New Edition: The Origin and Fundamentals of U.S. World Dominance</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=wwwitulipcom-20&l=as2&o=1&a=0745319890" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> is a critique of how the United States exploited foreign economies through IMF and World Bank. Other books by Dr. Hudson include The Myth of Aid (Orbis Books); Global Fracture: The New International Economic Order (Harper & Row)

As an advisor to the White House, State Dept. and Defense Department at the Hudson Institute, and subsequently to the United Nations Institute for Training and Research (UNITAR), he became one of the best known specialists in international finance. He also has consulted for the governments of Canada, Mexico and Russia. (Dr. Hudson's bio is continued at the end of this article.)

Summary
The exponential growth of savings and debt takes the form mainly of loans to finance the purchase of real estate, stocks and bonds. These loans extract interest and amortization charges that divert revenue away from being spent on goods and services. The payment of debt service by the economy’s non-financial sectors interrupts the circular flow that Say’s Law postulates to exist between producers and consumers.
Financial institutions re-lend their interest and other financial inflows as new loans to finance asset purchases. The result is that net savings do not increase for the economy as a whole. Meanwhile, lending out savings helps bid up asset prices, but does not necessarily promote new tangible investment and employment or increase real wages and commodity prices. In fact, new tangible investment and employment decline as investors find it easier to obtain price gains in stocks, bonds and real estate than to make profits by investing in factories and other tangible means of production. The effect is to divert savings and credit away from financing new direct investment, and hence from employing labor to produce more output.

The National Income and Product Accounts (NIPA) measure the circular flow between production, consumption and new investment. Employers earn profits which they invest in capital goods, and they pay their employees who spend their income to buy the goods they produce (Fig. 1).

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Production and consumption represent only part of the economy. Governments levy taxes and user fees, which they spend and sometimes run budget surpluses (the government’s way of saving) that drain income from the economy’s flow of spending. But more often, governments inject spending power by running deficits (financed by running into debt). The NIPA measure these fiscal removals or injections of revenue by taxing and spending (Fig. 2).

A half century ago economists anticipated that rising incomes and living standards would lead to higher savings. The most influential view of the economic future was that of John Maynard Keynes. Addressing the problems of the Great Depression in 1936, his General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money warned that people would save relatively more as their incomes rose. Spending on consumer goods would tail off, slowing the growth of markets, new investment and employment.

This view of the saving function – the propensity to save out of wages and profits – saw saving break the chain of payments simply by not being spent. The modern dynamics of saving – and the debts in which savings are invested – are more complex. Most savings are lent out. Nearly all new investment in capital goods and buildings comes from retained business earnings, not from savings that pass through financial intermediaries. Under these conditions, higher personal saving rates are reflected in higher indebtedness.

Since World War II, in fact, each new business upswing has started with a higher set of debt ratios. A rising proportion of savings find their counterpart more in other peoples’ debts rather than being used to finance new direct investment. The net savings rate has fallen, even though debt ratios and gross savings have increased.

http://www.itulip.com/images/MHF2.jpgTo understand these dynamics it is necessary to view economies as composed of two distinct systems. The largest system is that of land, monopoly rights and financial claims that yield rentier returns in the form of interest, other financial fees, rents and monopoly gains (which can be viewed either as economic rents or super-profits). These returns far overshadow the profits earned on investing in capital goods and employing labor to produce goods and provide actual services. This reflects the fact that the value of rentier property and financial securities far exceeds that of physical capital in the form of factories and machinery, buildings, or research and development.

Keynes was not careful to analyze how the savings functions associated with financial securities and rentier claims – and the property rights backing them as collateral – differed from personal savings functions. Some help, however, is provided by the NIPA, which break out the distinct flow of property and financial income that accrues to the FIRE sector, an acronym for Finance, Insurance and Real Estate.

To fill out the picture from the investor’s vantage point, especially that of FIRE, it is necessary to recognize the increasingly important role played by capital gains rather than current earnings. The economy’s wealthiest layers take their “total returns” primarily in the form of capital gains, not profit, interest or rental income.

No regular measures of capital gains are published, but they can be estimated on the basis of the Federal Reserve Board’s balance-sheet data published in Table Z of its annual Flow-of-Funds statistics on financial assets (stocks, bonds and bank deposits and loans) and tangible assets (land, buildings and capital goods). These statistics show that capital gains and the returns to property and finance – rent, interest and capital gains – far overshadow profits.

This distinction between the property and financial sectors and the rest of the economy is not immediately apparent, however. NIPA statistics follow modern “value-free” economics in conflating all forms of current income (excluding capital gains) into the single category of “earnings.” Interest, rent, insurance and financial fees are treated as payments for current services, not claims by property, credit or monopoly power that find no counterpart in direct outlays.

These forms of revenue are not inherently necessary expenses of production, but are best viewed as being institutional in character. Returns to finance and property may be viewed as transfer payments rather than as actual costs entailed by producing goods and services. This contrast makes the savings and debt functions of these rentier sectors differ from those associated with the wages and profits paid to labor and tangible capital investment (Fig. 3).

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Monetary considerations

Industry and agriculture, transport and power, and similar production and consumption expenditures account for less than 0.1 percent of the economy’s flow of payments. The vast majority of transactions passing through the New York Clearing House and Fedwire are for stocks, bonds, packaged bank loans, options, derivatives and foreign-currency transactions. The entire stock-market value of many high-flying companies now changes hands in a single day, and the average holding time for currency trades has shrunk to just a few minutes.

The value of these financial transactions each day exceeds that of the entire annual U.S. national income. It therefore seems absurd to relate the money supply only to consumer and wholesale prices, excluding asset prices.

Today’s anomalies that need to be explained

Today’s world requires more variables to be analyzed. The (net) savings rate has moved in the opposite direction from what Keynes had anticipated. The NIPA report a zero-savings rate for the economy at large. If the recycled dollar holdings of foreign central banks are excluded, the domestic U.S. savings rate is a negative 2 percent. A time series of the U.S. propensity to save since 1945 shows a steady decline in (net) S/Y.

http://www.itulip.com/images/MHF4.jpgDespite a falling savings rate, however, the economy never has been flusher with savings and credit. The growth of savings, wealth and net worth is less and less the result of new direct investment in tangible capital formation, but rather the product of rising asset prices for real estate, stocks and bonds. In balance-sheet terms, gross savings are soaring while net savings are zero or negative.

This growth in net worth occurs despite the fact that most new saving is offset on the liabilities side of the balance sheet by growth in debt. The rise of net worth is the result of savings being lent to borrowers who bid up asset prices by using new loans and credit to buy property and securities, that is, wealth and financial claims on wealth.

These features of today’s economy appear to be an anomaly as compared to the formulae that Keynes traced out in 1936. Today’s economy is best seen as a financial bubble, just the opposite of the deflationary Great Depression described by Keynes. Credit – and hence, debt – is being created to inflate the bubble rather than to finance direct capital formation. In this respect the banking and financial systems have become dysfunctional.

Monetary expansion and prices in the commodity and asset markets move asymmetrically. Today’s asset-price inflation goes hand in hand with commodity-price stagnation and a deflation of labor’s spending power. Upon closer examination this inverse relationship is not an anomaly. But the phenomenon shows that the savings problem has become more serious than Keynes feared, for reasons that he had little reason to discuss seventy years ago.

For one thing, the volume of savings compounds by being recycled into the creation of new interest-bearing debt as savers or financial institutions use their accrual of income, dividends and capital gains to buy more securities, make more loans or buy property rather than to spend this revenue on current output. The growing debt overhead – and the savings that form the balance-sheet counterpart to this debt – bears interest charges that divert income to debt service rather than being available for spending on consumption and direct investment.

The FIRE sector in relation to the rest of the economy

The institutions that distinguish one national economy from another are the property and financial institutions that steer saving and investment, and the public tax policies that shape markets. These policies determine the character of the FIRE sector. The largest and defining features of any economy are those of the property and financial sector, whose rent, interest, monopoly revenue and “capital” gains (most of which are real-estate gains) rise relative to overall national income.

Instead of examining these contrasting financial and fiscal policies, most economics texts concentrate on abstract technological production and consumption dimension of economic life. It is as if the property and financial dimension – tangible wealth and financial claims on property and income – lie somewhere on the far side of the moon, invisible to earth or at least wrapped in a cloak of invisibility.

When Keynes viewed individuals as saving a portion of the income they earned, he defined (S) as a function of income (Y) multiplied by the marginal propensity to save (mps, or simply s), so that S = sY. Keynes thus derived the savings function s = S/Y for economies as a whole.

This formula does not acknowledge that financial institutions tend to save all their income. Furthermore, over time a rising proportion of this inflow of interest, dividends and rent is plowed back into new loans rather than invested in tangible capital formation.

Keynes recognized that wealthy individuals save a higher portion of their income as they earn more. He feared that as economies grew richer over time, the propensity to save would rise. But he did not describe corporate financial institutions as having a distinct propensity of their own to save all their interest and dividend receipts.

Today we can see that the problem with saving is not simply that it is “non-spending.” A rising proportion of savings are lent out or invested in loans and securities, dividend-yielding stocks and rent-yielding properties, to become interest-bearing debts owed by the economy at large. These savings expand of their own accord as their interest receipts are recycled into new loans and other income-yielding assets, growing in an exponentially rising curve. This exponentially rising curve is that of compound interest, so that St = St-1(1+i), where i represents the rate of interest. Meanwhile, the growth of debt grows pari passu, as Keynes would have put it.

It thus is helpful to distinguish between the propensity to save (1) by labor and industrial firms out of income earned by producing goods and services, and (2) by the FIRE sector out of debt service and rental charges. Drawing this distinction requires that the economy itself be viewed as a combination of two separate parts, by separating the FIRE sector from the rest of the economy. I refer to these two sectors as (1) the production and consumption economy comprising fixed capital and labor, and (2) the economically larger property and financial sector receiving rentier income (defined to include financial “service” fees).

Although net saving does not increase in such cases, the volume of loanable funds expands. These funds are built up as interest, dividends and rents accrue to owners of securities and property. To the extent that these revenues accrue to large financial institutions – insurance companies, pension and mutual funds – the propensity to save such returns is nearly 100 percent. To be sure, bankers pay interest to their depositors while insurance and pension funds pay their policy holders. However, most of these interest and dividend accruals are left in accounts to accumulate. The result is an exponentially rising curve of savings at compound interest.

The idea of a propensity to consume is appropriate only for consumer income, not that of the financial, insurance and real estate (FIRE) sectors. Consumers, especially retirees, do indeed consume some part of their rentier income, but this is not true of institutional investors. Keynes recognized that the wealthiest income brackets have a high propensity to save, while less affluent brackets have a lower propensity. Today, the wealthiest 10 percent of the population holds most of the savings in every economy. The bottom 90 percent tend to be net debtors rather than net savers in today’s highly financialized economies of North America and Europe.

Additional saving is created when banks create credit. Most finds its counterpart in the new debts that borrowers owe, so that the net saving rate is not affected. Keynes concerned himself almost entirely with net saving, not gross savings and their counterpart debt.

When Keynes defined saving as equal to investment, he did not emphasize the distinction between direct investment in tangible capital goods and loans that became the debts of the economy’s non-financial sectors. Failure to draw this distinction led to an ambiguity between gross or net saving. National income accounts define saving net of the growth in debt, so that no increase in net saving occurs when savings are lent out.

This condition has become more and more the case for the U.S. economy in recent decades. Today’s propensity to save is less than zero as the economy is running into debt faster than it is building up new savings. Keynes did not address this possibility, and indeed it was not a pressing concern back in 1936 when he wrote his General Theory.

Modern national income accounts also combine the wages and profits that labor and industry earn with the interest and rent that finance and property receive. The basic idea is that providing land, the radio spectrum, subsoil minerals and even monopoly goods supplies a “service” alongside the goods and services produced by labor and capital goods. But it is equally possible to view finance and property not as “factors of production” producing services that earn interest, financial fees and rent, but as receiving transfer payments or what Henry George called “value from obligation.” This distinction enables the classical distinction between “earned” and “unearned” income to be preserved in a way that I believe Keynes would have appreciated in view of his call for “euthanasia of the rentier.”

Nearly all new fixed capital formation is financed out of retained business earnings, not out of bank borrowing. Banks finance sales, foreign trade, consumer debt and the purchase of property already in place, but hardly ever have they taken the risk of financing new direct investment. Their time horizon is short-term, not long-term.

This chapter proposes a model to integrate the analysis of asset-price inflation with debt deflation and Say’s Law. Viewing savings and debt in their institutional context, it relates the behavior of banks and institutional investors to the dynamics of asset-price inflation and debt deflation. A central theme is that most lending and credit creation are directed into the capital markets via borrowers who buy property or financial securities. As the economy’s assets are loaded down with debt and its interest charges, this credit growth extracts interest payments that divert revenue away from current demand for goods and services. That is why asset-price inflation usually involves debt deflation. The deflationary effect may be mitigated by lowering interest rates, as occurred in the United States during 1994-2004. The debt/savings overhead can rise without extracting a higher flow of interest payments as interest rates approach their nadir (about 1 percent today).

Keynes viewed saving as causing insufficient market demand to provide full employment. The long-term threat seemed to be that as economies grew richer, people would save more, disrupting the circular flow of spending between producers and their employees as consumers. What was not emphasized was that as savings were recycled into loans, economies would polarize between creditors and debtors.

Today the net savings rate has fallen to zero, and the major factor impairing effective demand is the diversion of revenue to service the economy’s debt overhead. Paying interest and principal reduces the disposable income that debtors have available to spend on goods and services, while the financial institutions that receive this revenue do not spend it on goods and services. They lend out their receipts to enable the buyers to purchase assets that already exist.

The National Income and Product Accounts (NIPA) define the amortization of debt principal as saving. Most of these repayments are lent out to new borrowers, including corporate business whose balance sheets have reached what Hyman Minsky called the Ponzi stage of fragility – the point at which the debt overhead is carried by debtors borrowing the interest charges that are growing exponentially. In this respect “debts cause saving.”

Today’s problem of inadequate consumer demand and capital investment lies on the liabilities (debt) side of the balance sheet, not on the asset (saving) side. Keynes anticipated that as economies grew and incomes rose, a rising proportion of S/Y would reduce consumption, leading to overproduction if employers did not cut back their own direct investment. This line of thought reflected the psychological theorizing of British marginal utility analysis rather than a financial view of the dynamics that determined the buildup of savings.

Keynes’s discussion of savings led him to re-examine Say’s Law, which described circular flow of spending between producers and consumers. Under normal conditions producers would hire workers, who would spend their wages on buying what they produced. This was the basic meaning of the phrase “supply creates its own demand.” But savings threatened to interrupt this circular flow by diverting the purchasing power of consumers away from the demand for goods and services, and that of employers away from the purchase of capital goods.

Keynes found saving to be the main culprit for the economic slow-down of the Great Depression on the ground that it led to reduced market demand, deterring new direct investment and hence slowing the growth of employment. But in today’s U.S.-centered bubble economy the problem has become more complicated. To the extent that savings are lent out (rather than invested out of retained earnings to purchase capital goods, erect buildings and create other tangible means of production), they divert future income away from consumption and investment to pay debt service. In this respect the growth of savings in financial form (that is, in ways other than new direct capital formation) adds to the debt overhead and hence contributes to debt deflation. This is what occurs with nearly all the savings intermediated and lent out or reinvested by the banks, insurance companies and other financial institutions.

Keynes did not devote much attention to the accrual of interest on past savings. His General Theory was ambiguous with regard to the specific forms that savings might take. They were identified simply as investment, so that on the macroeconomic plane, S = I. The implication by many Keynesians today is that savings actually cause investment. The reality is that savings not invested directly in new means of production were invested indirectly in stocks, bonds and real estate. Investment in securities and property already in existence had no positive employment effects. But there was not much growth in either borrowing or this kind of indirect investment back when the General Theory was published. The tendency was for savings to sit idle, as did much of the labor force.

The self-expanding growth of savings through their accrual of interest

The financial system exists in a symbiosis with the “real” economy. Each system has its own set of growth dynamics. Financial systems tend to grow exponentially at compound interest. The cumulative value of savings grows through a dynamic that Keynes had little reason to analyze in the 1930s – what Richard Price described as the “geometric” growth of a penny invested at 5 percent at the time of Jesus’s birth, growing to a solid sphere of gold extending from the Sun out beyond the orbit of Jupiter by his day (1776). He contrasted this “geometric” growth of savings invested at compound interest to the merely “arithmetic” growth of a similar sum invested at simple interest. This was the metaphor that Malthus adopted to describe the growth of human populations in contrast to the means of subsistence.

Many people saved money back in the time of Jesus. But nobody has obtained savings amounting to anywhere near a solid sphere of gold. The reason is that savings that are invested in debt tend to stifle economies, causing downturns that wipe out the debts and savings together in a convulsion of bankruptcy. This was what happened to the Roman Empire, and on a smaller scale it has characterized business cycles for the past two centuries. Yet this dynamic rarely has been related to the bankruptcy phenomenon although it is a key factor countering the growth of savings.

Economies do grow faster than “arithmetically,” but not “geometrically.” Their typical growth pattern is that of an S-curve, tapering off over the course of the business cycle. The exponential growth of savings and debts thus tends chronically to exceed that of the “real” economy. Unless interest rates decline, the debt burden will divert income away from spending on goods and services, turning the economy downward (Fig. 5 & Fig. 6).

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Fig. 5. How the Rise in Debt Overhead Slows Down the Business Cycle


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The General Theory recognized saving as arising out of current income, not as growing through the compounding of interest, doubling and redoubling at compound interest by their own inertia. They accrue interest independently of the course of incomes when invested in bonds or left in savings accounts, as well as accruing dividends if invested in stocks, or rental income if invested in property. This is especially true of “forced savings” in the form of paycheck withholding for Social Security, pension and retirement accounts, along with insurance policies segregated in a way that makes them unavailable for current spending.

Not being limited by the course of income or the ability to pay, the exponential growth of savings tends to exceed growth of the real economy. This is what occurs when economies are loaded down with debts, which could equally well be thought of as the savings overhead that is lent out. Rising savings on the asset side of the balance sheet connote a rising debt overhead on the liabilities side. In this case saving does not necessarily reflect an increase of productive powers and the means of production, nor does it tend to employ labor. Rather, the debt service that results from lending out savings tends to shrink markets and employment.

It should be noted that while the financial sector represents itself as providing credit to consumers and producers, it also absorbs income by charging interest, in amounts that are as large as the entire loan principal every doubling period – seven years at 10 percent interest, 13 years at 5 percent. Ultimately the financial sector extracts revenue from the economy. That is why it is in business, after all: to “make money from money.”

Money cannot be made from money, of course. It is itself sterile, as Aristotle noted long ago. But it can charge interest from the rest of the economy that does perform the work. Levying interest, rent and other property and financial charges is not to be confused with making money through labor or capital investment. The perception of classical economics that the property and financial system is different has been lost in today’s economic thought.

The growth of net worth through capital gains

The cumulative volume of savings also grows through a dynamic that Keynes had little reason to analyze in the 1930s: capital gains. Property and financial securities tend to appreciate in price over time. The main cause of this price appreciation is that the physical volume of assets grows slowly, while the financial volume of loanable funds grows exponentially.

Let us return for a moment to Richard Price’s example of a penny saved at the time of Jesus being worth a sphere of gold extending from the sun out to Jupiter. Few investors buy gold, as it does not yield an income. The largest investment – and the most heavily debt-financed asset these days – is land. More credit does not expand the volume of land, which is fixed, but it does raise its market price. A rising volume of savings is channeled to buy a fixed supply of land. The financial system thus creates capital gains as the finite volume of property and supply of buildings and financial securities expands more slowly than the potentially infinite volume of loanable funds.

Keynes did not anticipate that savings would be channeled in a way that bid up asset prices for securities and property without funding tangible capital formation. In the 1930s net worth was built up mainly by saving, not by asset-price inflation such as is occurring today. In traditional Keynesian terms, revenue or credit spent on buying property in place represented hoarding, not investment.

Homeowners and investors imagine themselves growing richer as prices rise for their assets. Their net worth rises without their having to save. However, this rise tends to require more income set aside to pay debt service on the loans taken out to buy their property. Credit lent out in this way does not increase consumption and direct investment. It creates debts whose carrying charges shrink markets. Savings and debts rise together, so that there is no increase in net saving.

New saving does occur as financial institutions recycle the receipts of debt service into new loans, whose carrying charges absorb yet more future income. The result is that gross savings (and hence, indebtedness) rise relative to national income. Stated another way, saving for many homeowners takes the form of paying off their mortgages. This is not the same thing as hoarding (in Keynes’s sense), but it plays much the same function, as it is not available for spending on current output.

As savings rise and are lent out, debt service absorbs more income. But the net economic surplus available to service these savings – by paying interest and dividends on the debts and securities in which they are invested – tends not to keep pace with their stipulated debt service. This debt problem therefore plays the deflationary economic role that Keynes attributed to savings.

How asset-price inflation aggravates economic polarization

Keynes favored inflation as eroding the burden of debt. Calling for “euthanasia of the rentier,” he saw inflation as the line of least political resistance to wiping out the economy’s debt burden. His idea was that inflation would leave more income available for consumption and for new direct investment. But asset-price inflation works in a different way. Instead of eroding the purchasing power of wealth relative to commodities and labor, it increases property prices without increasing consumer prices or wages. At least this has been the pattern since 1980. Wealth disparities have increased even more than have disparities among income brackets. The net worth for the wealthiest 10 or 20 percent of the population has soared, while the rest of the economy has fallen more deeply into debt and many of its gains have turned out to be short-term.

Keynes recognized that rich and poor income and wealth brackets had differing marginal propensities to save. But today’s financial polarization has gone beyond anything he anticipated, or what anyone else anticipated back in the 1930s, or for that matter even in the 1950s.

Long before the General Theory, economists recognized that wealthy people did not expand their consumption in keeping with their income growth. The image of widows and orphans living off their interest was relevant only for a small part of the economy. Rentiers always have tended to save their income and reinvest it in the financial and property markets. This occurs also with savings deposits, which banks lend out or invest directly in financial securities. Most of the interest and dividends credited to savers thus is left to grow by being lent out or plowed back into indirect securities and property investment, increasing asset prices.

The ability to get an easy ride from the resulting asset-price inflation – coupled with an easy access to credit and favorable tax treatment – prompts investors to take their returns in the form of capital gains rather than current income. In real estate, the economy’s largest sector, property owners use their rental income to pay interest on the credit borrowed to buy properties, leaving no taxable earnings at all. The same phenomenon characterizes the corporate sector, where equity has been retired for bonds and bank loans since 1980. Ambitious CEOs, managers of privatized public enterprises and corporate raiders have bought entire companies with debt-financed leveraged buyouts. Interest charges have absorbed corporate earnings, leaving little remaining for new capital investment. The name of the game has become capital gains, which have been spurred more by downsizing and outsourcing than by new corporate hiring.

Prices for property, stock, and bonds have soared relative to wages, forcing home buyers to spend a rising multiple of their annual incomes to buy housing. Also rising has been the cost of acquiring companies relative to corporate profits as price/earnings ratios increase.

Capital gains make the inequality of wealth and property more extreme than income inequality. The wealthiest layer of the population derives its power from capital gains, while using its income to pay interest – as long as interest rates are less than the rate of asset-price inflation. The ratio of wealth and property has risen relative to the value of goods and services, wages and profits, while the debt overhead has grown proportionally.

Does asset-price inflation “crowd out” new direct investment?

The FIRE sector has been expanding at the expense of the “real” economy. It drains revenue in the form of interest, rental income and monopoly profits, which are paid out increasingly as interest and financial fees. This triggers a fresh cycle of saving and re-lending by the FIRE sector itself, not so much by the rest of the economy. The more interest accrues in the hands of creditors, the faster their supply of loanable funds increases, thanks to the “magic of compound interest.” This revenue is lent out and accrues new interest (“interest on interest”), which is recycled into yet new loans.

This growth of savings and loanable funds in the hands of financial institutions is lent out mainly to buy property in place and financial securities, not to fund tangible capital formation. This financial dynamic spurs asset-price inflation, which in turn reduces the incentive to invest directly in capital goods, because it is easier to make capital gains than to earn profits.

These developments have prompted investors to seek “total returns” – capital gains plus profits or earnings – rather than earnings alone. Under Federal Reserve Board Chairman Alan Greenspan as “Bubble Maestro” in the 1990s, stock prices for dot.com and internet companies soared without a foundation in earnings or dividend-paying ability. Balance-sheet maneuvering was decoupled from tangible investment in the “real” economy. Companies such as Enron prided themselves in not having any tangible assets at all, just a balance sheet of speculative contracts. People began to ask whether wealth could go on increasing in this way ad infinitum.

Keynes’s analysis implied that the income “multiplier” (Y/S, or 1/mps) would increase as prosperity increased and people consumed a smaller portion of their income. What was being multiplied, however, was not national income – wages, profits and other earned income – but the volume of credit and hence the pace of capital gains in the asset markets.

Tax policy and financial bubbles

Unlike the industrial sector, real estate does not report a profit – and hence, pays no income taxes. Property owners do pay state and local real estate taxes, to be sure, but they have been joined by the financial and insurance lobbies to shift local government budgets away from the land and onto the shoulders of labor, through income taxes, sales taxes and various user fees for municipal services hitherto provided as part of the basic economic needs and infrastructure.

Although land does not depreciate – that is, wear out and become obsolete – by far the bulk of depreciation tax credits are taken by the real estate sector. This is because the economic theory underlying tax obligations has become essentially fictitious. Each time a property is sold, the building is assumed to increase in value, rather than the land’s site value generating the gain.

Nothing like this could happen in industry. Machinery wears out and becomes obsolete. (Think of computers and word processors bought a decade ago, or even three years ago.) Technological progress reduces the value of physical capital in place. But the prosperity that progress brings increases the market price of land.

In calling for “euthanasia of the rentier” Keynes pointed to the desirability of preventing the diversion of income into the purchase of securities and property already in place. He hoped to restructure the stock market and financial system so as to direct savings and credit into tangible capital formation rather than speculation. He deplored the waste of human intelligence devoted merely to transferring property ownership rather than creating new means of production.

Today’s financial markets have evolved in just the opposite direction from that advocated by Keynes. New savings and credit are channeled into loans to satisfy the rush to buy real estate, stocks and bonds for speculative purposes rather than into the funding of new direct investment and employment. Matters are aggravated by the fact that financial gains are taxed at a lower rate, thanks to the growing power of the financial sector’s political lobbies. This prompts companies to use their revenue and go into debt to buy other companies (mergers and acquisitions) or real estate rather than to expand their means of production.

Going into debt to buy assets with borrowed funds experienced a quantum leap in the 1980s with the practice of financing leveraged buyouts with high-interest “junk” bonds. The process got underway when interest rates were still hovering near their all-time high of 20 percent in late 1980 and early 1981. Corporate raiding was led by the investment banking house of Drexel Burnham and its law firm, Skadden Arps. Their predatory activities required a loosening of America’s racketeering (RICO) laws to make it legal to borrow funds to take over companies and repay creditors by emptying out their corporate treasuries and “overfunded” pension plans. New York’s laws of fraudulent conveyance also had to be modified.

Tax laws promoted this debt leveraging. Interest was allowed to be counted as a tax-deductible expense, encouraging leveraged buyouts rather than equity financing or funding out of retained earnings. Depreciation of buildings and other assets was permitted to occur repeatedly, whenever a property was sold. This favored the real estate sector by making absentee-owned buildings and other commercial properties virtually exempt from the income tax. To top matters off, capital gains tax rates were reduced below taxes on the profits earned by direct investment. This diverted savings to fuel asset-price inflation. By the 1990s the process had become a self-feeding dynamic. The more prices rose for stocks and real estate, the more mortgage borrowing rose for homes and other property, while corporate borrowing soared for mergers and acquisition.

Meanwhile, the more gains being made off the bubble, the more powerful its beneficiaries grew. They turned their economic power into political power to lower taxes and deregulate speculative finance – along with fraud, corrupt accounting practices and the use of offshore tax-avoidance enclaves – even further. This caused federal, state and local budget deficits while shifting the tax burden onto labor and industrial income. Markets shrank as a result of the fiscal drain as well as the financial debt overhead.

Abuses of arrogance and outright fraud occurred in what became a golden age for Enron, WorldCom and other “high flyers” akin to the S&L scandals of the mid-1980s. But free-market monetarism draws no distinction between tangible direct investment and purely financial gain-seeking. Opposing government regulation to favor any given way of recycling savings as compared to any other way, the value-free ethic of our times holds that making money is inherently productive regardless of how it is made. “Free-market fundamentalism” came to shape neoliberal tax policy in a way that favored finance, not industry or labor.

Can economies inflate their way out of debt?

Only a limited repertory of opportunities for profitable new direct investment exists at any given point in time. The exponential growth in savings tends to outstrip these opportunities, and hence is lent out. This lending – and its mirror image, borrowing – may become self-justifying at least for a time to the extent that it bids up asset prices. Homebuyers and investors feel that it pays them to go into debt to buy property, and this is viewed as “prosperity,” although it is primarily financial rather than industrial in character.

About 70 percent of bank loans in the United States and Britain take the form of real estate mortgages. Most new savings and credit creation thus enables borrowers to bid up the price of homes and office buildings. The effect is to increase the price that consumers must pay to obtain housing, as new construction loans account for only a small proportion of mortgage lending. Over-extended families become “house-poor” as rising financial charges for housing diverts income away from being spent on new goods and services, “crowding out” consumer spending and business investment.

Governments may try to mitigate the inflation of housing prices by raising interest rates. But this will increase the carrying charges for borrowers with floating-rate mortgages, as well as debtors throughout the economy. (Also, as Britain discovered in spring 2004, the increase in interest rates also raises the currency exchange rate, making its exporters less competitive in world markets.) For fixed-rate mortgages, higher interest rates may squeeze the banks, leading to losses in their portfolio values and prompting calls for the government to bail out losers (at least depositors, if not to rescue S&Ls and commercial banks).

Perception of this problem leads central bankers not to raise interest rates and take the blame for destroying financial prosperity by pricking the bubble. Instead, they try to keep it from bursting. This can be done only by inflating it all the more. So the process escalates.

Balance sheets improve as the pace of capital gains outstrips the rate of interest. Debt service can be paid out of rising asset values, either by selling off assets or by borrowing against the higher asset prices as collateral. The problem occurs when current income no longer can carry the interest charges. The financial sector absorbs more income as debt service than it supplies in the form of new credit. Asset prices turn down – but the debts remain on the books. This has been Japan’s condition since its bubble peaked in 1990. It may result in “negative equity” for the most highly leveraged mortgage borrowers in the real estate sector, followed by debt-ridden companies.

When interest charges exceed rental income, commercial borrowers hesitate to use their own money or other income to keep current on their debts. The limited liability laws let them walk away from their losses if markets are deflated, leaving banks, insurance companies, pension funds and other financial institutions to absorb the loss. Sell-offs of these properties to raise cash would accelerate the plunge in asset prices, leaving balance sheets “hollowed out.”

Savings do not appear as the villain in such periods. The zero net savings rate has concealed the fact that gross savings have been relent to create a corresponding growth in debt. America’s national debt quadrupled during the 12-year Reagan-Bush administration (1981-93). This increase in debt was facilitated by reducing interest rates by enough so that the unprecedented increase in credit rose without extracting more interest from many properties.

The natural limit to this process was reached in 2004 when the Federal Reserve reduced its discount rate to only 1 percent. Once rates hit this nadir, further growth in debt threatened to be reflected directly in draining amortization and interest payments away from spending on goods and services, slowing the economy accordingly. Further debt growth would require a rising proportion of disposable personal income to be spent on debt service.

How long can bubbles keep expanding?

The potential credit supply is limited only by the market price of all existing property and securities. The process is open-ended, as each new credit creation inflates the market value of assets that can be pledged as collateral for new loans.

Until bubbles burst, they benefit investors who borrow money to buy assets that are rising in price. Running into debt becomes the preferred way to make money, rather than the traditional first step toward losing the homestead. The motto of modern real estate investors is that “rent is for paying interest,” and this also applies to corporate raiders who use the earnings of companies bought on credit to repay their bankers and bondholders. What real estate investors and corporate financial officers are after is capital gains.

There is no inherent link with making new direct investment. Indeed, the after-tax return from asset-price inflation exceeds that which can be made by investing to create profits. Retirees, widows and orphans do best by living off capital gains, selling part of their growing portfolios rather than seeking a flow of interest, dividends and rental income. The idea begins to spread that people can live off capital gains in an economy whose incomes are not growing.

Asset-price inflation would be a rational long-term policy if economies could inflate their way out of debt via capital gains. The solution to debt would be to create yet more debt to finance yet more asset-price inflation. This dynamic is more likely to create debt deflation than commodity-price inflation, however. It is true that a consumer “wealth effect” occurs when homeowners refinance their mortgages by taking new “home equity” loans to spend on living, or at least to pay down their credit-card debt so as to lower the monthly diversion of income for debt service. If this were to lead to a general inflation, interest rates would rise, prompting investors to shift out of stocks into bonds. Foreign investors and speculators bail out, accelerating the price decline. This threatens retirement funds, insurance companies and banks with capital losses that erode their ability to meet their commitments.

The more likely constraint comes from asset-price inflation itself as price/earnings ratios rise. Interest rates and other returns slow, making it difficult for pension plans and insurance companies to earn the projected returns needed to pay retirees. In any event, asset sales exceed purchases as the proportion of retirees to employees grows, causing stock and bond prices to decline. Pension funds must sell more stocks and bonds – or employers must set aside more of their revenue for this purpose, in which case their ability to pay dividends is reduced.

Asset-price inflation reaches its limit when interest charges absorb the entire flow of earnings. Debt-financed bubbles remove more purchasing power from the “bottom 90 percent” of the population than they supply. Debt spurs rising housing prices but reduces consumer demand as a result of the need to service mortgages. Likewise, financing for leveraged buyouts, mergers and acquisitions may increase stock prices, but the interest charges absorb corporate earnings and “crowd out” new direct investment and employment.

The drive for capital gains thus complicates the traditional macroeconomic Keynesian categories. Although these gains are not included in the national income statistics, they have become the key to analyzing how asset-price inflation leads to debt deflation of the “real” economy. One thus may ask what sphere of the economy is more “real” and powerful: that of tangible production and consumption, or the financial sector which is wrapped around it.

Can the debt and savings overhead be supported indefinitely?

Richard Price’s illustration of the seemingly magical powers of compound interest is a reminder that many people saved pennies (and much more) at the time of Jesus, and long before that, but nobody yet has obtained an expanding globe of gold. The reason is that savings have been wiped out repeatedly in waves of bankruptcy.

The reason is clear enough. When savings, lending and “indirect” financial investment grow by compound interest in the absence of new tangible investment, something must give. The superstructure of debt must be brought back into a relationship with the ability to pay.

Financial crashes occur much more quickly than the long buildup. This is what produces a ratchet pattern for business cycles – a gradual upsweep and sudden collapse of financial and property prices, leaving economies debt-ridden. Many debts are wiped out, to be sure, along with the savings that have been invested in bad loans – unless the government bails out savers at taxpayer expense.

Financial crises are not resolved simply by price adjustments. Almost all crises involve government intervention, solving matters politically. As the financial and property sectors gain political power relative to the increasingly indebted production and consumption sectors, their lobbies succeed in lowering tax rates on rentier income relative to taxes on wages and profits. Tax rates on capital gains have been slashed below those on “earned” wages and profits, whereas the two rates were equal when America’s income-tax laws first were introduced.

Financial lobbies also have gotten law-makers to adopt the “moral hazard” policy of guaranteeing savings. Debtors still may go bankrupt, but savings are to be kept intact by making taxpayers liable to the economy’s savers. Ever since the collapse of the Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corporation (FSLIC) in the late 1980s a political fight has loomed over just whose savings are to be rescued. Unfortunately, the principle at work is that of “Big fish eat little fish.” Small savers are sacrificed to the wealthiest savers and institutional investors.

The mathematics of compound interest dictates that such public guarantees to preserve savings cannot succeed in the long run. Financial savings and debts tend to grow at exponential rates while economies grow only by S curves, causing strains that cannot be supported as credit is used to buy assets rather than to invest in capital goods or buildings.

Financial strains become further politicized as large institutions and the “upper 10 percent” of the population account for nearly all the net saving, which is lent out to the “bottom 90 percent” and to industry. The balance-sheet position of the wealthiest layer increases as long as capital gains exceed the buildup of debt. The bottom 90 percent also benefit for a while during the early and middle stages of the financial bubble. Workers are invited to think of themselves as finance-capitalists-in-miniature rather than as employees being downsized and outsourced. But much of what they may gain in the rising market value of their homes (for the two-thirds of the U.S. and British populations that are homeowners) is offset by the debt deflation that bleeds the production-and-consumption economy.

Throughout history societies that have polarized between creditors and debtors have not survived well. Rome ended in a convulsion of debt foreclosure, monopolization of the land and tax shifts that reduced most of the population to clientage. Third-world countries today are being stripped of their public domain and public enterprises by the international debt buildup, while industry and real estate in the creditor nations themselves are becoming debt-ridden.

Today’s bubble economy is seeing interest charges expand to absorb profits and rental income, leading to slower domestic direct investment and employment. Much as classical economists believed that rent would expand to absorb the entire economic surplus, it now appears that interest-bearing debt will play this role.

* “Saving, Asset-Price Inflation, and Debt-Induced Deflation,” in L. Randall Wray and Matthew Forstater, eds., Money, Financial Instability and Stabilization Policy (Edward Elgar, 2006):104-24. Dr. Hudson is Distinguished Research Professor, Department of Economics, University of Missouri at Kansas City (UMKC). E -mail address: michael.hudson@earthlink.net, or mh@michael-hudson.com.

Dr. Hudson's bio, continued...

Dr. Hudson has published a textbook reviewing the historical development of international trade and investment theory, Trade, Development and Foreign Debt (Pluto Press, 1993, two volumes). This history is based on the courses in international economics he taught at the New School for Social Research, Graduate Faculty in 1969-72.

In conjunction with the Peabody Museum at Harvard, Dr. Hudson has headed an archaeological research team on the origins of private property, debt and real estate.

Dr. Hudson is former balance-of-payments economist for the Chase Manhattan Bank and Arthur Anderson. In 1989 he organized the world’s first third world debt fund for Scudder Stevens & Clark (an offshore fund). He continues to conduct statistical research for financial and non-profit institutions, most recently for the Robert Schalkenbach Foundation and the Levy Economics Institute.

Michael Hudson is president of the Institute for the Study of Long-term Economic Trends (ISLET) in New York and London. Among his books on the politics of international finance are Super-Imperialism: The Economic Strategy of American Empire (Holt Rinehart, 1972), and Global Fracture: The New International Economic Order (Harper & Row, 1979). He formerly taught international economics at the New School for Social Research, Graduate Faculty (1969-72), and has traced the development of international trade and financial theory in Trade, Development and Foreign Debt (Pluto Press, 1993. He is editor of the ISLET assyriological colloquia on Debt and Economic Renewal in the Ancient Near East (CDL Press, 2002), Urbanization and Land Use in the Ancient Near East ((Harvard: Peabody Museum, 1999), and Privatization in the Ancient Near East and Classical Antiquity (Harvard 1996).

In 1984 Dr. Hudson joined Harvard’s Peabody Museum to design a program in the financial origins of civilization. He has edited three colloquia in this program: Privatization in the Ancient Near East and Classical Antiquity (1996), Urbanization and Land Ownership in the Ancient Near East (1999) and Debt and Economic Renewal in the Ancient Near East (2002). A fourth volume on the Origins of Money and Account-Keeping in the Ancient Near East is in preparation.

Michael Hudson is a Wall Street financial analyst and Distinguished Research Professor of Economics at the University of Missouri (Kansas City). He has written or edited over ten books on international finance, economic history and the history of economic thought, and has been an economic advisor to the U.S., Canadian, Mexican and other governments and United Nations agencies, as well as to international corporations and money managers. He is president of the Institute for the Study of Long-term Economic Trends (ISLET). His books have been translated into Japanese, Spanish and Russian.

1. Keynes noted that Malthus pointed out that landlords helped contribute to aggregate demand by spending their rental income on hiring servants. But banks lend to service producers and other labor, increasing the volume of debt.
2. I review how economists have treated this phenomenon in “The Mathematical Economics of Compound Interest: A Four-Thousand Year Overview,” Journal of Economic Studies 27 (2000):344-363.

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grapejelly
02-05-07, 06:19 AM
I was explaining this essay to my wife last night -- which forced me to think it through a bit more.

One significant nit I will pick with it is its confusing use of the term "savings". There are probably three definitions for "savings" used, and they contradict one another.

He is doing his part to confuse the issue, brothers with people like Bernanke and their theory of "global excess savings."

To clear things up I would prefer to hew to the classic definition of savings = under consumption.

So with that definition, let me summarize my takeaway here from this exceedingly important piece. I will try to avoid jargon

What I think Dr. Hudson is saying is that financial returns mostly from loans on real estate and equity are reinvested into more loans. So by savings he means retained earnings from the FIRE sector.

The financial sector grows and grows because all the interest is reinvested and so are the capital gains. Eventually this FIRE sector balloons to become a bigger and bigger piece of the total economy. It begins to dwarf the "real", e.g. non-financial economy.

Economists have usually assumed that loans would finance production, e.g. loans would be made to entrepreneurs to buy more equipment and increase production.

But in this FIRE-breathing economy, loans are made purely to acquire additional real estate and equities. So the "real" non-financial economy doesn't grow, but instead must sustain and bigger and bigger balance of interest due and payable.

Eventually this interest and interest on interest is so great in proportion to the "real" economy that it is unsustainable. Dr. Hudson alludes to deflation but doesn't spell out the aftermath except in labeling a "crash" in one of the diagrams.

Savings don't really enter into things here because by now savings are negative and smart people are distracted from bothering with the productive "real" economy due to the tempting enormous gains from the FIRE economy. Savings are stupid when there is this kind of money being made every day by lending and borrowing and M&A.

This whole thesis rings true in view of recent events. Homeowners getting rich because they were so clever to buy "more house" than they could afford is but one example. Dr. Hudson says that we were more or less saved from collapse by virtue of declining interest rates. Perhaps there is more cause than correlation here and the declining interest rates are due to the shrinking of "risk premiums". (Remember the warnings from Mr. Greenspan and various Davos bankers...risk premiums are liable to revert to the mean at any time.) Risk premiums shrink simply due to supply and demand -- an insatiable appetite for loans to invest in driven by the oversupply of ballooning amounts of FIRE credit seeking a return.

So what does it mean? What happens after the crash? Can a crash be averted by central banks stepping in and reinflating? Does the attempt by central banks to prevent collapse inevitably lead to hyperinflation and the death of the current fiat regime?

Stay tuned and thank you iTulip, Fred and Dr. Hudson for a remarkable piece.

WDCRob
02-05-07, 08:09 AM
And thanks for the summay/recap Grape.

Uncle Jack
02-05-07, 08:20 AM
My take on this extensive analysis is that there is no way out of the inevitable crash, reversion to mean.

That "financial crisis pattern" in Fig. 6 looks eerily similar to the kondratieff wave cycles that Ian Gordon and others have drawn. see here:

http://www.thelongwaveanalyst.ca/cycle.html

EJ
02-05-07, 08:58 AM
I'm grateful to Dr. Hudson for his contribution to our understanding of what Bill Gross of PIMCO refers to as the "finance-based economy." Dr. Hudson provides a coherent framework for understanding various observations made over the years here at iTulip, such as:

<small></small>The Big Bet (http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=608)

The Bubble Cycle is Replacing the Business Cycle (http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=360)

Risk Pollution (http://www.itulip.com/forums/../riskpollution.htm)

The Modern Depression (http://www.itulip.com/forums/../newdepression.htm)

I also recommend this Harper's article, The Road to Serfdom (pdf) (http://michael-hudson.com/articles/debt/Hudson,RoadToSerfdom.pdf).

On the topic of saving, it's a widely misunderstood concept, the verb "saving" is often confused with the noun "savings." I'm working on this week's Weekly Commentary, which addresses an aspect of the issue, as well as the likely outcome of the disparity between net savers and net debtors, which Dr. Hudson refers to as the creditor and debtor classes.

What is most important with respect to the outcome of the networth inequality that the finance economy has created, it seems to me, is the disparate results of saving, net worth, both liquid and illiquid. Without giving too much away, the chart below shows distribution of net worth in the U.S.

http://www.itulip.com/images/networth2.jpg

Note that half of U.S. households have next to zero liquid net worth, and the bottom 15 have a negative liquid net worth. Home equity extraction allowed some illiquid net worth to be converted into liquid dis-saving 2000 - 2006. There's been speculation here that the next target to keep households solvent is to eliminate taxes and early withdrawal penalties from Keogh and IRA accounts. The chart does show these savings as a logical next target. Also note–consistent with Dr. Hudson's thesis–that the 95th percentile "creditor class" has six times the liquid net worth of the 75 percentile. The mean is $46,000 in liquid net worth. In Japan, for example, that number is closer to $200,000, last time I checked.

I've speculated on iTulip over the years on how this net worth disparity might turn out if a finanical and economic crisis occured. Dr. Hudson talks about how debt forgiveness has since ancient times been the means by which peace between the creditor and debtor classes is restored in a crisis, and that societies which through their legal system did not permitted that to happen, the society eventually failed (he uses Rome as an example). To me, this whole debate about deflation or inflation is really an argument about the manner of future debt forgiveness, and it's really two questions: 1) what can central banks do? and 2) what are they in fact most likely to do? The first question is technical, the second political. The idea that the Fed cannot create inflation, I address through an examination of the work of Farrokh Langdana, Ph.D., Professor, Finance/Economics, Director, Rutgers Executive MBA Program. He has granted us permission to use a chapter "Long Term Interest Rates, the Yield Curve, and Hyperinflation" in his book "Macroeconomic Policy: Demystifying Monetary and Fiscal Policy" to help us understand the technical issues around deflation and inflation, which Dr. Hudson's research is not focused on. Then, once we establish what central banks can and can't do under circumstances of a collapse in the kind of debt pyramid that Dr. Hudson describes, we then look into what governments have done in response under various previous instances of such debt collapses as a matter of policy, that is, the political response.

Look for it later this week.

Jim Nickerson
02-05-07, 09:09 AM
My take on this extensive analysis is that there is no way out of the inevitable crash, reversion to mean.

That "financial crisis pattern" in Fig. 6 looks eerily similar to the kondratieff wave cycles that Ian Gordon and others have drawn. see here:

http://www.thelongwaveanalyst.ca/cycle.html

Uncle Jack,

Your "signature" invariably makes me laugh; it is a neat reiteration. You should read John Hussman's weekly comments posted today: http://hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc070205.htm titled It's All Fun and Games Until Someone Gets Hurt.

When I saw the title, I thought perhaps he had you as the guest commentator.

Sapiens
02-05-07, 10:03 AM
What I think Mr. Hudson is saying is that financial returns mostly from loans on real estate and equity are reinvested into more loans. So by savings he means retained earnings from the FIRE sector.

The financial sector grows and grows because all the interest is reinvested and so are the capital gains. Eventually this FIRE sector balloons to become a bigger and bigger piece of the total economy. It begins to dwarf the "real", e.g. non-financial economy.

But in this FIRE-breathing economy, loans are made purely to acquire additional real estate and equities. So the "real" non-financial economy doesn't grow, but instead must sustain and bigger and bigger balance of interest due and payable.

Eventually this interest and interest on interest is so great in proportion to the "real" economy that it is unsustainable. Mr. Hudson alludes to deflation but doesn't spell out the aftermath except in labeling a "crash" in one of the diagrams.



What Michel left out in the above piece was the exponential effect of fractional reserve banking under a fiat regime. Under the Gold standard there was a theoretical limit set to the max amount of gold reserves x the multiplier.

In the present case, we have the scenario where the lender can keep rolling the debt over until he owns the whole world or the debtor wises up and repudiates the debt.

-Sapiens

Uncle Jack
02-05-07, 10:10 AM
Jim,

Guest commentary for Hussman? Thanks for the compliment.

Perhaps I should change that "signature" to something like "You can't go back into the pool until 45 minutes after your PB&J sandwich digests because you could gets cramps and drown."

Jim Nickerson
02-05-07, 10:13 AM
Jim,

Guest commentary for Hussman? Thanks for the compliment.

Perhaps I should change that "signature" to something like "You can't go back into the pool until 45 minutes after your PB&J sandwich digests because you could gets cramps and drown."

You create the sense in me that we grew up in the same neighborhood, or are people today still telling their kids the same things that they did 55 years ago?

jk
02-05-07, 10:34 AM
ej, what are the missing components of total net worth? adding liquid assets, retirement plans and housing equity doesn't come near the total net worth figures. what else is included?

EJ
02-05-07, 10:48 AM
ej, what are the missing components of total net worth? adding liquid assets, retirement plans and housing equity doesn't come near the total net worth figures. what else is included?

NOTE: This table reports the distribution of liquid net worth, IRAs and Keoghs, housing equity, and total net worth in the HRS. All values are in 1992 dollars. Liquid net worth is the sum of checking and saving accounts, bonds, stocks, and other assets, minus short-term debt. Total net worth is the sum of liquid net worth, IRAs and Keoghs, housing equity, other real estate, business equity, and vehicles. The number of observations is 5,292. Figures are weighted using survey weights.

See http://www.jcpr.org/wpfiles/lusardi.wealth.tables.PDF

WDCRob
02-05-07, 11:11 AM
To my untrained eye this critique would seem to fit together pretty well with the previous discussion on the exponential growth rate of money, The End of Money (http://www.itulip.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6000&postcount=1).

It might also provide the framework for an answer to the question raised there re: the constraints on such a system? A: the point at which the 'real economy' can't sustain the debt payments.

EJ
02-05-07, 12:00 PM
My thoughts, exactly. Last night sent "The End of Money" to Dr. Hudson for his consideration... curious to see what he thinks. Will let you know if he has comments.

As we discussed in the End of Money thread, MZM = GDP does not represent a breaking point in the expansion whereas debt payments (DP) > income (Idp) to pay debt service does. One can expect that as DP approaches Idp, the propensity for debt markets to crash rises; some market participants, sensing a coming wave of defaults, will demand cash payment. If an event occurs near DP = Idp that causes Idp to rapidly decline, such as a recession, a "Ka" disinflationary crash may occur suddenly.

WDCRob
02-05-07, 12:40 PM
And Poom becomes, what? The nominal increase in Idp relative to a flat or falling DP (since no one's willing/can afford to take on additional debt)?

EJ
02-05-07, 01:26 PM
And Poom becomes, what? The nominal increase in Idp relative to a flat or falling DP (since no one's willing/can afford to take on additional debt)?

You take a five year Rip Van Winkle nap. You wake up in 2012 to find that the debt pyramid has indeed collapsed. Just to get you imagining possible future worlds, which do you think is the least bizzarre?

Median Home Price: $450,000 ($225,000 today)
Median Household Income: $80,000 ($40,000 today)
30-Year FR Mortgage: 19.5% (6.14%)
Discount Rate: 18% (5.5%)
CPI: 20% (3% today)
Oil: $200/bl
Imported Car: $80,000 (One year's median income)
Domestic Car: $40,000 (One half year's median income)
Cup of Starbucks Coffee: $6 ($3.00 today)

or

Median Home Price: $100,000 ($225,000 today)
Median Household Income: $30,000 ($40,000 today)
30-Year FR Mortgage: 0.5% (6.14%)
Discount Rate: 0% (5.5%)
CPI: -4% (3% today)
Oil: $100/bl
Imported Chinese Car: $80,000 - due to 50% tarriff (One year's median income)
Domestic Car: $40,000 (One year's median income)
Cup of Starbucks Coffee: N/A - out of business ($3.00 today)

WDCRob
02-05-07, 02:31 PM
Both look well beyond what I can imagine to be honest. But if I'm already in debt up to my eyeballs and am not particularly interested in taking on more, option A looks pretty good.

How do you get housing prices to double in five years when the average annual payments on a 30-year mortgage will represent 110% of the median income? 100 year mortgages?

Spartacus
02-05-07, 06:21 PM
few years.

On Dr. Hudson's site I found a PDF, "Road to Serfdom", that had this little gem.

>> people who thought they would be living the easy life of a
>> landlord

Having watched my Dad try to be a landlord for some time, I found this quite amusing.

Spartacus
02-05-07, 06:35 PM
Who didn't have fun with fireworks as a kid?

Come on, raise your hook hand.

You create the sense in me that we grew up in the same neighborhood, or are people today still telling their kids the same things that they did 55 years ago?

jk
02-05-07, 06:48 PM
CPI: 20% (3% today)



you don't mean the OFFICIAL cpi, do you?

Rajiv
02-05-07, 06:54 PM
Another paper by Michael Hudson would be of interest (!) here. "The Mathematical Economics of Compound Rates of Interest: A Four-Thousand Year Overview" <a href="http://www.michael-hudson.com/articles/debt/CompoundInterest1.html">Part I</a> and <a href="http://www.michael-hudson.com/articles/debt/CompoundInterest2.html">Part II</a>

The whole concept of the Time Value of Money is very troubling. While useful over a short period of time, it becomes extremely problematic over longer periods. Discount rates are extremely problematic for long term planning -- the net result of this lack of long term planning and hence well executed long term plans - leads to cyclic economic and ecological catastrophes. As my mentor and Professor would say "every day, we are eating our children, grand children, and their progeny" A rather gruesome vision, but a somewhat appropriate metaphor for the human race -- one that cannibalizes its future generations.

Rajiv
02-05-07, 07:09 PM
Another book people will find edifying, is <a href="http://www.margritkennedy.de/index.php?lang=EN">Margrit Kennedy's</a> book <a href="http://www.appropriate-economics.org/ebooks/kennedy/kennedy.htm">Interest and Inflation Free Money</a>

Quote:
Four Basic Misconceptions About Money

First Misconception

THERE IS ONLY ONE TYPE OF GROWTH

The first misconception relates to growth. We tend to believe that there is only one type of growth

Second Misconception

WE PAY INTEREST ONLY IF WE BORROW MONEY

A further reason why it is difficult for us to understand the full impact of the interest mechanism on our monetary system is that it works in a concealed way.

Third Misconception

IN THE PRESENT MONETARY SYSTEM WE ARE ALL EQUALLY AFFECTED BY INTEREST

A third misconception concerning our monetary system may be formulated as follows: Since everybody has to pay interest when borrowing money or buying goods and services, we are all equally well (or badly) off within our present monetary system.


Fourth Misconception

INFLATION IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF FREE MARKET ECONOMIES

A fourth misconception relates to the role of inflation in our economic system. Most people see inflation as an integral part of any money system, almost "natural," since there is no capitalist country in the world with a free market economy without inflation.

DemonD
02-05-07, 08:28 PM
I did read that whole thing and my head was hurting (had to take breaks to get my head around it). Dr. Hudson is certainly a great analyst, but like many academians, his writing style is filled with words that are meant to purposefully confuse the reader. I did feel like I got the message though (and i thank grape jelly for the translation and the follow up chart EJ - it helped clarify a lot).

The only thing I'm wondering as was posted is what Dr. Hudson thinks will happen and when... as in are either of these scenarios possible and if so which will be the one to happen:


Median Home Price: $450,000 ($225,000 today)
Median Household Income: $80,000 ($40,000 today)
30-Year FR Mortgage: 19.5% (6.14%)
Discount Rate: 18% (5.5%)
CPI: 20% (3% today)
Oil: $200/bl
Imported Car: $80,000 (One year's median income)
Domestic Car: $40,000 (One half year's median income)
Cup of Starbucks Coffee: $6 ($3.00 today)

or

Median Home Price: $100,000 ($225,000 today)
Median Household Income: $30,000 ($40,000 today)
30-Year FR Mortgage: 0.5% (6.14%)
Discount Rate: 0% (5.5%)
CPI: -4% (3% today)
Oil: $100/bl
Imported Chinese Car: $80,000 - due to 50% tarriff (One year's median income)
Domestic Car: $40,000 (One year's median income)
Cup of Starbucks Coffee: N/A - out of business ($3.00 today)

I have to go with the first is most likely, if for no other reason than Starbucks HAVE to be around. But I can't see home prices being that much, if for no other reason than there are currently 2.1 million vacant homes with an estimated 1.2-1.6 at or nearing completion.

Both oil numbers look very achievable though. I would put the inflated oil at probably closer to 300/bl, especially if you are assuming that gold will be 2500-3000/oz.

What I'm wondering is what will trigger the Ka movement when it comes? A couple of my coworkers (who also timed the tech boom pretty well) have told me they have put their 401k's into the stable income fund and out of stocks already. The more I read I can't tell if I'm getting more paranoid, getting more bearish, or too squeamish, or if the Ka is coming very soon.

Jim Nickerson
02-05-07, 10:30 PM
You take a five year Rip Van Winkle nap. You wake up in 2012 to find that the debt pyramid has indeed collapsed. Just to get you imagining possible future worlds, which do you think is the least bizzarre?

Median Home Price: $450,000 ($225,000 today)
Median Household Income: $80,000 ($40,000 today)
30-Year FR Mortgage: 19.5% (6.14%)
Discount Rate: 18% (5.5%)
CPI: 20% (3% today)
Oil: $200/bl
Imported Car: $80,000 (One year's median income)
Domestic Car: $40,000 (One half year's median income)
Cup of Starbucks Coffee: $6 ($3.00 today)

or

Median Home Price: $100,000 ($225,000 today)
Median Household Income: $30,000 ($40,000 today)
30-Year FR Mortgage: 0.5% (6.14%)
Discount Rate: 0% (5.5%)
CPI: -4% (3% today)
Oil: $100/bl
Imported Chinese Car: $80,000 - due to 50% tarriff (One year's median income)
Domestic Car: $40,000 (One year's median income)
Cup of Starbucks Coffee: N/A - out of business ($3.00 today)

EJ asked which is the least "bizarre."? I don't get bizarre. I would have liked the questions: Which is more likely? or Which would you prefer to have to live through?

The first "future world" is to me the worst, though it ain't exactly Zimbabwe. It seems, and remember I know diddle about economics, to me the first would have to continue to be associated with lots of liquidity, which seems to be the problem with where we are now-- which I perceive as a mess. Isn't it going to have to end somewhere? I think, yes. Wouldn't sooner be better? I think the sooner, the better.

The second "future world" would come closer to achieving what I think this country needs, if effect, a very hard slap of the face--for those who can go along with corporal punishment. The second seems to me to be more like Japan since 1990, and I don't see where the Japanese populace has devolved into penury or anarchy, though I haven't lived through it as a Jap. I was there for a few days in 1997, and it was a very civil place.

I think I had rather 2012 resemble the second scenario.


I have to go with the first is most likely, if for no other reason than Starbucks HAVE to be around.


Starbucks! Bah, humbug.

akrowne
02-05-07, 10:50 PM
Just skimmed it, but what a great overview! In particular, the charts of how exponential credit growth short-circuits the natural business cycle, creating severe booms and busts, are extremely apropos -- I've been thinking of something like this and am glad to see someone has drawn it up.

Thanks, Michael!

Spartacus
02-05-07, 11:53 PM
Median Home Price: $450,000 ($225,000 today)

good so far

Median Household Income: $80,000 ($40,000 today)

This is the biggie, the thing that Greenspan and Bernanke apparently agree on - wages CANNOT be allowed to rise.
So keep all the other numbers the same, but cut this by at least 30%.


EDIT - Eric, why do feel this increased income is necessary? The current asset inflation has happened without large income gains.

Rajiv
02-06-07, 07:11 AM
I agree with you on this. The second scenario would be a bitter pill to swallow, but society could be rebuilt from there. I don't see that happening in the first scenario. The first scenario is a train wreck, with the train still going at a 200 mph (the inflation/liquidity trap!)

grapejelly
02-06-07, 07:29 AM
scenario 1 bails out the debtors while scenario 2 favors creditors. I think the US government will do everything in their power to prevent scenario 2 because of what it would do to government debt.

OTOH scenario 2 would save the US$.

Are we too far along scenario 1 to even entertain scenario 2? The "Greenspan put" policy continues and it would have to stop. Is there a political will for the extremely unpleasant results?

Moreover, the US is in a perpetual state of "war" which inevitably means more inflation, not less. Congress would have to raise taxes to untenable levels or slash spending in the extreme, to replace the financing that is provided by inflation.

This guessing is what keeps the game exciting, is all I can say :D

Rajiv
02-06-07, 08:08 AM
You may also find this interview with Danny Schechter interesting. <a href="http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/interviews/052">Danny Schechter Dissects America's Credit Card Culture.</a>

FRED
02-06-07, 09:09 AM
few years.

On Dr. Hudson's site I found a PDF, "Road to Serfdom", that had this little gem.

>> people who thought they would be living the easy life of a
>> landlord

Having watched my Dad try to be a landlord for some time, I found this quite amusing.

Hudson says there's no money in being a landlord (in rents) anymore. It's all about breaking even on cash flow (rents versus operating expenses) and counting on capital gains from depreciation and sales to make "rental" property worth owning. This explains the mystery of commercial buildings that you see all over the U.S. that sit empty for years on end with "For Lease" signs on them. Owners get to depreciate them over and over, and property owners get to flip them back and forth among each other, banking the capital gains profits at low tax rates.

Jim Nickerson
02-06-07, 09:11 AM
You may also find this interview with Danny Schechter interesting. Danny Schechter Dissects America's Credit Card Culture. (http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/interviews/052)

I thought this reference just replays what is currently known: the public is stupid, the banks are leaches, the politicians are useless.

Pervilis Spurius
02-06-07, 12:08 PM
This is another great and thought provoking piece. Well done Itulip for bringing this to the board!

Now, allow me to weigh in with full gravity of my stature as a newly minted "Special Member" of itulip.;) (I guess 20 posts is enough to make one "special", a true meritocracy.)


Hudson articulates very well the observation that debt growth is more or less a pure exponential function, and it is the debt growth that will always outstrip the growth of the economy to pay back the debt because the economy is cyclical.

However, if you "zoom out" and look at economic growth over a long period of time, say 100yrs or more, the growth of the economy also has an exponential character to it. This growth in a normal free market economy is tamed however by the "sinusoidal" nature of the business cycle. So, economic growth is an exponential with a sinusoid superimposed. Consequently, the debt growth function is also tamed in a normal free market economy.

I also skimmed Rajiv's link to Hudson's article about interest rates in the ancient world. He points out the same exponential-debt-growth/outstrip-ability-to-pay problem there as well.

However, my critique of Hudson's description of this interest bearing debt system is that in the regimes he describes, (modern, ancient Near East, etc.) interest rates are set by something other than the "free market". In Babylonian/Sumerian times the interest rates were set by cultural custom. Today the Fed sets rates on the short end and in effect the "Prime Rate".

It is my contention that the "inflexibility" of these interest rate setting mechanisms exaggerates the problems of this inconsistency between debt and economic growth. I realize I'm not saying anything new, just that this observation has not been made in this thread.

Of course the new bankruptcy laws don't help the inconsistency either.

c1ue
02-06-07, 01:56 PM
The second "future world" would come closer to achieving what I think this country needs, if effect, a very hard slap of the face--for those who can go along with corporal punishment. The second seems to me to be more like Japan since 1990, and I don't see where the Japanese populace has devolved into penury or anarchy, though I haven't lived through it as a Jap.

Couple of notes I would posit concerning Japan's 13 year downturn with what would happen were a similar scenario to occur in the US:

1) Japan was the first major economy to go into the dumps; first one in first one out? Or at the very least, Japan has clearly been able to retain more intrinsic manufacturing capability than the US and thus has some trade counterbalance.

2) Japanese on average save tons of money - they are socially very afraid of being poor and not 'pulling their own weight' in society.

3) Japanese government and Japanese companies feel a very strong force to maintain everyday employment and stability. Even after the Japanese big corporations had to lay people off, I would almost guarantee that the sum numbers of layoffs in total up to now is probably fractions of what US companies are doing every year. In my own industry - semiconductors - I can only think of less than 30000 layoffs in total, whereas Sun and IBM have had individual layoffs larger than that.

Thus in sum Japan is probably not a good example to see where US society would evolve into should scenario 2) occur.

I'd personally lean more toward the labor vs. management struggles in the IWW (worker's of the world) era.

Spartacus
02-06-07, 02:13 PM
Scenario 1 is actually good for the banks - their balance sheets will be showing renewed, massive amounts of new loans.

Remember that financial statements are not inflation adjusted.

Bank profits would be incredibly high.

Scenario 1 is of course very, very, very bad for people on fixed incomes.

scenario 1 bails out the debtors while scenario 2 favors creditors. I think the US government will do everything in their power to prevent scenario 2 because of what it would do to government debt.

Uncle Jack
02-06-07, 04:11 PM
You take a five year Rip Van Winkle nap. You wake up in 2012 to find that the debt pyramid has indeed collapsed. Just to get you imagining possible future worlds, which do you think is the least bizarre?

My guess for least bizarre is option A, inflation with tariffs. The main reason I say that is because of the political and social mood of the herd who will not mind nor notice that they are less well off as long as they can sell for higher prices. Deflation, though it may be needed to cleanse the system, so to speak, will have people rioting outside the White House regardless of who occupies it.

In either scenario it appears that you EJ are siding with Jim Rogers and the secular commodity bull. $200/bl in option A and $100/bl in option B are both higher than today's prices while everything else looks like an either/or for inflation/deflation combined with some import tariffs.

Spartacus
02-06-07, 04:49 PM
tax structure and shopping malls - if you want to skip most of the article, search for tax on that page.

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/040315fa_fact1?040315fa_fact1

Can one pinpoint ONE factor here, or "the system".

If one specific thing had not taken place in the past - if Capital gains were taxed equally to earned income, or if real estate was not allowed to be depreciated, would all this be avoided?

Or would money find another way to increase itself?

I think Nasser Saber would argue that these specific things are one manifestation - Speculative Capital seeks return, and seeks to have laws re-written in its own favor. These specific laws that Dr. Hudson cites are just the specific things that have fallen out in this case - in other cases, different laws would still lead to the same end (real estate bubble).

Rick Ackerman
02-07-07, 10:53 AM
What a relief it is to know that there is an economist in this world other than Kurt Richebacher with the cajones to say where all of this asset price inflation is leading -- i.e., to a DEBT DEFLATION! Thank you, Dr. Hudson, for explaining exactly why the "reverse magic" of compounding interest charges will not permit a hyperinflationary solution for the world's debt problems. Creditors above all will be greatly relieved to know that their seven-year fight to swing the U.S. bankrputcy code egregiously in their favor will not have been in vain.:mad:

EJ
02-07-07, 11:34 AM
What a relief it is to know that there is an economist in this world other than Kurt Richebacher with the cajones to say where all of this asset price inflation is leading -- i.e., to a DEBT DEFLATION! Thank you, Dr. Hudson, for explaining exactly why the "reverse magic" of compounding interest charges will not permit a hyperinflationary solution for the world's debt problems. Creditors above all will be greatly relieved to know that their seven-year fight to swing the U.S. bankrputcy code egregiously in their favor will not have been in vain.:mad:
No so fast, Rick! Listen to all he has to say (http://www.michael-hudson.com/audio/061208HudsonRealEstates.mp3) and you'll find two distinct cross-currents: 1) debt-deflation resulting from a collapse of the finance economy and 2) currency inflation, due to the the massive depreciation of the dollar. Gives you this...

http://www.itulip.com/images/MHF6.jpg

...plus this...

http://www.itulip.com/images/KaPoom2006Q.gif

So when are you and I doing the podcast debate we discussed? I'm game. Is the iTulip community interested? Go to the top of this thead to vote.

WDCRob
02-07-07, 02:03 PM
Whether it's him or not, it would be great to hear an equally articulate and convincing heavyweight argue in favor of deflationary outcomes.

EJ
02-07-07, 02:54 PM
Whether it's him or not, it would be great to hear an equally articulate and convincing heavyweight argue in favor of deflationary outcomes.

It's the real Rick. We're working out the mechanical details of the debate.

jk
02-10-07, 02:21 PM
Going into debt to buy assets with borrowed funds experienced a quantum leap in the 1980s with the practice of financing leveraged buyouts with high-interest “junk” bonds. The process got underway when interest rates were still hovering near their all-time high of 20 percent in late 1980 and early 1981. Corporate raiding was led by the investment banking house of Drexel Burnham and its law firm, Skadden Arps. Their predatory activities required a loosening of America’s racketeering (RICO) laws to make it legal to borrow funds to take over companies and repay creditors by emptying out their corporate treasuries and “overfunded” pension plans. New York’s laws of fraudulent conveyance also had to be modified.
essentially the same thing is happening now with private equity. the targets are companies that can be levered up to pay "special dividends" to the purchasers.

The new cdo-based funding of subprime loans is very reminiscent of the junk bond boom of the ‘80s. Milken sold his junk on the basis of the historical performance of low-rated bonds. But in the past such bonds were “fallen angels” – the credits of formerly successful companies which had run into some trouble and been down-graded. It turned out this was a very different population than Milken’s coterie of never-to-be successful companies which were junk from the word “go.” CDO’s are chopped up pieces of subprime loans put together into diversified packages in which the diversification supposedly makes up for the poor quality of the underlying loans. Again, it is already turning out that the historical data is no guide – the new sub-prime paper is much poorer quality, and the diversification is an illusion. Diversification might have worked if we were not dealing with a national phenonomenon of jacked up prices combined with poor underwriting standards, but of course that is just what we are dealing with.

so if milken's junk debacle led to the s&l crisis, where exactly is the just-ignited cdo dirigible taking us?

jk
02-10-07, 03:33 PM
I just found the time to carefully read hudson’s piece. I think the main weakness in its arguments is in its decision to ignore globalization. Some brief extracts and my comments follow:



Nearly all new fixed capital formation is financed out of retained business earnings, not out of bank borrowing. Banks finance sales, foreign trade, consumer debt and the purchase of property already in place, but hardly ever have they taken the risk of financing new direct investment. Their time horizon is short-term, not long-term.
- DISINTERMEDIATION was a phenonomenon of the 80s, with corporations going directly to the bond market instead of the banks.

As the economy’s assets are loaded down with debt and its interest charges, this credit growth extracts interest payments that divert revenue away from current demand for goods and services. That is why asset-price inflation usually involves debt deflation. The deflationary effect may be mitigated by lowering interest rates, as occurred in the United States during 1994-2004. The debt/savings overhead can rise without extracting a higher flow of interest payments as interest rates approach their nadir (about 1 percent today).
-?TIME TO ADD BACK NON-FINANCIALLY MOTIVATED FOREIGN CB’S? seems to me you’ve got to address the issue of huge bond purchases by non-profit-motivated cb’s here.


Today the net savings rate has fallen to zero, and the major factor impairing effective demand is the diversion of revenue to service the economy’s debt overhead. Paying interest and principal reduces the disposable income that debtors have available to spend on goods and services, while the financial institutions that receive this revenue do not spend it on goods and services. They lend out their receipts to enable the buyers to purchase assets that already exist. WHAT ABOUT HOUSING? WHEN BORROWERS BUY HOUSES, FURNITURE, PLASMA SCREENS, ETC, THEY ARE BUYING GOODS. We need to see some numbers about how much actually loaned to acquire pre-existing assets versus new assets.

Today’s problem of inadequate consumer demand and capital investment lies on the liabilities (debt) side of the balance sheet, not on the asset (saving) side. WHAT ABOUT THE SAVINGS IN ASIA? HOW CAN YOU DO THIS KIND OF ANALYSIS IN A GLOBALIZED ECONOMY? Also, there is plenty of industrial investment going on in the world, just not so much in the u.s.

Keynes did not devote much attention to the accrual of interest on past savings. His General Theory was ambiguous with regard to the specific forms that savings might take. They were identified simply as investment, so that on the macroeconomic plane, S = I. The implication by many Keynesians today is that savings actually cause investment. The reality is that savings not invested directly in new means of production were invested indirectly in stocks, bonds and real estate. Investment in securities and property already in existence had no positive employment effects.
IN THIS AND IN OTHER PASSAGES, HUDSON SEEMS TO THINK MONEY DISAPPEARS WHEN IT IS USED TO PURCHASE AN EXISTING ASSET. WHAT DOES THE SELLER OF THE ASSET DO WITH HIS NEW PILE OF CASH? WHY ISN’T THAT EXAMINED? THIS ALSO APPLIES TO THE MONEY CREATED VIA NEW LOANS TO ASSET-PURCHASERS. FOR EVERY ASSET PURCHASER THERE IS AN ASSET LIQUIDATOR WHO ENDS UP WITH A PILE OF CASH. WHAT IS SAM ZELL, HAVING SOLD EQUITY OFFICE PROPERTIES, GOING TO DO WITH HIS NEWLY LIQUIFIED BILLIONS? PUT IT UNDER HIS MATTRESS?

Not being limited by the course of income or the ability to pay, the exponential growth of savings tends to exceed growth of the real economy. This is what occurs when economies are loaded down with debts, which could equally well be thought of as the savings overhead that is lent out. Rising savings on the asset side of the balance sheet connote a rising debt overhead on the liabilities side. In this case saving does not necessarily reflect an increase of productive powers and the means of production, nor does it tend to employ labor. Rather, the debt service that results from lending out savings tends to shrink markets and employment.
EXTEND THIS TO THE GLOBAL ECONOMY, HOWEVER. CHINESE SAVINGS ARE RECYCLED INTO U.S. CONSUMPTION, BUT INVESTMENT IN PRODUCTIVE CAPACITY [IN CHINA] IS GROWING QUITE NICELY, AS IS CHINESE EMPLOYMENT

This growth of savings and loanable funds in the hands of financial institutions is lent out mainly to buy property in place and financial securities, not to fund tangible capital formation. AGAIN, THERE IS A SELLER AS WELL AS A BUYER. THE SELLER NOW HAS FUNDS FOR SOME USE OR OTHER.


The problem occurs when current income no longer can carry the interest charges. The financial sector absorbs more income as debt service than it supplies in the form of new credit. Asset prices turn down – but the debts remain on the books. This has been Japan’s condition since its bubble peaked in 1990. It may result in “negative equity” for the most highly leveraged mortgage borrowers in the real estate sector, followed by debt-ridden companies.
.pushing on a string? The financial sector will absorb more as income than it supplies as new credit only if no one wants to borrow. That point doesn’t seem to be in sight. Also bernanke has said that the fed will, if necessary, monetize via the direct purchase of assets, putting cash into the hands of individuals and institutions.

grapejelly
02-10-07, 03:52 PM
I wish you'd elaborate on your argument more as I think I'm missing your point and I'd like to understand it.

But I'll try here to comment on what I think you are saying and why I don't think it's valid.

Look at US homeowners who have borrowed to buy "too much house" go to jobs in the "services" sector and use their debt-backed money to consume goods paid to China...

Total debt levels in the US keep increasing at a rate faster than the underlying economy. This is a longterm trend in the US, going back to perhaps 1990. If you want to look back longer you can go back all the way to 1933 when the gold backing was removed from the dollar. Every dollar printed from then on was backed by debt.

Dr. Hudson says interest received is plowed back into more loans and more loans rather than being distributed into the "real" economy. So the loans balloon.

That seems to describe what I see happening.

He says that the underlying "real" economy becomes dwarfed by this "FIRE" monster and then collapses.

I think if anything the counter argument to what he is saying is devaluation of the currency happening faster than earnings accrual to the FIRE sector. We are seeing this in the form of negative real interest rates in the US and much of the Western world. US treasurys pay 4.8% today while the money supply grows at 12% (M3 approximated by www.nowandfutures.com (http://www.nowandfutures.com)) This makes the real debt levels less...

Dr. Hudson says that the solution is massive defaults or loan forgiveness which he says is inevitable.

But with enough inflation, I am not sure this is true. Even today's beleagured homeowners may be fine if they simply wait for high inflation to increase their wages and raise the nominal values of their homes. This may be in fact what happens rather than a "housing crash" and it may be true of all other debts and assets as well.

Eventually the negative real rate of return earned by the financial sector will remove the attractiveness of FIRE speculation and return that sector to its historical position as a percentage of GDP.

jk
02-11-07, 05:53 AM
grape, i didn't really have an "argument" so much as a series of comments about missing pieces in hudson's analysis.
trying to summarize my comments, however, i'd say that:

1. i question analyzing the u.s. economy as a closed system when the phenomena he describes are totally dependent on flows to and from the rest of the world. these flows are the flows of goods being consumed as imports and the flow of money recycled into dollar based financial instruments. the latter, of course, serves to hold down u.s. interest rates, which fosters all the credit he discusses.

2. there's plenty of growth in productive capacity and there are enormous increases in productive employment, just not in the u.s.

the fire sector is growing as part of the u.s. economy but it is not clear it's growing as part of the global economy. does it matter, then? if we say, for example, that the fire sector dominates lower manhattan does that prove anything? and if not, is it important if it dominates the u.s. economy?

i actually do think a lot of what hudson delineates is important and scary. the simplest way i summarize his argument is by looking at the growth of debt versus gdp. i think that it currently takes about 5 dollars of debt growth to get 1 dollar of gdp growth. the ratio of debt to gdp growth has itself been rising steadily. if interest rates were 20%, for example, 5 dollars of debt to 1 of gdp would be checkmate- the whole of the gdp growth would be required to pay the interest on the corresponding debt. of course interest rates are lower than that, but that's the idea, isn't it?

getting back to the globalization issue, i think this process is serving as a pump, pumping productive growth to the developing world, while we in this particular part of the developed world stagnate economically. there are some bizarre side effects of this process, i know, side effects which will cause some problems, but viewed from afar i'm not sure it's a bad thing for humanity.

this is all part of a transition from a u.s.-centric world.

c1ue
02-11-07, 03:25 PM
Grapejelly,

While inflation will help all those who have debt, it will equally destroy all those who have credit but who either don't have enough to diversify offshore and/or don't know any better.

From my personal recollection of my parent's situation in the '80's, even that relatively low (10%+) inflation made life pretty damn difficult.

A look at Mexico, Argentina, Russia, and any number of other examples also shows that hyperinflation does NOT help the overall populace.

The difference between here and these other countries? A huge amount of US societal infrastructure is based on income and/or property taxes. This is not the same as with any of these other examples where most of various forms of government income are trade, corporate tax, or national industry related.

A hyperinflationary cycle in the US could mean a complete collapse of public schools, local government, likely many of the state governments, and a lot of business relying on these institutions and/or re-channeled salaries.

Various of these items happened in the above examples.

In turn, the failure of many local banks and possibly some of the larger institutions could have interesting possibilities.

Instead of a situation such as Russia - where the government owned all land and thus could distribute free housing to whoever was occupying the domicile, there could be a reverse situation where either the quasi-governmental entities such as Fannie Mae, or large banks wind up owning a significant chunk of the property here.

It could be a redux of the Great Depression in terms of property changing hands from the many to the few.

Rick Ackerman
02-12-07, 09:18 AM
"i actually do think a lot of what hudson delineates is important and scary. the simplest way i summarize his argument is by looking at the growth of debt versus gdp. i think that it currently takes about 5 dollars of debt growth to get 1 dollar of gdp growth. the ratio of debt to gdp growth has itself been rising steadily. if interest rates were 20%, for example, 5 dollars of debt to 1 of gdp would be checkmate- the whole of the gdp growth would be required to pay the interest on the corresponding debt. of course interest rates are lower than that, but that's the idea, isn't it?"

***

Recent data (per Richebacher) suggest that it is taking closer to $10 of borrowing these days to produce that marginal dollar of GDP growth. In any event, it is the real, not nominal, rate of interest that matters. If, say, mortgage rates were at 6.5% at a time when home values were falling by 10%, THAT would be checkmate, since it would subject tens of millions of homeowners to implied real rates of 16.5%. Come to think of it, isn't that about where we are right now?

grapejelly
02-12-07, 12:17 PM
"i actually do think a lot of what hudson delineates is important and scary. the simplest way i summarize his argument is by looking at the growth of debt versus gdp. i think that it currently takes about 5 dollars of debt growth to get 1 dollar of gdp growth. the ratio of debt to gdp growth has itself been rising steadily. if interest rates were 20%, for example, 5 dollars of debt to 1 of gdp would be checkmate- the whole of the gdp growth would be required to pay the interest on the corresponding debt. of course interest rates are lower than that, but that's the idea, isn't it?"

***

Recent data (per Richebacher) suggest that it is taking closer to $10 of borrowing these days to produce that marginal dollar of GDP growth. In any event, it is the real, not nominal, rate of interest that matters. If, say, mortgage rates were at 6.5% at a time when home values were falling by 10%, THAT would be checkmate, since it would subject tens of millions of homeowners to implied real rates of 16.5%. Come to think of it, isn't that about where we are right now?

It is, but asset inflation can do an awful lot to make this nominally better, can't it?

In the UK it looked like housing peaked about 2 - 3 years ago as I recall, but housing started to appreciate again. Isn't it possible that re-inflation will begin raising wages and goods prices and houses will stop losing value?

The $10 of borrowing could become $20 of borrowing, couldn't it?

Is there some limit to this, really? Maybe there is but maybe we're a lot further away from it than we think.

I don't really believe this, but I am trying to see it this way as an exercise.

Rick Ackerman
02-12-07, 12:31 PM
It is, but asset inflation can do an awful lot to make this nominally better, can't it?

In the UK it looked like housing peaked about 2 - 3 years ago as I recall, but housing started to appreciate again. Isn't it possible that re-inflation will begin raising wages and goods prices and houses will stop losing value?

The $10 of borrowing could become $20 of borrowing, couldn't it?

Is there some limit to this, really? Maybe there is but maybe we're a lot further away from it than we think.

I don't really believe this, but I am trying to see it this way as an exercise


I'm not going to say it will be impossible to rekindle the housing boom, but I should think it would take quite a bit more stimulus than five years ago, when housing-boom mentality was just a segue away from dot-com mania.

Think of a weightlifter trying to pump 300 pounds above his head. If he should stall and the barbell actually starts to come down on him, it will be MUCH harder to reverse the direction than if the upward motion continued more or less smoothly.

Also, even if we are able to heat up the housing market one more time -- I mean, really heat it up, so that cash-out re-fi's are going ganbusters once again -- where will that take us? To the point where we are even more $trillions in debt, and having to borrow $20 to create a $1's GDP growth? Consider how much borrowing it has already taken merely to generate the weakest recovery of the postwar period.

jk
02-12-07, 08:28 PM
marc faber this month published a graph titled "the diminishing impact of debt growth on the economy, 1966-2015," from data by b bannister of stifel nocolaus. it shows the growth of nominal gdp per $1 increase in total u.s. debt, which looks like a wiggly curve heading down in general. there is a trend line, and the trend line hits zero in 2015. the implication here is that by approx 2015 increasing debt will not be able to cause a rise in nominal gdp. checkmate.

flow5
05-02-07, 06:24 AM
The utilization of commercial bank credit to finance real investment or government deficits does not constitute a utilization of savings, since bank financing is accomplished through the creation of new money.

From the standpoint of the commercial banks, the monetary savings practices of the public are reflected in the velocity of their deposits and not in their volume. Whether the public saves or dissaves, chooses to hold their savings in the commercial banks or to transfer them to intermediary institutions will not, per se, alter the total assets or liabilities of the commercial banks nor alter the forms of these assets an liabilities.

The means-of-payment velocity of time/savings deposits is zero and the funds are lost to investment, to consumption, and indeed to any type of payment. Such a cessation of the circuit income and transactions velocity of funds, funds which constitute a prior cost of production, cannot but have deleterious effects in our highly interdependent pecuniary economy (it created the phenomenon STAGFLATION).

The much larger question with which we should be concerned, therefore, is the raison d'etre of an institutional arrangement whose benefits to the banks are dubious and which undoubtedly exerts deletereious effects on the financial interemdiaries and the economy.

In the Keynesian system S = I by definition, and in the national income accounts, S=I + (G - T). However, such definitions have little to contribute to dynamic monetary analysis. An expansion of commercial bank held monetary savings deposits is prima facie evidence of a leakage which collects in the form of unspent balances.