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FRED
03-23-09, 08:29 AM
http://www.itulip.com/images/deathsalesman.jpgDeath of a Salesman by Economic Depression

by Jane Burns – iTulip.com

Raymond Mohr, known as Raymo to his friends, crossed over last summer. His was a relatively young death--early 50s.

The son of a CIA man who himself declined such employment after graduating from American University where he pitched baseball, a huge fan of Springsteen and The Police, a lanky fellow with strawberry blond hair and direct hazel eyes, Raymo had a heart attack as a complication of diabetes.

But for my money, it was the economy that killed Raymo--an early casualty of the crashed economy, our Great Depression 2.0.

Yes, we all die eventually. But death by bad economy that was set up to fail by government and Wall Street oligarchs who had to know the consequences for working Americans? This enrages more than I can say; if my anger at them were electricity, it could power the planet.

Raymo, who'd been in the television home entertainment system and Custom installation business for decades in suburban Washington, D.C., had most recently been part-owner of a retail mini-chain. He would, say, beat Circuit City's price by $100, and sell customers on the home installation. He was the kind of guy that wealthy (and snooty) Washingtonians could feel comfortable having in their homes.

He worked six days a week in the store, at least, and was always
Available on his cell phone if needed. And when Raymo wasn’t working, he was tending the flock of rescue animals he'd assembled on a little farm in Maryland.

Raymo was the kind of guy who would literally transport a roach
outside rather than kill it. He took it really hard when, in order to stop a barn invasion by rats that had gnawed a fatal hole in the belly of a beloved rescue pig, he finally donned night goggles and massacred the vermin.

Raymo had diabetes for a number of years, but didn't seem to do much About it. He didn't appear to take insulin shots or pills and, like many hard-working American men, lived on a diet of mostly meats andstarches.

He didn't eat breakfast, smoked tons of Marlboros, and drank lots of coffee.

Raymo also had a modern man's appreciation of recreational drug use. As things turned out, this ease with drugs eventually led to the death of a man proud to be a salesman.

When the diabetes started causing great and constant pain in his lower extremities at around the same time sales started falling earlier lastyear, even at his location in Bethesda, Md., which is like the Beverly Hills of suburban Washington. Raymo found a dealer who could deliver massive quantities of pharmaceutical pain-killers. They allowed him to keep up his schedule.

Yes, avoiding doctors is, for many men, typical self-destructive
behavior. Still, Raymo told me that if he started getting treatment, it would keep him out of the store. And he couldn't depend on employees to close sales as he could. Accustomed to being the boss, he desperately wanted to keep the store open.

But Raymo, long a smooth salesman, started losing it behind the pills.

He got into an extended argument with a female customer. He almost passed out afterwards, he told me. He had a weird altercation in a parking garage. By summer, the store was drawing sadists, blood-smelling customers who angered Raymo, always a fair and often generous guy, by demanding impossibly low prices.

Then Raymo got into it with the majority owner of the mini-chain—and suddenly he was out. Briefly shocked, he quickly accepted the change as provident. He could collect unemployment benefits and rental income, if the tenant ever started paying. There was an offer of part-time work in a stronger, competing chain coming in the fall. And he finally had the time and willingness to deal with his diabetes.

But right after Raymo started going in for care, we talked about his doctors and it didn't sound good. He was having too many arguments with them. I got the vibe that the doctors, without telling him, were trying to buy him time while hoping for a miracle. And Raymo said his former partner was stalling on paying him money owed--he was waiting out Raymo's death, I feared.

I went west for a few weeks in August and we stayed in touch by phone. The last time we spoke, Raymo said he was going to have to take insulin shots--not an easy thing for a man's man, or anyone, for that matter, but he sounded okay with it.

Then Raymo didn't return a call. Raymo always returned calls. I
figured he was either off on vacation with a new girlfriend, in a coma, or dead.

Back in town, I reached Levon, the young Russian political asylum student and salesman whom Raymo had mentored in the store, treated to $150 rock concert seats and generally man-counseled. Yes, Levon said heavily, Raymo was dead--heart attack, at home, alone.

I drive by the store frequently. I miss you, Raymo! I say aloud in the car. His last voice message on my answering machine? Can't delete it. He was trying so hard to sound positive, as he knew any good salesman must.

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Master Shake
03-23-09, 08:49 AM
"But for my money, it was the economy that killed Raymo--an early casualty of the crashed economy, our Great Depression 2.0."

Raymo had diabetes for a number of years, but didn't seem to do much About it. He didn't appear to take insulin shots or pills and, like many hard-working American men, lived on a diet of mostly meats andstarches.

He didn't eat breakfast, smoked tons of Marlboros, and drank lots of coffee.

Raymo also had a modern man's appreciation of recreational drug use. As things turned out, this ease with drugs eventually led to the death of a man proud to be a salesman.

For my money, it was lifestyle choices.

ax
03-23-09, 09:04 AM
"But for my money, it was the economy that killed Raymo--an early casualty of the crashed economy, our Great Depression 2.0."

Raymo had diabetes for a number of years, but didn't seem to do much About it. He didn't appear to take insulin shots or pills and, like many hard-working American men, lived on a diet of mostly meats andstarches.

He didn't eat breakfast, smoked tons of Marlboros, and drank lots of coffee.

Raymo also had a modern man's appreciation of recreational drug use. As things turned out, this ease with drugs eventually led to the death of a man proud to be a salesman.

For my money, it was lifestyle choices.

Yeah, heavy smoking, diabetes, and narcotic abuse don't help you stick around long.

we_are_toast
03-23-09, 09:15 AM
The tip of a growing iceberg.



Side note;
I see a photo credit with this article. You have many powerful images with your pieces, I wish you would give photo credit to all of them.

flintlock
03-23-09, 09:38 AM
Yeah, I'm not really seeing the connection to the economy either.

But being self-employed, I understand the reluctance to miss work with health problems and how it catches up on you.

FRED
03-23-09, 09:40 AM
The tip of a growing iceberg.



Side note;
I see a photo credit with this article. You have many powerful images with your pieces, I wish you would give photo credit to all of them.

We always do when there is one to give.

jk
03-23-09, 10:37 AM
unfortunately, the same economy which pressured him so much towards the end, was also the economy that underwrote his "success" selling home electronics. and it was the american culture - much more broadly than just the economy- that told him he was a "man's man" for being something of a workaholic and making the lifestyle choices he made.

maybe being a successful salesman requires high levels of denial.

Lukester
03-23-09, 01:04 PM
Fabulous short tribute / article from Jane Burns. Thanks! Lots of unvarnished style tucked away in here (the best kind), and lends some style also to the man who's just passed away.

We always do when there is one to give.

hayekvindicated
03-23-09, 03:18 PM
Sad.

On a slightly related but different issue, pointless workaholism never made sense to me. Some people I guess don't have a choice and have to grind it out because there's no alternative.

As a non-American, I've always been fascinated by the American "obsession" with work - the hard driving, 6 days a week working men and women who consider it almost decadent for someone to opt for a life of less working hours and better lifestyle. In London, I've run into countless bankers, lawyers, traders, marketers and accountants etc. - they were almost all workaholics (compared to me certainly).

In that respect I'm a decadent European. I was for five years in a law firm surrounded by workaholic hard charging men and women - and I copped out, doing the bare minimum needed to stay put but with no ambition of making it to "the top" of the corporate ladder. In hindsight, it paid off. I worked a lot less hours, had little stress and enjoyed life in London and also saved money - never got into the "competing with the Joneses" nonsense of buying worthless expensive junk which forms part of the leveraged lifestyle. Now, most of the hard chargers - the corporate M&A lawyers, the securitisation, acquisition finance and capital markets lawyers find that five years of selling your soul to the devil is not enough to make management retain you when the economy tanks. So they spent their time and their money when the economy was good and now find themselves with large debts through overpriced houses and no job as law firms cull enormous numbers of people in the City.

There's more to life than work and money. We work to live not vice versa.

brucec42
03-23-09, 04:15 PM
Sad.

On a slightly related but different issue, pointless workaholism never made sense to me. Some people I guess don't have a choice and have to grind it out because there's no alternative.

As a non-American, I've always been fascinated by the American "obsession" with work - the hard driving, 6 days a week working men and women who consider it almost decadent for someone to opt for a life of less working hours and better lifestyle. In London, I've run into countless bankers, lawyers, traders, marketers and accountants etc. - they were almost all workaholics (compared to me certainly).

In that respect I'm a decadent European. I was for five years in a law firm surrounded by workaholic hard charging men and women - and I copped out, doing the bare minimum needed to stay put but with no ambition of making it to "the top" of the corporate ladder. In hindsight, it paid off. I worked a lot less hours, had little stress and enjoyed life in London and also saved money - never got into the "competing with the Joneses" nonsense of buying worthless expensive junk which forms part of the leveraged lifestyle. Now, most of the hard chargers - the corporate M&A lawyers, the securitisation, acquisition finance and capital markets lawyers find that five years of selling your soul to the devil is not enough to make management retain you when the economy tanks. So they spent their time and their money when the economy was good and now find themselves with large debts through overpriced houses and no job as law firms cull enormous numbers of people in the City.

There's more to life than work and money. We work to live not vice versa.

I think it is the American thing to value money too highly. This guy may have been great, but from the column I can't see much worthy of any particular praise or "tribute". Work too much, choose a field that is highly dependent on good times, selling people stuff they don't really need, playing games with pricing (undercutting big box stores requires selling at a loss) to then stick it to customers on the installs to make it up (whatever happened to being straightforward?). Abuse drugs, neglect your treatable health condition, resent customers who know the market and want the market price, not what it used to be, etc.

Not seeing the point of this really.

metalman
03-23-09, 07:40 PM
I think it is the American thing to value money too highly. This guy may have been great, but from the column I can't see much worthy of any particular praise or "tribute". Work too much, choose a field that is highly dependent on good times, selling people stuff they don't really need, playing games with pricing (undercutting big box stores requires selling at a loss) to then stick it to customers on the installs to make it up (whatever happened to being straightforward?). Abuse drugs, neglect your treatable health condition, resent customers who know the market and want the market price, not what it used to be, etc.

Not seeing the point of this really.

had the same reaction at first. then i thought, how'd he find himself in this place? if you go waaaay back you'd find a kid with parents with bad judgment.

i'm convinced bad judgment is hereditary... not genetic, but it runs in families!

how about your parents? good judgment or bad? i'm going to bet good.

Basil
03-23-09, 09:13 PM
It seems to me that there are some people who have been pushed into corners not of their own doing in the course of this economic downturn, but that Raymo's death was very much of his own doing. This guy did not take care of himself, not at all. No breakfast, lots of Marlboro's, not treating a chronic condition, etc.—what does any of this have to do with the economy? The way it is here presented, nothing really. I hate to sound heartless, but if anything the moral here is don't overwork yourself, don't smoke, eat breakfast and treat any medical conditions you may have in good times and bad. My apologies if this seems offensive to anyone.

metalman
03-23-09, 09:21 PM
It seems to me that there are some people who have been pushed into corners not of their own doing in the course of this economic downturn, but that Raymo's death was very much of his own doing. This guy did not take care of himself, not at all. No breakfast, lots of Marlboro's, not treating a chronic condition, etc.—what does any of this have to do with the economy? The way it is here presented, nothing really. I hate to sound heartless, but if anything the moral here is don't overwork yourself, don't smoke, eat breakfast and treat any medical conditions you may have in good times and bad. My apologies if this seems offensive to anyone.

hard to feel compassion for the guys, ain't it? contempt comes easier.

DaveBrown42
03-23-09, 09:40 PM
It's not quite fair to blame the FIRE Economy for killing this man, as others here have already noted. Still, seeing your professional life crumble at the same time your health is failing is a pretty lousy way to spend your last few months on this earth. My sympathies go out to the author as well as Raymo's family.

BrianL
03-24-09, 12:57 AM
I admire the sentiment, but I think many Americans have distanced themselves from simple pleasures that the experiences and luxuries money buys are now the driving pleasure in peoples lives.

I'm probably just reflecting a personal bitterness and wariness on the rest of the world. At the same time, I'm willing to bet many people are in the same position I'm in; moved to take a job out of state/country, no family or friends in the area, enough of a workaholic to fail in making a decent connection with someone. Socializing in the US means sharing something - a common interest, a hobby, religion, etc. And all of those take money in some form. Throw in a desire for security and you've built a nice workaholic.

As a society, we've lost value in manual work. I can only speak to the last decade on personal experiences, but society shifted to value entrepreneurs and white collar jobs. If you aren't in one of those positions, society says you're expendable as there is someone else over seas willing do do the job for less.

Again, I can't speak to more traditional work, but knowledge based jobs are continuous. It is a permanent race to stay ahead of the next guy, as it isn't resources, connections or experience that differentiates you. It is what you'll deliver tomorrow. Stand still for a year or two and you've lost your edge.

I'd love to check out. I'd love to walk away from it all and do something more creative that I enjoy. Produce something real. But the practicality is that my value to society is totally tied to my occupation. The only way out is to save enough that I can slow down some how.

Master Shake
03-24-09, 05:27 AM
hard to feel compassion for the guys, ain't it? contempt comes easier.

One can feel compassion, but don't try to blame a death due to poor choices on the economy. Not that there are not people suffering due to this economic clusterfuck (sounds better than "crisis"), but the author apparently doesn't know any of them personally, so she's trying to fit Raymo into that model. He doesn't fit. Nicely written though.

Basil
03-24-09, 06:37 AM
hard to feel compassion for the guys, ain't it? contempt comes easier.

I have no contempt for him whatsoever. I am just trying to be objective, which certainly does not rule out compassion. My own father passed away early because he did not take care of himself at all, physically or financially. I took a year out of my life to care for him towards the end and felt compassion and empathy the whole way through. But objectively speaking, his condition was, in large part, of his own doing. The same for Raymo, may he rest in peace.

metalman
03-24-09, 06:48 AM
I have no contempt for him whatsoever. I am just trying to be objective, which certainly does not rule out compassion. My own father passed away early because he did not take care of himself at all, physically or financially. I took a year out of my life to care for him towards the end and felt compassion and empathy the whole way through. But objectively speaking, his condition was, in large part, of his own doing. The same for Raymo, may he rest in peace.

fair enough. the question is, why are some people better at others at taking care of themselves?

cjppjc
03-24-09, 07:25 AM
fair enough. the question is, why are some people better at others at taking care of themselves?


Now there is a good question. In fact any question that begins with why are some people....

Master Shake
03-24-09, 07:42 AM
fair enough. the question is, why are some people better at others at taking care of themselves?

No simple answer to that question. I would say that it's a combination of heredity, environment, experience, and chance.

Retired Commish
03-24-09, 10:40 AM
But for my money, it was the economy that killed Raymo--an early casualty of the crashed economy, our Great Depression 2.0.

Except for the diabetes in the hand Raymo was dealt, he pretty much wrote his own script. Apparently he was a compasionate individual who disregarded any thoughtful concern about his own daily living habits and the dangerous buildup of effects that would eventually kill him. What can the man's living teach us? Perhaps we should align our quest for more and more success with the economic cycle and recognise that slowing down is part of the game, instead of doubling one's effort as the pie is shrinking.

chr5648
03-24-09, 06:04 PM
One of my favorite quotes

"By working faithfully eight hours a day, you may get to be a boss and work twelve hours a day." - Robert Frost

flintlock
03-24-09, 07:45 PM
fair enough. the question is, why are some people better at others at taking care of themselves?

Upbringing probably does have the most to do with it. People who grew up with parents who had good habits like eating right and exercising tend to keep on doing it. And there's a certain machismo some men have in ignoring health problems. A lot of it is really just fear, as I suspect was this guy's real problem with getting help.

But there's probably plenty of better examples of people being killed by the economy than this guy. People who had to drop health insurance, afraid to miss work for fear of losing their job, that kind of thing. Healthcare is a disaster in the US. Just a mess. This economy is going to cause insurance rates to blow through the roof as more and more people just give up and drop it. Some will drop it because they have to. Others, because they got so used to spending every dime on toys that they can't bear to pay a few thousand bucks more a year for a high deductible plan. Which of course makes the rest of us pay yet even more!

Real life example: The mother of one of my daughter's friends told my wife they had dropped their health insurance because " They were not getting anything out of it"!! In other words, they had the same $10,000 deductible plan I have because he's a self employed IT guy, and they were paying most expenses out of pocket until they hit the deductible. I asked my wife why they didn't consider selling his CORVETTE to pay for heath insurance!! That would buy at least 3 years of coverage. Then recently, my daughter was invited to go to the mall for the kid's birthday party. Must be nice. :mad:

cjppjc
03-24-09, 08:17 PM
Upbringing probably does have the most to do with it.



Mastershake has said:

No simple answer to that question. I would say that it's a combination of heredity, environment, experience, and chance.





I think this is very close to the truth.