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Tet
01-08-07, 10:34 AM
“Sources allege that the CIA prints the falsified 'Supernotes' at a secret facility near Washington to fund covert operations without Congressional oversight.”

The American secret service, the CIA, could be responsible for manufacturing the nearly-perfect counterfeit 50 and 100-dollar-notes that Washington pins on the terror regime of North Korea. The charge comes after an extensive investigation in Europe and Asia by the Sunday edition of the Frankfurter Allgemeinen Sonntagszeitung of Frankfurt, and after interviews with counterfeit money experts and leading representatives of the high-security publishing industry.
The U.S.-dollar forgeries designated "Supernotes," which are so good that even specialists are unable to distinguish them from genuine notes, have circulated for almost two decades without a reliable identification of the culprits. Because of their extraordinary quality, experts assume that some country must be behind the enterprise.

The administration of George W. Bush officially accused Pyongyang of the deed in the autumn of 2005, derailing Six-Party Talks on Pyongyang's nuclear weapons program. Since then, tensions on the Korean Peninsula have increased considerably. America charges that North Korea is financing its rocket and nuclear weapons program with the counterfeit "Supernotes."

North Korea is one of the world's poorest nations and lacks the technological capability to produce notes of such high quality. According to the Frankfurter Allgemeinen Sonntagszeitung, North Korea is at present unable to even produce the won [the North Korean currency]. The sources, which do not wish to be identified, allege that the CIA prints the falsified "Supernotes" at a secret facility near Washington to fund covert operations without Congressional oversight.

Translated By Armin Broeggelwirth

http://www.watchingamerica.com/frankfurterallgemeine000008.shtml

Printing them is one thing, getting them into circulation is a completely different matter. History tells us it's always the Bank of England that counterfeits US bank notes, it was the Brits who counterfeited the Continental and it was the Brits who counterfeited the Greenback during the War Between the States. The US had to come up with the Secret Service in the 1860's to deal with Brit counterfeiting, almost every other Greenback was counterfeit after the war.

DemonD
01-10-07, 04:41 AM
Tet, do you have any opinions on this? This seems very plausible to me; not that the CIA would go out and buy houses for themselves here in the US, but that they would use these counterfeit bills to acquire intelligence resources in foreign lands (i.e. buy informants, hire mercenaries/commandos, fund militias of whatever group washington is backing in south america, etc). This would also be less domestically damaging and much more easy to pull off than the CIA's connection with cocaine and los angeles gangs.

fwiw, the cia scares the crap out of me, not only for the power it wields, but the video that was put up before about the former cia agent who wrote a column and had it censored by the white house, he noted that there was a huge lack of spinal fortitude and ethics within the intelligence community. without strong ethics, an intelligence officer becomes solely a tool for politicians to have excuses to do whatever the hell they want, and that apparently is what the cia has become today.

Tet
01-10-07, 07:39 AM
Tet, do you have any opinions on this? This seems very plausible to me; not that the CIA would go out and buy houses for themselves here in the US, but that they would use these counterfeit bills to acquire intelligence resources in foreign lands (i.e. buy informants, hire mercenaries/commandos, fund militias of whatever group washington is backing in south america, etc). This would also be less domestically damaging and much more easy to pull off than the CIA's connection with cocaine and los angeles gangs.

fwiw, the cia scares the crap out of me, not only for the power it wields, but the video that was put up before about the former cia agent who wrote a column and had it censored by the white house, he noted that there was a huge lack of spinal fortitude and ethics within the intelligence community. without strong ethics, an intelligence officer becomes solely a tool for politicians to have excuses to do whatever the hell they want, and that apparently is what the cia has become today.

Who is the message for, it was claimed to have been written by German experts. With this said the message clearly isn't meant for you and me. The imperial coin of the realm always worked by taxing other states and this tax was always in the form of inflation to those states it was targeted against. In the last few years the d0llar going from 120 on the index to 85 on the index today was a severe form of taxation to the rest of the world.

What one needs to realize is the only way the rest of the world can avoid this taxation is to raise the value of the d0llar, everything the rest of the world, Brazil, Russia, India and China (BRIC nations) plus South Korea and South Africa does is geared to try and make the Buck stronger. To put it in perspective we took just last year $800 billion more in goods and services than we gave back to the world through our trade deficit.

The IMF/usury, oil/gas sold in d0llars and illegal drugs are the biggest props to the d0llar making it weaker. The rest of the world has managed to do what it can to fight these props. IMF loans have gone from $80 billion to $10 billion. Illegal drugs are being legalized, ie coca in Peru. The world is doing everything possible to get oil to market selling in alternate currencies, what's occuring in Belarus today, pipelines to China.

This article is targeted at the nations of the world trying to make the d0llar stronger, it simply states no matter what you the rest of the world does, the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England can at anytime resort to counterfeiting the imperial coin to make it weaker. One should ask the question, whose side does North Korea really serve in all of this. Saying the source of the counterfeiting is North Korea/CIA makes a lot of sense when you understand just whose interests North Korea really serves.

I hope this helps

DemonD
01-12-07, 02:28 PM
Tet, I'm really not good at interpreting "read between-the-lines" analysis. I live in a black and white world, so answering a question with a question does not help me at all. I can read your reply one way and think, "Looks like North Korea is the puppet of China and Non-UK Euro countries." Or, I can read it like, "The CIA owns Kim Jong-Il and is secretly supporting him and he is their puppet." Or it can be something completely inbetween.

All I asked was your opinion on do you believe the CIA is counterfeiting US dollars. If you start with a simple statement "I agree with this article that the CIA is counterfeiting dollars, and here's why..." that would make it clear. Anything less clear than that will not be of any utility to me.

Tet
01-12-07, 02:53 PM
Nope, I don't believe the CIA is counterfeiting d0llars, I do though believe the CIA is threatening to do so if ever the need arises.

DemonD
01-12-07, 02:58 PM
Now that makes a lot of sense, and in that one sentence you answered about 50 different questions and thoughts. Thanks Tet. :)