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tsetsefly
12-16-08, 02:39 PM
Fed slashes key rate to near zero

Ben Bernanke & Co. cite weakness in economy and reduced inflation threat as justification for cutting rates below 1% for first time.


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- In its latest effort to try and stimulate the U.S. economy, the Federal Reserve cut its key interest rate to a range of between zero percent and 0.25%.
The central bank typically sets a specific target for its federal funds rate instead of a range. The rate had previously been at 1%. Most investors were expecting the Fed to cut rates to either 0.25% or 0.5%
In a statement, the Fed said the U.S. economy, which has officially been in a recession for a year, was in in danger of getting weaker, and that the risk of inflation had decreased "appreciably." Earlier Tuesday, the Labor Department reported that the Consumer Price Index (http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/16/news/economy/cpi/index.htm?postversion=2008121610), its key inflation measure, fell by a record 1.7% in November.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/16/news/economy/fed_decision/index.htm?postversion=2008121614

Reduced threat of inflation????

How long will they keep this rate is what I am wondering...

Mega
12-16-08, 02:43 PM
Till O-Be comes in and Ben goes!
Mike

GRG55
12-16-08, 02:55 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/16/news/economy/fed_decision/index.htm?postversion=2008121614

Reduced threat of inflation????

How long will they keep this rate is what I am wondering...

We should start a poll FRED.

< 5 years;
5 - 10 years;
10 - 15 years;
> 15 years...
As Finster said, I feel like I'm Japanese...

metalman
12-16-08, 03:28 PM
We should start a poll FRED.

< 5 years;
5 - 10 years;
10 - 15 years;
> 15 years...

As Finster said, I feel like I'm Japanese...

no friggin way the usa deflates debt japan-style. that ain't how we operate.

Tulpen
12-16-08, 03:32 PM
This whole FED action is totally meaningless.

Long TBT $39.75

we_are_toast
12-16-08, 03:38 PM
This whole FED action is totally meaningless.

Long TBT $39.75

The Fed is waving the white flag on interest rates, signaling it's reaching into it's bag of tricks.

Jumped the gun:
Long TBT $40.63

phirang
12-16-08, 03:53 PM
There's much easier money to be made out there than trading t-notes...

tsetsefly
12-16-08, 04:11 PM
The Fed is waving the white flag on interest rates, signaling it's reaching into it's bag of tricks.

Jumped the gun:
Long TBT $40.63
what is funny is how investors have reacted with the dollar falling today, its not like this was a surprise move or the fed was not hell bent on causing inflation before this move...

GRG55
12-16-08, 11:18 PM
no friggin way the usa deflates debt japan-style. that ain't how we operate.

Oh ya, I forgot. The instant gratification society. That means it'll be over quick. Real quick. None of that slow and deliberate Geisha tea ceremony stuff in the U.S. of eh. Eh? :)

pwcmba
12-16-08, 11:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb5Ii0iIcXo

the video of our lives.

Chris
12-17-08, 03:33 AM
Long bond futures (March contract) are screaming up to 139 this morning. How long can this continue? (Why does this continue?) :confused:

Sapiens
12-17-08, 03:44 AM
Borrowing long from Japan is now so passé.

we_are_toast
12-17-08, 09:29 AM
What happens to money market funds? Won't some of them go negative?
Who's going to keep their money in a fund where you get less than 0% due to fees? Where's this money going to go?

grapejelly
12-17-08, 09:38 AM
What happens to money market funds? Won't some of them go negative?
Who's going to keep their money in a fund where you get less than 0% due to fees? Where's this money going to go?

they will go negative and won't a lot of folks pull their money? And that could mean a run on MM accounts? I discussed this possibility in another thread (http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6740) and I think it is serious. No way can massive assets be liquidated from MM funds at the same time...and this is a real possibility.

skurla2000
12-17-08, 11:15 AM
Long bond futures (March contract) are screaming up to 139 this morning. How long can this continue? (Why does this continue?) :confused:

My theory is that T-Bills are a bubble. It's now self-reinforcing due to the word getting out that you can make great money in the worlds "safest" investment...

People are seeing their t-bond portfolios values "pop" 10, 20, 30% in the last two months when everything else is tanking hard! Last chance to save your retirement...

Who wants in? Everyone! Bubble!