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Jim Nickerson
09-13-08, 07:29 PM
As a starting place, Luke, I'll use your most recent post which I believe is similar in meaning to a number of others in which you apparently cannot get others to agree to your point of view.

Finster I must take it that one or two of your assertions are piffle, as you don't care to answer them in the simplest way, at every opportunity.

The affectation of disdainful silence does not communicate much of import, so much as it communicates helplessness. You have a grand unifying theory of the monetary aspect of all commodities. I have asked, at various occasions during the past year, that you clarify a simple point - if the rise of the entire CRB index is all a mirage caused by a shrinking USD unit of account, why are those who sell these commodities reaping such apparently vast real and incremented purchasing power? You have opaquely pointed to "dissertations", or better yet and more vaguely, to entire threads, leaving it up to your interlocutor to "divine" where in that thicket of convoluted arguments you intended them to locate your presumably concise, pithy answer.

When asked, "yes, but what is the short, simple version", you are mute, and you have remained artfully mute through multiple previous opportunities to clarify this same point. That's OK actually, it is your prerogative not to reply. But don't then go around reiterating your grand unifying thesis of the monetarily derived illusion of rising commodity prices. You are not prepared to reply to simple questions validating it, with simple clear answers, so please then desist from propounding the theory, as you cannot clearly explain it's holes and large contradictions. I don't put the questions forward contentiously at all. What I don't react to quite as graciously however, is the glib, dismissive silence with which such simple and pertinent questions are greeted.

I'll relate a personal experience and perhaps you can benefit from it.

Twenty-five years ago in dealing a specific problem in the world of oral and maxillofacial surgery, I came up an extensive thesis that proved to cast much light on the area of contention; however, it was written in Dutch. That was the bad news. The good news was the author had had the thesis translated into English, but it had not been published and disseminated in English. The thesis was already 15 years old. What it contained rearranged most of what I thought about the problem.

I was nobody in the circle of shakers and movers in my professional societies.

I sent a copy of the original Dutch thesis which contained many pertinent pictures of patients faces and x-rays of their jaw joints and the English translation to every major academician who had the potential abilitity to more widely disseminate the information than I possibly could. Over several years this went no where. The information in the thesis basically continued to be useless to everyone in the United States who had interest in these problems, and it had ramifications in general dentistry, orthodontics, and of course oral surgery.

Finally I said, "Fuck it, and those who have their head up their asses." I went to the university and found the time and support to write several papers and get them published in several widely read journals and textbooks.

It finally had dawned upon me that I was only responsible for my own understanding and actions based on those understandings as it influenced my treatment of my patients. If others wished to ignore what was the most profound study of the problem up until what was then the present time, that was their business. It was not my problem. I put down what appeared to be the best information in light of the Dutch thesis, published it, and quit worrying about it.

Within my abilities to tolerate your writing style, I seriously wish you would take the time in this thread or any others you wish to begin, and simply write down what you believe is the correct case about any area of investing that you think is important and that you think your assessment is more valid than others. Tell it like it is as you see it. And after purging yourself in this manner, I do believe it would make your life easier. Remember how many times you have suggested things I should do with my life or how I live it?

I hope you will do it. Perhaps many of us will benefit.

Lukester
09-13-08, 08:29 PM
And after purging yourself in this manner, I do believe it would make your life easier. I hope you will do it. Perhaps many of us will benefit.

Tell you what Jim. Spend three months taking the first few halting steps to learning how to be unfailingly courteous to me at all times, and maybe I'll consider engaging you in a discussion? I know that's a tall order for you, but why don't you give it your best shot? That means absolutely no blurting out of "GRUMPY JIM's" weekly spittle-quota of jaundice or bile. When you have an urgent need to sick up some more of your habitual spleen and bile, pick some other iTulip stalwart to try it out on for size, and give Lukester a rest. 'Kay? Maybe this other public spirited iTuliper will consent meekly to your droning around them like a horsefly, but Lukester is tired of listening to Jimster bilious spittle. 'Kay? :D Remember, no bother Lukee for three months-ee, then Lukee (maybe) talkee "Grumpy Jim" again. 'Kay?

Jim Nickerson
09-13-08, 08:40 PM
Tell you what Jim. Spend three months taking the first few halting steps to learning how to be unfailingly courteous to me at all times, and maybe I'll consider engaging you in a discussion? I know that's a tall order for you, but why don't you give it your best shot? That means absolutely no blurting out of "GRUMPY JIM's" weekly spittle-quota of jaundice or bile. When you have an urgent need to sick up some more of your habitual spleen and bile, pick some other iTulip stalwart to try it out on for size, and give Lukester a rest. 'Kay? Maybe this other public spirited iTuliper will consent meekly to your droning around them like a horsefly, but Lukester is tired of listening to Jimster bilious spittle. 'Kay? :D Remember, no bother Lukee for three months-ee, then Lukee (maybe) talkee "Grumpy Jim" again. 'Kay?

Done, the clock's running. December 13, 2008. You put down what you think about everything in investing where you see the likely truth of the matter, and let it go, unless your remarks draw discussion on your thread.

Edit: Luke, it should not make a lot of difference, how about we pick the date of December 7th: A date which will live in infamy.;)

Lukester
09-13-08, 09:25 PM
No Jim - You misread my post. Give it three months without any of your botherance, and I'll consent to further talk to you. Then we can discuss whatever it is you have on your mind. 'Kay?

Jim Nickerson
09-13-08, 09:38 PM
No Jim - You misread my post. Give it three months without any of your botherance, and I'll consent to further talk to you. Then we can discuss whatever it is you have on your mind. 'Kay?

No, I can go three months without making any comment on anything you write, but the suggestion was as I put forth, and obviously you are not up to taking what I think was good advice. There is nothing to discuss. I put forth a suggestion. You are certainly free to reject it. Good luck.