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Mega
07-06-08, 02:19 PM
http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2008/07/05/medvedev-pre-g8-interview-set-ruble-denominted-oil-trade.html

What is Russia up to??????
Mike

FRED
07-06-08, 04:34 PM
http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2008/07/05/medvedev-pre-g8-interview-set-ruble-denominted-oil-trade.html

What is Russia up to??????
Mike

Larouche = Zero credibility.

Sapiens
07-06-08, 08:19 PM
Larouche = Zero credibility.

Why Zero credibility? He makes very valid points and observations methinks...

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metalman
07-06-08, 08:46 PM
Why Zero credibility? He makes very valid points and observations methinks...

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'cause he's a crazy old crank, that's why.

Sapiens
07-06-08, 09:11 PM
'cause he's a crazy old crank, that's why.

Crazy as a fox; now go back to sleep.

Lukester
07-07-08, 12:08 AM
Larouche = Zero credibility.

I LOVE LYNDON LAROUCHE - HE'S MY HERO!! :rolleyes:

metalman
07-07-08, 06:25 AM
Crazy as a fox; now go back to sleep.

wikipedia does a good job with larouche...

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche) wikipedia:
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche)
The views of Lyndon LaRouche cover a wide variety of topics including history, economics, politics, cultural issues, and various conspiracy theories. They are the source of much controversy, his critics and supporters often have difficulty agreeing on the meaning of statements he has made. This is complicated by the fact that LaRouche's views have changed considerably over time, particularly during the 1970s when he abandoned much of his Marxist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism) philosophy, and moved towards the right (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_wing).<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-0">[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-0)</sup>
While his followers see LaRouche's views as being those of a brilliant and original thinker, his critics see them as conspiratorial (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory) and anti-semitic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-semitic).<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-1">[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-1)</sup><sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-2">[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-2)</sup><sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference">[/URL]</sup>

on the surface, a reasonable dude...

The LaRouche network has issued statements on a number of controversial issues:


They have called for a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_moratorium"]moratorium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-2) on Third World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World) debt.
They have opposed the so-called counterculture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterculture), and the legalization of recreational drugs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_drugs), arguing that these create a "bread and circuses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses)"<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-4">[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-4)</sup> culture of self-centered hedonism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonism), and a highly manipulable population. LaRouche calls for a revival of classical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classics) culture, particularly in the domain of public education (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_education). This is a view that the NCLC and descendent LaRouche organizations have held consistently since their beginnings in the late 1960s.
They have supported nuclear energy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_energy) and other complex technologies often opposed by the environmentalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmentalism) movement, arguing that human survival depends on a progression of technologies. (see LaRouche on Economics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#Economics).)
They have called for the banning of HMOs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_maintenance_organization), and LaRouche has formally endorsed H.R. 676, the Expanded and Improved Medicare for All Act of 2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanded_and_Improved_Medicare_for_All_Act_of_2005 ) or National Health Insurance Act .<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-5">[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-5)</sup>
They believe that the idea of man-made global warming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming) is a "fraud", and have referred to the Oscar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award)-winning documentary film An Inconvenient Truth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Inconvenient_Truth) as "the Great Luddite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite) Hoax."<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-6">[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-6)</sup> Larouche proposes an alternate theory for the global climate change saying "The Crab Nebula emits cosmic rays which have significant effect on developments in the earth's atmosphere." [9] (http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/2007/webcasts/3411mar7_opener.html) LaRouche has endorsed the British TV documentary, The Great Global Warming Swindle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle).
They defended President Bill Clinton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton) during his impeachment scandal, claiming that those who called for Clinton's resignation or impeachment following the Monica Lewinsky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Lewinsky) scandal were hiding their true motives.
They opposed the 1991 Gulf War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War) and the 2003 invasion of Iraq (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq) and supported Argentina in the 1982 Falklands/Malvinas war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falklands_War), arguing that under the Monroe Doctrine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe_Doctrine), the United States was obliged to oppose European colonies in the Western Hemisphere.
They opposed, from 1979 onwards, the deregulation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deregulation) of trucking, airlines, telecommunications, public utilities, and financial services in the U.S., during a period when deregulation was embraced by the leadership of both the Democratic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29) and Republican (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_%28United_States%29) parties.
They oppose the United Nations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations) and other international organizations, particularly the International Monetary Fund (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Monetary_Fund) and World Bank (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Bank), in cases where LaRouche says they interfere with the concept of the Westphalian state (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Westphalia) and the Platonic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato) ideal of a "perfectly sovereign nation-state republic".<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-7">[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-7)</sup> This holds especially true for their conduct toward the nations of the Third World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World), and LaRouche further argues that this conduct represents neo-colonialism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-colonialism).

on closer inspection...

LaRouche has asserted that he is a target for assassination (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination). He sued the City of New York in 1974, saying that CIA and British spies had brainwashed his associates into killing him.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-64">[65] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-64)</sup> In leaflets supporting his application of concealed weapons permits for his bodyguards in Leesburg, Virginia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leesburg%2C_Virginia), he wrote: I have a major personal security problem…[Without the permits] the assassination teams of professional mercenaries now being trained in Canada and along the Mexico border may be expected to start arriving on the streets of Leesburg…If they come, there will be many people dead or mutilated within as short an interval as 60 seconds of fire."<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-65">[66] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-65)</sup>
According to the Patriot-News of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, LaRouche says he has been "threatened by Communists, Zionists, narcotics gangsters, the Rockefellers and international terrorists."<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-66">[67] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-66)</sup> LaRouche made a speech in 1983, stating that, Since late 1973, I have been repeatedly the target of serious assassination threats and my wife has been three times the target of attempted assassination…My enemies are the circles of McGeorge Bundy, Henry Kissinger, Soviet President Yuri Andropov, W. Averell Harriman, certain powerful bankers, and the Socialist and Nazi Internationals, as well as international drug traffickers, Colonel Gadaffi, Ayatollah Khomaini and the Malthusian lobby."<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-67">[68] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-67)</sup>
Regarding LaRouche's paramilitary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramilitary) security force, armed with semi-automatic weapons,<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-68">[69] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-68)</sup> a spokesperson said that they were necessary because LaRouche was the subject of "assassination conspiracies".<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-69">[70] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-69)</sup> LaRouche testified 1986 that "I have been 'safe-housed' by friends and associates in many different places because of threats to my physical security".<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-70">[71] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-70)</sup> Later that same year his "heavily fortified"<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-71">[72] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-71)</sup> estate was surrounded by law enforcement officers during a search of his offices. While surrounded, LaRouche sent a telegraph to President Ronald Reagan saying that an attempt to arrest him "would be an attempt to kill me. I will not submit passively to such an arrest, but . . . I will defend myself."<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-72">[73] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-72)</sup> During the subsequent federal trial he was driven to court in an armored limousine, and a bodyguard accompanied him into the courtroom, while another guard stood outside the door. When convicted he predicted that he would be assassinated in prison. A cellmate, televangelist Jim Bakker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bakker), later wrote, "To say that Lyndon was slightly paranoid would be like saying the Titanic had a bit of a leak."<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-73">[74] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-73)</sup>
In his 1988 autobiography, LaRouche says the raid on his operation was the work of Raisa Gorbachev (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raisa_Gorbachev), whom he describes as outranking her husband Soviet premier Mikhail Gorbachev (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Gorbachev) in the nomenklatura (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomenklatura) due to her leadership of the Soviet Cultural Fund.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-74">[75] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-74)</sup> LaRouche asserted in 2004 that the assassination of Swedish Prime Minister Olaf Palme (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaf_Palme) was "used, and therefore probably intended, to set into motion an environment for what would later pass as a 'justified, retaliatory'" killing of LaRouche."<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-75">[76] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-75)</sup> In an interview the same year, he said that the Soviet Union opposed him because he invented the Strategic Defense Initiative (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative). "The Soviet government hated me for it. Gorbachev also hated my guts and called for my assassination and imprisonment and so forth." LaRouche asserted that he has survived these threats because of protection by unnamed U.S. government officials. "Even when they don't like me, they consider me a national asset, and they don't like to have their national assets killed."<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-76">[77] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Lyndon_LaRouche#cite_note-76)</sup>

as i said, smart but crazy.

c1ue
07-07-08, 12:57 PM
Larouche = whacko-a-mole

Russia setting up a ruble denominated oil trading platform is perfectly reasonable given Russia doesn't want to either be shackled (as the Gulf nations are) with dollar pegs nor wants it largest trading partner, the EU, to attain world reserve currency status.

Having an economy still largely commodity based in a world with rising commodity prices - no reason not to try and get the ruble some possibility of future free riding with the Russian economy still at the crest of the wave.

Mega
07-09-08, 01:52 PM
Yep, Lydon ROCKS!
Mike

metalman
07-09-08, 07:53 PM
Yep, Lydon ROCKS!
Mike

you mean lyndon? if you're going to follow a nut like larouche, you need to learn to spell his name right.